>> REPORTING ON THE WAR IN
UKRAINE IS INCREASINGLY
DANGEROUS THIS WEEK TO
JOURNALIST WITH FOX NEWS WERE
KILLED ON ASSIGNMENT THERE.
CAMERA MAN AND CONSULTANT.
ALEX UNDER A COUP SHOULD A FEW
DAYS BEFORE THAT JOURNALIST
AND FILMMAKER BRENT RENAUD WAS
SHOT AND KILLED NEAR THE WAR'S
FRONT LINE. HE HAS WORKED FOR
NBC NEWS IN THE PAST, THOUGH
HE WAS NOT WORKING FOR US AT
THE TIME IN UKRAINE.
JOURNALISTS FROM AROUND THE
WORLD LANDED IN UKRAINE BEFORE
RUSSIAN TROOPS INVADED WEEKS
AGO. THEIR WORK TAKES THEM CLOSE TO THE DANGERS OF WAR.
CLOSE TO THE DANGERS OF WAR.
SOMETIMES VERY CLOSE.
>> JUST HEARD THE FIRST SIREN
HAS JUST GONE OFF.
>> BEEN TOLD BY CITY OFFICIALS
SAID THAT INDICATES THAT THIS
IS A CITY UNDER ATTACK. THAT
AGAIN IS THE FIRST TIME WE
HAVE HEARD SIRENS IN THE
CAPITAL. KIEV. THINGS ARE ARE
VERY, VERY SO WE IS PROBABLY
NOT A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO BE LIVE ON CAMERA WITH YOU.
LIVE ON CAMERA WITH YOU.
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SO THE MICRO MOOD IS VERY
TENSE BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A
CITY THAT'S UNDER CURFEW WHERE
I'M NOT GETTING. WE HAVE LIKE
A PATROL HIDING BEHIND THAT
BUSH THERE. WE SPENT HOURS AND
HOURS AND TRAFFIC CROSSING
SUCCESSIVE NOT CHECKPOINTS
WITH UKRAINIAN SOLDIERS WERE
EXTREMELY JITTERY. NO ONE
POINT. SOLDIERS CAME UP TO THE
CAR WITH AK 47 STRONG DEMAND
WE GET OUT. WE COULD HEAR THEM
TALKING AND RE COCKING THEIR
AK 40 SEVENS BEHIND US. IT WAS
ABSOLUTELY I'M SURVIVES SORRY.
DON'T THIS TRAIN STATION KNOW
GOT STATION.
>> OKAY.
>> AS A MOTHER JUST TO HAVE
ALL OF THIS OUT OF YOUR
CONTROL. WITH THEM SOON. AND
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO BE
STRONG. THE FRAME OF THE
WINDOW ALL CAME RIGHT ON TOP
OF HER AND SHE SAID IT IS LEFT
HER DETERMINED BUT ALSO
INFURIATED GUY FURIOUS WITH
VLADIMIR PUTIN. THIS IS ONE OF
OUR FRIENDS. WE'VE BEEN
PLAYING SOCCER MORNING, BUT IT
JOYFUL TO SEE A CHILD WHO IS
SMILING AT LEAST HAVING A
LITTLE FUN. I LET YOU GO BACK
AND PLAY A LITTLE MORE SOCCER.
ALLISON, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SERIOUSLY FOR ALL YOU'RE DOING
WE WANT TO TALK A LOT MORE
ABOUT THIS.
>> NBC'S CAL PERRY JOINS US
AGAIN FROM THE VIVE NEAR THE
BORDER WITH POLAND. CALI DO
WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S
HAPPENING THERE ON THE GROUND.
BUT FIRST I SHOULD ASK YOU
ABOUT BEING A REPORTER
COVERING THE WAR IN UKRAINE.
WHAT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE
WHO'VE NEVER HAD TO DO THIS
WORK MIGHT NOT EXPECTS OR
MIGHT NOT THINK OF IN TERMS OF
WHAT IT TAKES TO COVER A WAR
LIKE THIS.
>> WHAT WE TALK A LOT ABOUT
THE SUPPLY LINES FOR SOLDIERS.
HOW ABOUT THE SUPPLY LINES FOR
I'M WORKING IN A HOTEL THAT
HAS POWER, WATER AND FOOD. BUT
IT ALSO HAS DOZENS OF PEOPLE
WHO ARE BEHIND THE CAMERA. YOU
DON'T SEE WHO RESPONSIBLE FOR
ORGANIZING. WHAT IS A
HERCULEAN EFFORT TO NOT JUST
KEEP US ON THE AIR. BUT TO
KEEP US FED AND TO KEEP US
HAVING WATER AND TO KEEP THE
POWER RUNNING IN CASE THE
POWER GOES OFF TO HAVE
GENERATORS AND HAVE FUEL AND
TO HAVE SECURITY AND SAFETY.
