HILLYARD, I APPRECIATE YOU
POINTING OUT THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN WHITE SUPREMACISTS AND
FOLKS WITH MENTAL ILLNESS.
THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
NOW IT’S TIME FOR THE PANEL TO
REACT TO THE STORIES THAT HAVE
HAD US GLUED TO OUR SEATS ALL
WEEK.
FIRST UP, THE DEREK CHAUVIN, A
WEEK OF COMPELLING AND
HEART-WRENCHING TESTIMONY AS THE
FORMER POLICE OFFICER FACES
THREE SEPARATE MURDER CHARGES ON
THE DEATH OF GEORGE FLOYD.
ON FRIDAY, WE HEARD FROM RICHARD
ZIMMERMAN, THE DEPARTMENT’S
LONGEST SERVING OFFICER WHO
EXPLAINED WHY EVERYTHING THAT
CHAUVIN DID THAT DAY WAS WRONG.
>> PULLING HIM DOWN TO THE
GROUND FACE DOWN AND PUTTING A
KNEE ON THE NECK FOR THAT AMOUNT
OF TIME IS JUST UNCALLED FOR.
I SAW NO REASON WHY THE OFFICERS
FELT THEY WERE IN DANGER, IF
THAT’S WHAT THEY FELT.
AND THAT’S THEY WOULD HAVE TO
FEEL TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT KIND
OF FORCE.
>> JOINING ME NOW IS MY DEAR FRIEND ANGELA WRY HOST OF ON ONE
FRIEND ANGELA WRY HOST OF ON ONE
WITH ANGELA WRY ANDROW, ROW.
HOST OF ROLAND MARTIN.
YOU’RE AN ATTORNEY, ANGELA,
SEEMS LIKE AN OPEN AND SHUT
CASE.
ONE OF MY FAVORITE MOMENTS IS
DONALD WILLIAMS, THE MMA
FIGHTER.
CONTROL ROOM, TELL ME IF WE HAVE
THAT SOUND, HE HAD AN AMAZING
SOUND BITE WHEN HE WAS ASKED
SOMETHING OF THE POLICE
OFFICERS.
I DON’T THINK WE HAVE HIM -- AN
ATTORNEY ASKED HIM, HE SAID YOU
WOULD SLAP THE YOU KNOW WHAT HE
SAID TO THE ATTORNEY, LOOKED
OVER TO DEREK CHAUVIN AND SAID I
MEANT IT.
A MOMENT FOR ME IN THE TRIAL.
TELL US WHAT YOUR TAKE IS ON THE
TRIAL.
>> ON TRIAL, IT IS NOT JUST
WHETHER OR NOT DEREK CHAUVIN ON
TRIAL, WHETHER OR NOT POLICE
OFFICERS, IN THE MINNEAPOLIS
POLICE DEPARTMENT, 20% OF THE
MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENTS ARE BLACK.
BUT 60% OF THE USE OF FORCE
INCIDENTS ARE INVOLVING BLACK
FOLKS.
SO WHAT REALLY IS ON TRIAL IS
WHETHER OR NOT BLACK LIVES TRULY
MATTER.
AND WHETHER OR NOT WHITE POLICE
OFFICERS AND PERPETRATORS OF
THESE CRIMES WILL EVER HAVE TO
PAY THE COST OF TAKING THEIR
LIVES.
SO, WE’RE WATCHING THAT WITH
THAT HEAVINESS.
THE TESTIMONY AGAINST DEREK
CHAUVIN THIS WEEK HAS CERTAINLY
BEEN COMPELLING, WHETHER WE’RE
TALKING ABOUT THE LONGEST
SERVING POLICE DETECTIVE IN THE
DEPARTMENT SAYING THAT NOT ONLY
WAS IT A VIOLATION OF POLICY,
BUT IT WAS TOTALLY UNNECESSARY.
9 MINUTES 29 SECONDS THAT WE
WATCHED MISTAKENLY THROUGHOUT
THE SUMMER SAYING 8 MINUTES AND
46 SECONDS, WATCHING THE
TESTIMONY OF HIS GIRLFRIEND
WHERE ALL OF A SUDDEN GEORGE
FLOYD AND HIS DRUG USE IT ON
TRIAL.
THIS ISN’T ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT
HE WAS HIGH OR NOT.
IT IS NOT ABOUT A COUNTERFEIT
$20 BILL OR NOT.
IT IS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT A USE
OF FORCE WAS IN ALIGNMENT WITH
WHATEVER THE ALLEGED ACTION THAT
GEORGE FLOYD TOOK.
