>>CORLEY PEEL: WELCOME BACK. WE’RE LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE TEENAGER WHO KILLED 19
CHILDREN AND 2 TEACHERS AT A
TEXAS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND HE
REPORTEDLY HAD A POOR
RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS MOTHER
AND HAD DROPPED OUT OF HIGH
SCHOOL AHEAD OF HIS GRADUATION
AND HIS LOVED ONES ADMITTED
THAT HE HAD NOT BEEN MET. THEY
HAVE NOT SPENT MUCH TIME WITH
HIM BECAUSE HE WAS WORKING
OUTSIDE OF UVALDE AND FORMER
CLASSMATES SAY HE HAD BEEN
BULLIED FOR A SPEECH
IMPEDIMENT. BUT FORMER
COWORKERS SAY HE HAD AN
AGGRESSIVE STREAK. HE ALSO
POSTED PICTURES OF HIS NEW
GUNS ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND SENT
MESSAGES TO A GIRL IN GERMANY
SAYING, YEAH, A SURPRISE AND
THEN REVEALED HE SHOT HIS
GRANDMOTHER, CLINICAL
PSYCHOLOGIST DOCTOR JUSTIN
D’ARIENZO IS JOINING US THIS
MORNING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
BEING HERE. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR FOR HAVING MADE. YOU
KNOW, UNFORTUNATE. WE’RE
TALKING ABOUT THIS TOPIC.
>>CORLEY PEEL: IT IS IN. YOU
KNOW, THERE WAS A LOT OF SIGNS
LEADING UP TO THIS. CAN YOU
TELL US WHAT IS THE MENTALITY
>> OF A SCHOOL SHOOTER? SURE.
SO SO PSYCHOLOGICALLY, THEY’RE
USUALLY 3 CLASSIC TYPES OF
PEOPLE THAT THAT WOULD WOULD
COMMIT AN ATROCITY LIKE THIS.
AND IT USUALLY A PSYCHOPATHIC
PERSON. SO THAT’S AN ANTI
SOCIAL PERSON WITH NO REMORSE
AND THEY ARE SEEKING A
VENDETTA. THE OTHER ONE IS A
PARANOID, A PSYCHOTIC PERSON.
A PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENICS OR
SOMEBODY WITH MAJOR DEPRESSION
AND PSYCHOSIS AND THEN THE
OTHER PART, WHICH IS WHICH IS
CLEARLY THIS PERSON WHERE THEY
ARE CHRONICALLY TRAUMATIZED,
SOMEBODY WITH A HISTORY OF
CHRONIC TRAUMA WHERE THERE’S
BEEN ABUSE AND TEASING AND
BULLYING THOSE 3 FOR THOSE 3
PERSONALITIES ARE NOT MUTUALLY
EXCLUSIVE, BUT TYPICALLY THE
FIRST TO OUR OUR OUR PEOPLE
FROM INTACT FAMILIES THAT TO
UNDERGO A SERIES OF OF
STRESSORS. BUT THE 3RD TYPE IS
USUALLY SOMEBODY FROM LOWER
SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS THAT AND
COMES FROM A VERY
DYSFUNCTIONAL FAMILY WHERE
THERE’S POLICE INVOLVEMENT AND
OTHER BEHAVIORAL ISSUES. AND I
THINK BASED ON WHAT YOU HAVE,
YOU HAVE SHARED TOO THIS
MORNING. HE REALLY NEEDS THE
PATTERN OF THAT 3RD TYPE OF
PERSON. BUT AGAIN, IT DOESN’T
NECESSARILY MEAN IF YOU MEET
THE IF YOU MEET THAT
PERSONALITY TYPE THAT YOU’LL
COMMIT THIS ATROCITY, RIGHT?
THERE’S USUALLY A SERIES OF
OTHER FACTORS. AGAIN, MULTIPLE
STRESSORS THAT HAPPENED AND
ONLY AFTER SOMETHING LIKE THIS
HAPPENS. DO WE SEE THE ENTIRE
STORY OF HOW THIS PLAYED OUT.
>>CORLEY PEEL: AND WHAT ARE
SOME THINGS YOU SOME OTHER
THINGS THAT STOOD OUT TO YOU
ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A RED
FLAG ABOUT HIS PERSONALITY
SHOULD HAVE GONE IGNORED.
