Climate scientists are urging
action in response to climate
change.
And one way that they're helping
people visualize just how
devastating climate changes is.
Is there noting that there are nine
major cities around the globe that
could be
underwater as soon as 2030.
Not in the year
3000 not 50 years from now.
>> Mm-hm.
>> In the year 2030 and we're
not talking about some small island
nation that you've never heard of,
which we should still care about.
But most people unfortunately
don't, we're talking about major
cities by 2030.
>> Yeah.
>> Let's start with Europe,
well, first,
let me give you some more details.
Okay, because this is what we're
hearing a lot can change between
now and 2030.
Of course, we could build flood
defenses, adapt our cities and
ideally take dramatic
action to halt global warming.
But none of that happens,
which is a likely scenario here
are the potential consequences.
Nine cities that could find
themselves entirely or in large
part underwater within a decade.
They begin with Amsterdam and
the cities of Rotterdam and
the Hague sit low,
flat and close to the North sea.
The dutch are famed for
their flood defenses and looking
at the sea level projections.
It seems the country's system of
dikes, dams, barriers, levees and
floodgates will become even
more essential in the years to
come, okay?
>> Yeah. >> So
this is their way of saying, look,
you guys have been pretty great in
mitigating the damage that's being
caused by climate change.
Mitigating the flooding that's
being exacerbated by climate
change, you're going to have to
keep that going.
In fact, you got to
accelerate that.
>> Mm-hm. >> Or
else you're not going to be able to
live in this area because most of
it will be underwater.
But there's more, let me give you
one more example and
you can jump in John.
We've got Iraq's main seaport city
of Basra lies on the shot al-Arab
an enormous and wide river that
feeds into the Persian gulf.
Due to its intricate network of
canals and streams as well as
the neighboring marshland.
Basra and its surrounding areas
are especially vulnerable to a rise
in sea levels.
And as if that wasn't
worrying enough,
Basra already suffers significantly
from waterborne diseases.
So increased flooding carries even
more significant threats.
And of course there are some
American cities on this list as
well, which we'll get to in just
a second.
>> Yeah.
>> But john, I know you care a lot
about this issue that most
people should.
>> Yeah, well, I'm I'm glad that
you had those two as the first two.
So I mean, look, Amsterdam is a
great example of one of the states
that historically had to deal with
this for a very long time.
And they have built in defenses as
places like in Louisiana,
some cities have that new Orleans
has that.
But they are not designed
to deal with the severity and
the frequency of
the flooding that's going to come.
And once we beyond move beyond just
the flooding.
Once we're talking
about permanent sea level increase,
that's not a cyclical thing
that happens throughout the year.
They're not designed to permanently
hold off the ocean,
that's just not how it works.
So cities like that,
people are going to have to move,
they're going to have to leave.
Now, I'm not too worried about them
as Ben Shapiro has pointed out,
they can just sell their property
right before they leave.
So financially, they'll have a leg
up to move somewhere else,
it won't cause any cast or
anything like that.
But Basra is a good example of one
of the other issues, so
the flooding isn't just
that water comes in.
And drives people away and
destroys infrastructure,
that's terrible enough.
But assuming that you're at
the point where conceivably
once the flooding goes away.
You could re inhabit that area,
it's not just like you dry it out
and you're good.
Do you remember Texas had massive
flooding?
>> Yeah.
>> In Houston, I have a friend who
lives in Houston, there were major
problems with mold coming out of
the flooding that they had.
>> Yeah. >> And
that was huge health hazard for so
many people.
And you'll be shocked to find out
that it's going to hit people
who are already doing not well
economically even more.
And so you can expect that it's
going to, in certain areas of the
world as they said with pasta, it's
going to bring certain diseases.
You're going to have areas
are going to have worse problems
with pests like mosquitoes and
things like that as well as mold.
This is going to cause massive
damage in terms of quality of life
as well as damage to infrastructure
and it's only going to get worse.
And I'm so glad that you're
focusing on this because it points
out that, this is not just just
a 70 years from now thing.
In fact, we're seeing some
increased flooding
in places like in Florida and
stuff like that already.
>> Mm-hm, exactly, I mean, when you
look at the amount of money
the United States is now spending.
On any given year to just respond
to climate fueled extreme weather
conditions, right?
These natural disasters, you see
how stupid our unwillingness to
pass policies really is, right?
And so we have Joe Biden at this
climate conference that he's
back now.
And to be honest with you, I had no
interest in hearing anything you
had to say at that conference.
>> Mm-hm. >> Because it's all BS,
I mean, because
we know what's happening here at
home with the reconciliation bill.
Which included previously,
a provision that was pretty
good, right?
A provision that would really
incentivize utilities to switch
over to renewable energy.
