me to interrupt you sir i don't mean to
interrupt you sir but uh the president
has formally been impeached in the house
of representatives 217 votes with what
you needed he's now
uh they've gotten that much at the very
least and the number of votes to come
including talk that we could get
anywhere from a half dozen to when all
is said and done maybe up to 10 to 12
republicans your thoughts on the number
of republicans who are part of this
and agree with this congressman
well as i look at the board there's now
nine republicans
out of the 222 uh
uh i've been saying between five and ten
i got the staffer
that tells me it's gonna get beyond ten
and i'm gonna see if he has to buy me an
ice cream cone
well it's nine
denouncing violence doesn't want to see
violence doesn't want to see any
problems
for the inauguration uh what do you
think of those remarks to sort of tamp
things
down well i don't think
anybody takes his presidential remarks
seriously
uh he has not said anything
in the last several weeks that anything
akin to the truth
uh and he's very seldom told the truth
since he's been in office
so i'm not paying attention to what the
president says
um finally i just spoke to newly elected
and sworn in
republican congresswoman nancy mace uh
who isn't quite sure she's going to go
to the inauguration next week it wasn't
a political statement as much as a
safety one she's concerned
are you i assume going but do you hear a
lot of talk like that
from congressmen women senators who are
leery
i'm worried about how safe it's going to
be in the capitol next week do you share
their concern
yes i do i've talked to a lot of members
of the last several days
and uh within the last 24 hours
i've seen a reversal in their attitudes
members are now very very apprehensive
about next week i'm going to be spending
some time this weekend
as you know i hold an honorary position
as chair
of the inaugural committee uh i'm not
making
uh the hard and fast decisions as to
what should or should not be done
i am offering my suggestions i have
encouraged
all of my constituents to stay at home
and watch it on television
they had a pretty uh good experience
with our
national convention i think they can
have the same kind of experience
uh watching this inauguration on
television
so i've been discouraging people from
coming to washington the men
of washington they've asked him not to
come i think that what we ought to do
is stay in the safety of our homes uh
because of covert 19
and because of impending dangers
because so much of this surrounds the
celebration of martin luther king jr's
birthday
which is on monday so he hear them
saying they're gonna be here on the 17th
and come back on the 20th i think a lot
of this has to do
uh with the symbolism of the weekend
that we celebrate
uh the birthday of martin luther king jr
finally sir um the president as you know
will not be
at joe biden's inauguration we don't
know where he will be or what he'll be
doing
what do you think of that
well uh i think that that is
indicative of who and what this
president has been
uh since he's been in office he has
very little respect for the noble
traditions that have kept this country
together
if you just think about what we were
doing last wednesday
we were really formalizing uh an
effort to get beyond an election
as you know these elections are
certified in the states
uh in the one territory of puerto rico
and they come up here
in mahogany boxes we go through a
ceremony on the floor
of the house of representatives it's
basically a ceremonial
we are actually counting up the votes
from each state
they've already been talented at the
state level and then what we're trying
to do
is that this is an effort of letting the
whole world
see what the transfer of power look
alike
look al gore had just lost a very
contentious election
but as vice president and president of
the senate he's still on that floor
he did the transfer of power in one of
the closest elections
ever in the history of this country
losing about 580 some odd votes
here's a guy that loses by seven million
votes and he wants to overturn
the traditional process al gore was a
classic
a class guy back in 2000
it's a pity we don't have that in this
president
you're curious at all where donald trump
is going to be
on january 20th where he's going to go
what he's going to do
but i have absolutely no idea where he's
going to go
i suspect he doesn't have any idea
either
congressman thank you very very much
james cliver in the house majority whip
very good seeing you again on this
historic day
for those of you who are just tuning in
here you can see those numbers more than
enough of right now
for the house of representatives for the
second time in 13 months to impeach
president donald j trump on a singular
count of inciting
insurrection and violence in the
nation's capital
chat program on what happens now chad
well good afternoon neil this house a
vote is still open but they're going to
close at any minute here so far 10
republicans have cast their ballots in
favor of impeaching the president of the
united states for the first time
in history neil the house of
representatives has impeached a
president of the united states twice
for only the second time the house has
impeached the same
government figure twice for president
trump the house has now
impeached him twice in 13 months there
have been 21 successful impeachments in
house history
and two of them are of donald john trump
the president of the united states
that's where we stand
with history now what happens in the
next couple of days
the house of representatives has to pass
some sort of a resolution
to send over the articles of impeachment
to trigger
the senate trial you might remember in
late 2019 and early 2020
house speaker nancy pelosi held the ball
as she did not send over those articles
of impeachment for 28 days
now just a couple of moments ago on the
house floor the impeachment managers the
prosecutors essentially who nancy pelosi
has tapped
to present the house's case on this
article of impeachment in the senate
they all met on the floor she's already
named them she announced them last night
and they are formally set up to present
that case but we don't know what the
situation is
whether or not the senate they have
special authority where under
emergencies they can come back into
session
and if that's the case if the house in
fact votes to send
over that article of impeachment then
you have to probably start
right away you know january 15th last
year is when the house voted to send the
article of impeachment across to the
senate
they started the senate trial the next
