one of the strongest media messages coming out of the two thousand thirty
nancy pack convention
is that apparently conservatives are willing to give up the fight over gay
marriage now that may be an overstatement of what's going on
uh... but it is interesting that you had a couple of dueling talks going on
uh... one by the national organization for marriage
who apparently had a much smaller crowd and they have in previous years
and then uh... a couple of other talks one body out by go proud
pattaya like standing room only crowds basically
and uh... i think that without proper portman switchover on gay marriage last
week
i think that there may be something to it so we've got to go through yet to
publix your initial impression from what you see
well i think that the uh... c pack you know again if you want to consider to be
sort of a microcosm of what's going on in the civil war g_o_p_ right now what i
consider to be that
in the idea that they're actually beginning to to break through some of
this logjam it they had over all these years over gay marriage when it's
clearly something that the rest of the country has moved very rapidly aunty
animosity that the last ten years it has been it is tennessee change uh... which
has been awesome to say that but you know it's interesting that the
republican party and of course the faculty partners as well of mob are so
far behind on catching up to that that you know that that's aghast part of what
they are about uh... conservatism
being standing as sort of fort the captive progress a pig isn't that the
famous file class
yeah but the idea is that you know that they're actually talking about it seems
like the perception more than the actual reality they realize that they appear to
be uh... bigots and now they're going to try to not appeared to be bigots but i
don't know if that means of actually tension their hearts well as well as are
willing to be quiet about it top and then go all the best pinning it i'd
think that's ok willie
i'm perfectly fine with people having a for reading this opinions
as long as they don't do anything they someone and they don't make me listen to
the public
and they can always go on line to post them in forums and you know on youtube
comments they can feel free to do that
because of the option off of us
uh... so we're going we're show you some quotes before you my opinion uh... some
quotes from a
first we've got uh... dole prods executive director of destiny lasalle
via
obviously they're gonna have a slightly
uh... more positive stance i guess they're going to asu met their
organization is doing well i mean when you're the executive director the switch
to
but here's a quote from the from geneva solve it
uh... we've tolerated something in our movement for far too long anti-gay
bigotry
let me be clear i do not believe that just because someone opposes same-sex
marriage that that automatically makes him a homophobe
but there are however a few
convincing
there are fewer movie just don't like gay people
in twenty thirty metres is that ok in america anymore
uh... we've also got up water for the conservative for
of the washington post of robin says there are lots of rationales lots of
reasons that one can come to this conclusion that uh... those persons is
changing
but if you simply want to be a debating society we can debate that
if you want to be a winning political party i would suggest the debate has
already taken place in america
we cannot be a war with america on issues of fairness issues of equality
uh... and then that she goes on a little bit farther in terms of what she thinks
will happen if republic party does not actually making strides in this issue at
least until down the rhetoric
in ten years i don't know if there will be a republican party
there's nothing that says that we have to be around but there is a lot of
evidence historically but the progress in america has been all in one direction
tolerance
inclusions barriers fall
you don't go backwards
although they try haven't had a certainly do tracking
no i would say my position is
we have a couple of issues in america to social issues that we've been fighting
out for a long time
i think they demerit is kind of interesting sort of like with marijuana
legalization in that
there's been a lot of progress in a very short period of time
i'd just in the last five years last ten years and we've got some stuff that we
need to at some point but
i think that this is an issue that we can win on
because there that i think likes to say there's no real money there
right if anything is money in the other side because when players would love to
have more people getting their and
and there's no real vested corporate interest in stopping gay people from
getting married
and also it does not have the strong emotional appeal of the the pro-life
arguments that
there's no even theoretical wife being ended
but you're always going to be able to get people to defend
uh... the pro-life position because they discuss a babies are being killed and
some percentage of american population
is gonna say one other thing
but in this case
just say they have been saying it was worsening up and saying you know chrissy
and he's been against it was only arguably been against the historically
how long can that stand against your pictures of happy couples
well you know that that is kind of a on marketing activity i but also
considering the fact that
you know so many young people have just this is just over for them hiding in a
word
when you know that that that the folks that are generally against gay marriage
are basically dying off essentially and that that is going to
basically change for the republican party with or without their consent that
that people are going to continue to move forward on these issues of justice
and fairness and equality ilike when that jennifer rubin said we can't be
at war with america on issues of fairness on issues of the final to lay
you know you guys and they've been doing that for quite a while now an
fight the acting keys and commendable that she
is now finally getting the concept getting clearer concept that hey you
know we should actually be working on fairness and equality that these are
going backwards taking rights away from people which the constitution has never
done before has never been used to take writes from people at least not in the
modern era yes i'm i'm glad to see that it's moving forward but i i still have a
whole lot of of faith in the idea that this is going to move very quickly for
the republican party maybe well i mean i i could be wrong about that but they
could move quickly despite the republican party right from using
legalization in a couple states in the last uh... a little cycle
and i think that you're correct and like that at least these
you couple of people are starting to catch up
because at any given time there were only so many issues that the public who
is not all that political sophisticated isn't all that much time to pay
attention and other very very busy exactly they have a couple of issues
that they associate with each party
and the wall there might not be tons of people who are making their you know
their presence of choice based purely on gay marriage
if they're becoming politically active and politically aware at time when what
seems like an obviously let them get married if they're coming out strongly
against that back in
i think in repulsed people from the party
even if there are other issues that they might agree with them on
plots also very useful and a political context for
people opposing republicans and republican party and the guys anti-gay
marriage box because that gives them actual that tool to continue to fight
against into activate and activites people to come out and and agitate
against you know it's a very ad that said that's a big group of people that
have a lot of influence in hollywood
and other areas of society so when you get those people out there to advocate
for that
you know the republican party is is behind on that one