>> YEAH, EXACTLY.
ANGELA, I THINK YOU MAKE A GOOD
POINT.
ROLAND, LET ME ASK YOU, BECAUSE,
LOOK, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING
ON TWITTER AND SOCIAL MEDIA,
WHITENESS IS ON TRIAL HERE.
WHITE SUPREMACY IS ON TRIAL
HERE.
I’D LIKE TO SAY SLOW YOUR ROLL,
THAT’S A LONGER TRIAL THAT I’D
LIKE TO BE IN MYSELF.
YOU’VE BEEN COVERING THIS, WHAT
DO YOU THINK THIS SAYS TO THE
COUNTRY ON LAW ENFORCEMENT,
SYSTEMIC WHITE SUPREMACY THAT
EXISTS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
ITS ENGAGEMENT WITH BLACK
COMMUNITIES ALL OVER THIS
COUNTRY?
>> WELL, WHAT FOLKS WATCHING
THIS WILL UNDERSTAND THE LACK OF
PROTOCOL AND HOW FOLKS BROKE
VARIOUS RULES.
IT WAS POWERFUL TO HAVE THE
PROSECUTION IN THE FIRST WEEK TO
PUT ON TWO COPS TO IN ESSENCE,
CONTRADICT THE ACTIONS OF DEREK
CHAUVIN.
YOU LOOK AT THESE CASES, YOU
TYPICALLY DON’T SEE THAT, A
HOMICIDE OFFICER, A MEMBER OF
THE BLUE, SITTING ON THE STAND,
ESSENTIALLY SAYING TO ANOTHER
ONE, YOU SCREWED UP ROYALLY.
THAT WAS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING,
EXTREMELY EMOTIONAL, A LOT OF
BLACK PEOPLE, IT’S BEEN HARD TO
LISTEN TO THOSE WITNESSES, THE
CRYING ON THE STAND.
TO HAVE THIS TRIAL, IT’S
IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY’RE
LISTENING TO PEOPLE WALK THROUGH
STEP-BY-STEP AND SEE THE ACTIONS
AND SEE HOW THE OTHER OFFICERS
STOOD AROUND AND NO ONE
INTERVENED. TO HEAR THE EMTs TO SAY THEY DID
TO HEAR THE EMTs TO SAY THEY DID
NOT EVEN CHOOSE TO DO CHECK
IMPRESSIONS.
CHEST COMPRESSIONS.
YOU SEE LATINOS, ASIAN
AMERICANS, INDIVIDUALS NOT
IMPACTED THE WAY WHITE FOLKS
HAVE, ARE WATCHING THIS SAYING,
HERE THERE IS SOMETHING HERE
THAT AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE
SAYING, NOW, LET’S HAVE CHANGE
WHEN IT COMES TO POLICE IN THIS
COUNTRY.
>> YEAH, I THINK YOU RAISE A
POINT, ROLAND.
I WANT TO BRING IN PAULA.
PUNCTUATED BY IT, ANGELA SAYS WE
BUILT THIS COUNTRY FOR FREE.
PAULA, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT
THERE ARE AREAS LIKE NEW YORK,
FOR EXAMPLE, CERTAINLY VICTIMS
OF POLICE BRUTALITY, JUST LIKE
MANY FOLKS IN THE BLACK
COMMUNITY.
WHAT WAS YOUR TAKE ON THIS
TRIAL, PAULA?
>> WHAT I KEPT THINKING ABOUT IS
MR. McMILLIAN’S WORDS, I FEEL
HELPLESS IF.
WHAT I THINK IT IS EVERY BLACK
PERSON IN THIS COUNTRY WAS
FEELING WHICH IS THERE WAS THIS
SENSE OF HIM SURRENDERING,
WITHIN THIS WHITE SUPREMACIST
SYSTEM, THE DEATH OF GEORGE
FLOYD.
FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AND
TREATED AS A CRIMINAL.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT REALLY
STOOD OUT TO ME IS THE WAY HIS
GIRLFRIEND, MISS ROSS HAD TO
PUSH BACK AGAINST THOSE VERY
STEREOTYPES USED TIME AND TIME
TO CRIMINALIZE HIM AS THIS ANGRY
BLACK MAN AS A DRUG ADDICT.
SHE SIMPLY PAINTED A PICTURE OF
AN ORDINARY BLACK MAN WITH A LOT
OF PAIN.
EVERY DAY, PEOPLE AT THE
BORDERS, CRIMINALIZED.
IN HUMANS, WE SAW SOMEONE WHO