day that's where you formally
present the articles of impeachment
before the senate the the impeachment
managers are there
uh people are sworn in and then you get
going a couple a day or two later here
we don't know if that will be the case
uh if they can work out a deal you know
there's some people saying well
can you continue with an impeachment
trial after president trump
leaves office yes there is precedent for
that you had that with william belnap
who was the secretary of war in 1876 who
was impeached
and was in fact acquitted uh even though
he had resigned in his senate trial you
had this happen with the very first
impeachment the only other person other
than president trump
who's been impeached twice uh this was
william blount who is a senator
from tennessee in the 1790s and he had
left the senate but they still went
ahead and
at least had a senate trial in his
instance there so this is up in the air
and which side you want to do this on uh
you know
just this afternoon a couple of hours
ago here mitch mcconnell for now
the senate majority leader has indicated
that he would not announce
whether he would vote to convict
president trump but there have been
intimations from mcconnell
that he is open to all this you know he
is very displeased with the president he
believes that the president
cost republicans the senate he is very
upset at what uh what happened up here
to the legislative branch and he is the
majority leader
is kind of one of the guardians of this
branch of government uh he thinks it may
be the president
you know this was a bridge too far and
so he seems to be open to that process
but keep in mind that it takes
two-thirds a super majority to convict
now earlier i know you were talking with
bret baer about
what could happen to president trump
later you know
you have to pass some sort of a
resolution often after you've convicted
somebody
in the senate to make sure that they
don't hold public office it talks about
this in the constitution it's there
but i'll give you an example where they
didn't do kind of this this
auxiliary motion in the senate in the
case of alcy hastings
the democratic congressman from florida
that tells you enough right there he has
been a member of the house of
representatives
since 1993 he was impeached and
convicted
and removed from the federal judge as a
you know in an impeachment trial in the
senate in 1989
they didn't do that secondary resolution
and that's why alcy hastings
is a member of the house of
representatives and has been for almost
30 years now so that's something to look
at but again you know what the mechanics
are here can they actually start this
is it is it beneficial for democrats to
start this process
right now is it better to wait until
they have the majority once you've sworn
in these two new senators
from georgia and you have vice president
harris on board here and you technically
have 51
is this machination between chuck
schumer the senate minority leader for
now and mitch mcconnell the majority
leader
is this part of them maybe trying to
work out some sort of a power sharing
agreement
you know you're going to have a 50 50
senate nowhere is it written down that
just because it's 50 50 that the party
with the vice president has the majority
and what you had happened
uh 20 years ago when there was a 50 50
senate between the republicans and the
democrats tom daschle the democratic
leader trent lott
the republican leader they worked out a
power sharing agreement
uh where you had you know trent lott was
basically the majority leader but
tom daschle had some rights you had a
50-50 senate there that has to be
approved could that be part of this
and you know let's just say they agreed
to say okay let's go ahead
let's have emergency authority let's
start this trial
under the senate rules and we saw this
happen with the senate rules in the
impeachment trial last time around
you know you meet every day except
sunday at 1 o'clock the chief justice
presides
there's some question whether or not
this continues past
when president trump's term whether or
not john roberts the chief justice of
the united states would preside we've
had the president pro tem
the most senior member of the majority
party preside over
other impeachment trials of lower
figures we had that with a couple of
federal judges in 2009 and 2010
so there are some tremendous questions
right now
about how they proceed but but make note
of this
you know there were 10 republicans who
so far have voted
uh you know for impeachment here i was
told that it was going to be somewhere
between about five and probably 20. so
we're somewhere in the middle here we've
had a couple of
of members come on board that we didn't
know last night pete meyer who is a
republican freshman from michigan
has voted to impeach you also had
anthony gonzalez
a republican congressman from ohio who
voted to impeach those are some of the
new ones today dan newhouse from
from washington state so you know that
kind of tells you that this is a
bipartisan
impeachment neil so if it never did go
to the senate and that's it uphill climb
i get that i could see elisa murkowski
voting for repeat should have mitt
romney have been says
um maybe a mitch mcconnell that he's if
you buy some of these
reports of conversations he's had that
he supported what the democrats are
doing in the house
but you'd still need about 13 more um
is that doable that's right neil let me
just interrupt you for one second i'll
answer your question but it sounds like
they are just about to close the vote
nancy pelosi is in the chair here and
she's going to announce the vote total
she's just asking right now
if there's anybody else who wants to
vote here so right now 231 years
197 days five members have not voted and
remember
that they can vote by proxy so let's
listen here for a minute
just to let you know the vote is now
final 231
u.s congressmen and women that voted to
impeach the president of the united
states that includes 10 republicans
uh that number was going up uh
throughout the day
uh and a bigger margin that did not go
strictly along party lines as it did in
the house
13 months ago they're calling
this over now as this now moves to the
united states
senate the timing is the issue here
mitch mcconnell has already indicated
that it is probably unrealistic for the
time being
to get them to move before the 19th the
day before this vote
the state of the union let's listen the
nays are 197
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the resolution is adopted without
objection the motion to reconsider is
laid upon the
table congratulations