>> SO CERTAINLY WE HAVE EARLY
ON WHERE HE WAS BEING BULLIED
IN SCHOOL AND HE ENDED UP
DROPPING OUT OF SCHOOL BUT
POST, YOU KNOW, 3 DAYS BEFORE
THE EVENT, OF COURSE, POSTING
THOSE PICTURES OF OF THE
ASSAULT RIFLES. BUT ALSO HE
HAD BEEN POST HE HAD TRIED TO
GET A WEAPON A YEAR AGO TRY TO
GET A SISTER TO GET A WEAPON.
HE WAS CLEARLY FASCINATED WITH
WEAPONS AND THEN THE CUTTING
OF HIS FACE. AND THERE’S SO
MANY SO MANY DETAILS HERE TO
THE STORY. AND THIS IS WHY
IT’S SO IMPORTANT, TOO, FOR
FOR FAMILIES TO BE INVOLVED IN
COMMUNITIES TO BE INVOLVED
BECAUSE EVERY LIKE ALL ALL
THESE, ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT
ARE REPORTING THIS
INFORMATION, THEY’RE ALL
INDIVIDUALS AND NOBODY KNEW
THE COMPLETE AND THAT’S WHY
IT’S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR
PARENTS TO BE WORKING
TOGETHER. SO BECAUSE PARENTS
ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT REALLY
WILL KNOW A COMPLETE STORY OF
ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE
HAPPENING.
>>CORLEY PEEL: THAT’S SO TRUE.
EVEN THE MESSAGES HE SENT TO
THE GIRL IN GERMANY, I MEAN,
WHEN SOMEONE 10 JEWS MESSAGES
LIKE THAT OR THEY START
GETTING RECLUSIVE AND HAVE
THAT FASCINATION WITH WEAPONS.
AT WHAT POINT DO YOU STEP IN
AND TELL SOMEONE WHO IS
SOMEONE THAT YOU COULD GO
TELL? SO THERE ARE THERE ARE
COUPLE AVENUES AND MANY OF US
HAVE HEARD OF THE BAKER ACT
WHERE WHERE SOMEBODY IS HELD
FOR 72 HOURS. IF IF YOU’RE IF
ANYBODY IS CONCERNED ABOUT
>>CORLEY PEEL: SOMEBODY BEING
A THREAT TO THEMSELVES OR
>> 2 OTHER PEOPLE. YOU CAN
CALL THE POLICE AND THE PEOPLE
AND THEY WILL BE PSYCHIATRIC
LEE HOSPITALIZED FOR 72 HOURS.
THE OTHER THING IS WHO 19
STATES INCLUDING DC WE HAVE
THESE RED FLAG LAWS WHERE IT
IS A IT’S A RISK PROTECTIVE
ORDER. BUT IN FLORIDA, ONLY A
POLICE OFFICER CAN PETITION
THE COURT TO HAVE SOME OF
THESE GUN REMOVED OR AND THEN
ALSO PREVENT THEM FROM HAVING
OTHER WEAPONS. BUT
UNFORTUNATELY, YOU AND OTHER
STATES FAMILIES CAN CAN
PETITION THE COURT. SO BUT YOU
CAN ALWAYS CALL LAW
ENFORCEMENT. YOU CAN ALWAYS
CALL A MENTAL HEALTH PERSON.
THERE ARE MANY CRISIS LINES.
SO THE IMPORTANT THING IS IF
YOU SEE SOMETHING HERE,
SOMETHING WE’VE GOT TO SAY
SOMETHING. AND THE ISSUE IS
THERE’S THIS DIFFUSION OF
RESPONSIBILITY AND WE HAVE
OPTIMISM, BIAS. WE NEVER THINK
A BAD THING IS GOING TO HAPPEN
OR SOMEBODY ELSE WILL TAKE
CARE OF WE’RE ALL RESPONSIBLE
IT’S GOT TO BE A COMMUNITY
EFFORT.
>>CORLEY PEEL: THAT’S SO TRUE.
AND AND, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE
WITH PASS SCHOOL SHOOTERS OR
MASS SHOOTINGS, THERE WAS
ALWAYS THAT HESITANCY WHERE
PEOPLE SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE
WAS RED FLAGS LINING UP IN NO
ONE SAID ANYTHING OR NOTHING
WAS DONE. SO DEFINITELY
IMPORTANT TO SPEAK UP. IF YOU
DO SEE SOMETHING SUSPICIOUS.