>> Mm-hm.
>> But man, she didn't like it
because Manchin profits
off of coal.
And as a result, he persuaded Joe
Biden and corporate democrats to
strip the bill of that provision.
>> Do you not own a coal company
because you just said
that it would be good to
incentivize them away from coal.
I don't understand why you would
think are you one of the few people
without a cold >> [CROSSTALK] I
mean everybody is saying that
they have investments in cold.
>> Yeah, it's good to own coal.
[LAUGH] >> Yeah.
>> It's insane.
>> But think about that,
decades from now we'll be able to
look back and think well.
America could have lead on this and
and really moved away in a vigorous
fashion towards solar as well
as wind energy.
Which would have not only been
better in fighting climate change
but would have also helped fight
against pollution.
We often forget about pollution,
pollution kills literally millions
of people around the globe every
single year.
That's just a nice side
effect you get from
fighting against climate change.
You also kill the pollution but
Joe Manchin wanted to make some
more money.
And I know what you're thinking,
what does he need it for?
He's already a multimillionaire but
I don't know the number
looks nice when it's bigger.
So if a couple million people
need to die,
Joe Manchin has got to get richer.
>> So I promised that I would get
to some of the US cities that are
already impacted by climate change.
But according to this new report
will be underwater as soon as 2030,
so New Orleans of course is on that
list.
Let's go to graphic for the city's
system of levees protects it from
future sea levels up from lake.
Do not pronounce that >> I assume
it's more possible [CROSSTALK]
>> All right Lake Maurepas in
the north from Lake Salvador and
little Lake in the south.
Without those defenses, New Orleans
would be severely threatened by
rising sea [LAUGH] levels.
But even with them,
the damage looks catastrophic,
the galaxy and
Jean Lafitte wild park reserves.
Look particularly vulnerable on
the map, both appear almost totally
submerged.
So they also shared a map that
showed what these areas
look like and as we know,
climate change is already severely
impacted New Orleans.
And I want to go to the last
graphic here and everyone
please check out this report.
Unfortunately, we don't have time
to get into every single city
that was noted here.
>> Those visuals are crazy.
>> The visuals are crazy.
>> You might live in one of these
cities and
you can see the areas that
are considered at extreme risk.
>> You also have Savannah Georgia,
Georgia sits in a hurricane
hotspot.
But even without extreme weather
events, the historic city could see
land swallowed up by the sea on all
sides.
The Savannah River in the north and
the Ogeechee River in the south
could both spill into the nearby
marshland.
Meaning when hurricanes and flash
floods do hit the city, the effects
may even be more severe.
>> Yeah. >> So this is what we're
dealing with, right?
And so when we talk,
we'll use the phrase of privatizing
gains, socializing losses.
We already see that play out,
especially on the issue of
climate change.
Our tax money helps to fund the
necessary relief efforts that are
taking place after these extreme
weather conditions take place.
On the other hand,
these fossil fuel companies keep
pocketing the money that they're
making off of drilling,
off of fracking, off of mining.
And there's really no genuine
discussion about stopping all of
that.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah and look,
we're supposed to believe that our
government, especially
the Republican Party are very
concerned about national defense.
Generally that means they want to
go and invade other countries but
supposedly they're ready if
necessary to defend us.
So what if it was Iraqi militants?
Iraqi militants have been making,
they've been taking over a lot of
ground around Savannah Georgia
every year.
They're taking a little bit more
and you know what, in New Orleans,
Iraqi militants come in a couple of
months every year.
And they kill a few people,
they destroy some territory and
then they back out.
But they'll be back next year and
every year a little bit worse.
Would we allow it if it was that,
if it was Turkish soldiers,
if Chile was invading and
taking over these areas.
So they just took out Miami it's
not, it's not habitable anymore,
would we allow it for that, then
why are we allowing it for this?
This is also far more predictable
than some sort of military
conflict, it's also totally within
our grasp to do something about it.
We can actually mitigate these
effects.
We can help the people who
are going to be suffering, many of
them Republicans by the way.
This feels a lot like the pandemic,
it is us try screaming
to the heavens to save the lives.
And livelihoods of conservatives
that don't give a damn about us.
>> Yep. >> But
this this damage is coming,
we're seeing it every year.
>> Yeah, it's interesting that you
bring up the pandemic because
just yesterday,
I was talking to Junk about this.
It was on the show and it was
a little bit of my doom arr is but
I think the pandemic is a pretty
good indicator.
Of what we plan on doing
in response to most crises and
disasters and climate change is
a perfect example of that.
>> Yeah, and there's no vaccine for
flooding.
>> Exactly.
>> Or wildfires [LAUGH] >> Exactly.
>> Yeah.