Katie, what was your background?
And because it seems like you guys
all relate really well
with your testimony here.
What was your what was your background?
Well, I grew up in the main land,
in Wisconsin,
born in Chicago, moved to Wisconsin,
and I grew up on this big farm.
Francie is also a big farm girl.
So we also have that in common.
And, you know, I ran wild shooting,
going hunting with my mom,
doing all the things very tomboyish.
And then when I was ten,
we end up moving to Hawaii.
And all of a sudden there was a big culture change
because at that time,
Hawaii didn't have a lot of
Caucasian people that lived there.
They mostly had the,
you know, the locals.
The Hawaiians, the Samoans,
you know, some Korean people like that.
And so when somebody of a different
color comes in, you know, people kind of
they don't know how to handle it.
And so the way that the locals handled it
when I arrived was,
you know, if we don't understand
you, we're going to
we're going to beat you up.
We're going to attack you.
So I'm here.
I am this little Caucasian girl
and the locals, and I don't blame them.
I love Hawaiian people.
I love Hawaii.
But, you know, I ended up on the bus,
so I had a choice.
It was either continue
to be beat up and picked on or
become the person that started
beating up people and picking on people.
So I chose the latter
and I became very tough, very aggressive,
very violent.
And that led to drug addiction.
That led to me cooking meth.
That led to me being a collector.
I started doing collections
for other drug dealers
for the Mexican mob.
I started,
you know,
when people owed them money for a deal
and they weren't paying,
I was the one that went
and got the money.
So I cultivated this very aggressive,
very violent lifestyle.
And I eventually ended up
going into jail,
like at least a dozen times.
And then finally,
when I was doing a cook,
I was cooking meth.
I got arrested by the feds
and got a 12
and a half years sentence to fed time.
Wow. Did you serve out that full time?
Well, actually, God did a miracle.
It's a long story.
That I’ll try to cut very, very short.
I got sentenced to a fed Prison
in California.
Where...what is that woman?
That
Rockefeller's daughter.
She got?
She was
she went and robbed a bank
with a machine gun.
She got sent there.
Patty Hearst.
Patty Hearst
sent was sent to the Fed prison
I was in before I got there.
The Tylenol killer,
the lady that was killing
everybody with Tylenol was there.
The lady that shot Gerald Ford was there.
It was a big shot-
It was for the high end Fed prisoner.
And so I was there and about a year
or two into my sentence, after I’d
already done
a couple of years in holding.
The Lord said I'm going
to get you out on November 21st.
And he gave me
the days and everything
and I started going around saying,
God told me, I'm going
to get out of my sentence
this year in 57 days, November 21st.
And they all
the whole place was laughing at me.
My counselor sent me
to the facility psychiatrist
because I “lost my mind”,
because they heard
that I was talking to God
and that God had told me
that I was going to get out in 57 days
on November 21st.
And it ended up
not happening on that day.
And everybody's like,
I told you so God doesn't exist.
You know,
she's listening to some she's gone crazy.
You know,
she's listening
to some devil or whatever.
But it ended up that the next year
I got a call from the court system
saying that I'd won an appeal
to go back to sentencing.
So I did.
And we went to sentencing court
even though I was totally guilty
of the crime.
They busted me in the lab
and I ended up getting out on 21st
and it was actually my 57th month
in captivity.
So He did it.