I do believe that my sister has psychologically impaired
and groomed my nephew.
Do you want your nails painted?
When James was living with my parents,
there was never any indication
that James wanted to be a girl.
He saw that I played basketball and he said,
I wanna play basketball like you.
He loved being outdoors.
He loved flowers, he loved colors, but he would say,
I like the color pink and like the color purple.
My sister, she would hear his interest and is like,
oh, well, since you like colors,
you know, you can wear colors
and that's where it began where, you know,
he had nail polish on.
Later, James moved in with his mom around the age of four.
Carlie's boyfriend at the time had a daughter.
They had you know, already set a princess for her,
T.V. had a princess show on and he would see his stepsister
in a costume and he would wanna wear the costume
that she's wearing.
And when Carlie would see James dress up,
she did believe that that was considered actions
of a boy that wanted to be a girl.
So one month before James turns four years old,
he came over to my parents' house.
I was there as well.
He looked kind of confused, distraught,
and he said, my mom showed me a video
of a four-year-old little boy getting pills to be a girl
and he had a surgery to go from a boy to a girl.
He felt that she was showing him this
so that they could do that.
And so the next following statement that he made
for the first time ever was that,
I don't like myself because I'm not a girl.
She believes that he wants to be a girl
and I think that this child wants to make his mother happy.
Okay, thanks for being here, Daniel.
Thanks for having me.
Now you refer to this child as James and he,
or Bella and she?
Well, I can identify him as James,
because I've never met a Bella.
I've never been introduced,
she never attempted to show me or introduce me.
There has never been any type of--
That's not true. It is completely.
You've never contacted me. There are text message.
You guys have not
been expressing any type of-- I mean do I get to talk?
Or is this about you guys?
Whatever, man.
I would love to be able to let...
You've had about 30 minutes of lies that I've already heard.
She was absent within the first three to four years
of his life.
That's not true.
She would you know, was splitting up, married, unmarried,
living at different places,
was unable to fully raise the child.
My parents raised him and I helped, stepped in as well.
You have never helped raise him.
That is not true.
Being ungrateful is one of her greatest qualities.
Well I mean you live with your parents,
you don't have a job.
Have you got, hey where's your college degree?
You've been living at home now--
You live at their house 'cause you have no job.
Can I speak, or do they--
I don't know, you seem like to me you're doing all right.
I appreciate it.
I would just to be able to speak.
I don't remember me getting to talk over them.
So can I speak, or?
Go ahead, yeah, go ahead.
That would be awesome, appreciate it.
Okay.
Definitely great.
Spread your ignorance, that's fine.
Is that appropriate for him to be saying to me?
What?
Spread my ignorance.
Spread your ignorance, it's frightening.
'Cause you think that we have some agenda to somehow--
Being ignorant and you're being ignorant.
I would love to speak.
You literally continue to speak.
You have the floor.
So from the very first days is when she came back
into his life, she started to learn that he liked colors,
he liked flowers, he had a wonderful imagination,
so from that absentee side, she initially had to determine--
You weren't there when he was a baby.
I would love to speak. I would love to speak.
Okay, come on, just say what you wanna say.
What, are you delicate?
She moves him in.
There's already like I said, a princess house
with a princess room, princess clothing
because she saw those interests.
Those are now where we gotta go with this situation.
That meant so much that that was exactly...
That was on his visit. That's what you said.
Her full, I would love if I could talk.
That'd be awesome.
Can I talk?
Yes.
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So you think she legitimately thought
that was the interest, but then she closed out any options.
Correct.
Like showing those explicit videos.
You know when he saw that video
it was almost like she was showing it
so that like, they were planning on doing that together.
I want to make my mom happy,
I see what you're showing me,
and yes mom, we're gonna do what you're introducing to me
because that's what I wanna do for you.