SO WHEN YOU SEE ME EVERY
NIGHT, WHAT YOU DON'T SEE ARE
THE DOZENS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE
HERE OFF CAMERA SUPPORTING THE
WORK THAT I'M DOING SUPPORTING
THE WORK THAT MY COLLEAGUE
RICHARD ANGLE IS DOING. ERIN
MCLAUGHLIN STANDING ON A
BALCONY WITH BOMBS DROPPING
AROUND HER MATT BRADLEY GOING
THROUGH A CHECKPOINT WHERE
SOLDIERS ARE VERY JITTERY. I'M
IN LVIV. I FEEL LIKE I'M I'M
IN A SAFE IS PLACE. THERE HAVE
BEEN AIR STRIKES. BUT AGAIN,
WE ARE INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL
HERE FOR THE POWER AND THE
WATER AND THE FOOD THAT WE
HAVE EVERY DAY KNOWING THAT MY
COLLEAGUES ARE OUT THERE ON
THESE FRONT LINES BEING
INCREDIBLY BRAVE. AND IN A IN
A SITUATION IS AS YOU WELL
LAID OUT WHERE REPORTERS ARE
DYING IN THE FIELD. SO I THINK
THAT WAS THE THING THAT
PROBABLY THE VIEWERS DON'T
KNOW IS JUST HOW MUCH EFFORT
IT TAKES ON BEHALF OF SO MANY
PEOPLE AT THIS NETWORK AND
THAT EVERY NETWORK TO KEEP US
ON THE AIR. HOW DO YOU MANAGE
YOUR SAFETY OUT THERE. I KNOW
THAT IN SOME WARS THERE ARE
PEOPLE WHO WALK AROUND WITH
VESTS THAT SAY PRESS ON THEM
SO THAT.
>> COMBATANTS WILL AT LEAST
KNOW THAT THESE REPORTERS AND
HOPEFULLY FOLLOW SOME KIND OF
INTERNATIONAL NORMS NOT TO
ATTACK OR KIDNAP REPORTERS,
BUT HOW DO YOU STAY SAFE IN A
PLACE LIKE THAT.
>> AND THAT'S A THAT'S A
TRICKY ONE. D. DO YOU IDENTIFY
YOURSELF AS MEDIA. DO YOU WEAR
A FLAK JACKET THAT SAYS PRESS
ON IT IN A PLACE WHERE THE IS
BEING TARGETED. I THINK THE
ATTACKS WE'VE SEEN ON THE
MEDIA SO FAR HAVE BEEN NATURE
OF WAR FOG OF WAR OR WHATEVER
YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
>> PEOPLE ARE VERY THEY'RE
CARED. IF THEIR UKRAINIAN
SOLDIERS, THEY'RE VERY, VERY
SCARED. THE REALITY IS THESE
RUSSIAN SOLDIERS ARE GOING TO
BE TERRIFIED AS WELL. THEY ARE
CLEARLY TARGETING CIVILIANS.
THEY'RE TARGETING AREAS WHERE
CIVILIANS ARE TRAVELING
THROUGH THERE. THEY'RE HITTING
THESE ROWS AND SO JOURNALISTS
ARE NATURALLY CAUGHT UP IN
THAT WE TAKE SECURITY AS
SERIOUSLY AS WE CAN TAKE IT.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT. WE TRY TO
MINIMIZE THE RISK. YOU YOU'RE
NEVER GOING TO REMOVE THE RISK
IN COMING TO A PLACE LIKE THAT
LIKE THIS. SO YOU DO THE BEST
YOU CAN TO MINIMIZE IT IN.
LVIV WERE ABLE TO MINIMIZE THE
RISK IN A WAY THAT RICHARD
ENGLE STANDING IN KIEV IS NOT
ABLE TO MINIMIZE THE RISK HIS
RISK ASSESSMENT IS ALWAYS
GOING TO BE HIGHER BECAUSE OF
WHERE HE IS. THAT'S JUST SORT
OF WHAT WE TRY TO DO. WE DO
ALSO BEHIND THE SCENES HAVE
SECURITY FOLKS WHO TRY TO LOOK
OUT FOR US. AND THAT'S AN
ADVANTAGE I HAVE TO THAT WE
HAVE HERE ON THE GROUND. I
SHOULD ASK YOU ABOUT THE
SITUATION IN UKRAINE BEFORE
AFTER LET YOU GO. PRESIDENT
ZELENSKY IS CALLING FOR PEACE
TALKS SAYING IT'S RUSSIA'S
ONLY CHANCE TO REDUCE THE
DAMAGE FROM WHAT HE DESCRIBED
HAS ITS OWN MISTAKES. WHAT'S
THE MOOD WHERE YOU ARE. THIS
DOES SEEM LIKE THIS IS GOING
TO GO ON INDEFINITELY OR IS
THERE ANY HOPE.
>> THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME
WAY TOO EITHER. FIND PEACE
CREATE A CEASE-FIRE TO DO
SOMETHING ABOUT ALL THIS. SO
WHEN JOSH, I THINK THE MOOD
PROBABLY THIS MORNING CHANGED
A LITTLE BIT.
>> IN THE CITY. I'M IN LVIV
BECAUSE OF THOSE AIRSTRIKES
THIS MORNING, 6 ROCKETS IN THE
DIRECTION THE AIRPORT FOR
ACTUALLY LANDED. IT WAS
SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WERE
ANTICIPATING. YOU HEARD IN
THAT REPORT EARLIER, WE KIND
OF IN OUR MINES HAVE A LIST OF
TARGETS THAT WE'RE AWARE OF.
AND OF COURSE, WE'RE NOT GOING
TO TALK ABOUT SO IT WASN'T A
SHOCK, BUT IT WAS CERTAINLY A
WIDENING OF THE WAR. THIS NEWS
ALINSKY ADDRESS IN THE LAST 2
HOURS. THE HEADLINE HAS TO BE
THE ONE YOU'RE ALLUDING TO. HE
SAYS IT IS TIME TO TALK. IT IS
TIME TO NEGOTIATE. HE IS
WALKING IMPOSSIBLE LINE WHERE
HE'S TRYING TO LOOK OUT AND
PROTECT A UKRAINIAN
SOVEREIGNTY TO PROTECT THE TO
KEEP RUSSIA OFF SOVEREIGN
UKRAINIAN LAND AT THE SAME
TIME HE NEEDS TO FIND A WAY TO
STOP THE FIGHTING, AT LEAST A
PAUSE. IT SO THAT THEY CAN GET
INTO THESE AREAS AND HELP THE
CIVILIANS WHO ARE TRAPPED IN
BASEMENTS. THE ONE NEGATIVE TO
THAT. WE'VE HEARD THIS FROM
UKRAINE OFFICIALS. THEY WORRY
THIS IS A STALLING TACTIC FROM
THE RUSSIANS THAT THE RUSSIANS
ARE ENGAGING IN PEACE TALKS SO
THAT THEY CAN REASSESS AND
THEY CAN REGROUP AND THEN THEY
CAN START ATTACKING AGAIN.
THAT'S THE CONCERN THAT HE HAS
IN NEGOTIATE DIRECTLY WITH
THEM, THOUGH. HE SAYS IT IS
TIME TO DO SO. JOSHUA.
>> AND VERY BRIEFLY COW. ONE
LAST QUICK QUESTION. HOW LONG
WILL YOU STAY IN UKRAINE HOW
CORRESPONDENTS COVERING A WAR
LIKE THIS KNOW WHEN IT'S TIME
TO ROTATE OUT AND COME BACK
HOME. SO IT'S TIME TO ROTATE
OUT IN MY HUMBLE OPINION WHEN
YOUR BRAIN KIND OF TURNS TO
JELLO AND YOU CANNOT DO THESE
LIVE SHOTS AND THE IN A
MEANINGFUL AND INTELLIGENT
FASHION. THAT'S USUALLY
SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 4, 6
>> PULLING THE CURTAIN BACK
BECAUSE YOU ASKED ME TO DO SO
I'M GOING TO TRY TO TIME IT
FOR MY KIDS EASTER BREAK.
WE'LL SEE IF THAT WORKS OUT.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS AND I
THINK I PROBABLY SPEAK FOR ALL
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THESE
VIDEOS. WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE
THE STORIES I'VE BEEN IN LVIV
NOW FOR A MONTH. I AND FALLING
SLOWLY IN LOVE WITH THE CITY.
I'M INVESTED IN IT. SO I WILL
STAY AS LONG AS I CAN. AND
THEN IF IF IT'S STILL GOING
ON, WE'LL TRY TO COME BACK
HERE. OF COURSE.
>> MEANINGFUL INTELLIGENT
WOULD BE QUITE AN
UNDERSTATEMENT FOR THE QUALITY
OF THE REPORTING YOU'VE
BROUGHT US THUS FAR COUNT,
PLEASE DO STAY SAFE AS BEST
YOU CAN. BUT NBC'S CAL PERRY
REPORTING FOR US AGAIN IN LVIV
UKRAINE. THANK YOU, SIR. STILL