THIRD PARTIES WILL DWARF THAT. >>> FOR YOUR VOTE 2018, WE
EXPECT A LOT OF MONEY FLOWING
INTO THE ELECTION.
ON TOP OF ARIZONA'S
CONGRESSIONAL RACES, ALL STATE
OFFICES INCLUDING GOVERNOR WILL
APPEAR ON THE BALLOT.
AS CHRISTOPHER CONOVER REPORTS,
THERE'S A NEW WAY TO TRACK
SPENDING FOR STATE RACES.
ALONK LONG WITH A RENEWED PUSH
TO REVEAL THE TRUE SOURCE OF
SOME DONATIONS.
SOME DONATIONS. >> Reporter: SOON TV AND
COMPUTER SCREENS WILL BE FILLED
WITH CAMPAIGN ADS, AND WE KNOW
WHO PAID FOR THEM.
>> I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE
BECAUSE I'VE SEEN WHAT WE NEED
TO DO.
TO DO. >> THOSE DOLLARS ARE EASY TO
TRACE.
TRACE. THEY'RE ON THE SECRETARY OF
STATE'S WEBSITE OR, FOR FEDERAL
CANDIDATES, THE FORTUNATELY
ELECTION COMMISSION'S WEBSITE.
BUT THOSE SITES CAN BE DIFFICULT
TO USE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE
TRYING TO CROSS-REFERENCE
DIFFERENT CAMPAIGNS OR DONORS.
ENTER SECRETARY OF STATE MICHELE
REAGAN'S NEW WEBSITE, SEE THE
MONEY.COM.
MONEY.COM. >> YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW
ANYTHING OR THE NAMES.
YOU CAN GET TO THE SAME PIECES
OF INFORMATION THROUGH MULTIPLE
DIFFERENT AVENUES ON SEE THE
MONEY.
MONEY. >> THE WEBSITE LETS USERS SEARCH
A NUMBER OF CATEGORIES,
BEGINNING WITH INDIVIDUALS LIKE
GOVERNOR DOUG DUCEY.
WHEN YOU CLICK ON HIS NAME, YOU
CAN SEE HIS DONORS.
YOU CAN CLICK ON THE DONORS AND
ALSO SEE WHO THEY GAVE TO.
BUT NOT ALL CAMPAIGN SPENDING IS
REPORTED.
REPORTED. SO-CALLED DARK MONEY COMES FROM
NONPROFIT GROUPS WHO ARE NOT
REQUIRED TO REPORT THEIR DONORS.
THE SEE THE MONEY WEBSITE TRIES
TO SHED A LITTLE LIGHT ON THOSE
DARK GROUPS.
DARK GROUPS. >> WE PULL IN FOR THE USER THE
IRS 990s OF THAT GROUP.
REMEMBER, THESE GROUPS HAVE TO
FILE SOMEWHERE, SO WHERE DO THEY
FILE?
FILE? THEY FILE WITH THE IRS.
NOW, THIS ISN'T AS DETAILED OF
INFORMATION AS SOME PEOPLE WOULD
LIKE, BUT IT GIVES YOU SOME
NAMES AND ADDRESSES.
>> DARK MONEY GROUPS SHOULD NOT
BE CONFUSED WITH POLITICAL
ACTION COMMITTEES.
ACTION COMMITTEES. THEY DO HAVE TO REPORT THEIR
CONTRIBUTORS.
CONTRIBUTORS. THE BATTLE AGAINST DARK MONEY IS
NOT EASY.
NOT EASY. >> I'M A PROSECUTOR.
I USED TO GO AFTER PEOPLE FOR
MONEY LAUNDERING.
MONEY LAUNDERING. AND THIS IS MONEY LAUNDERING.
IT'S LEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING, BUT
IT'S STILL MONEY LAUNDERING.
THEY'RE TRYING TO KEEP VOTERS
FROM KNOWING WHERE THE MONEY
COMES FROM.
COMES FROM. >> GODDARD IS BACKING A
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT THAT
WOULD OUTLAW HIDING
CONTRIBUTORS.
CONTRIBUTORS. >> AND I THINK WE'RE ENTITLED, I
THINK WE HAVE A RIGHT AS
CITIZENS TO KNOW WHO'S BEHIND A
CAMPAIGN.
CAMPAIGN. AND THAT TELLS YOU A LOT ABOUT
WHY THAT CAMPAIGN'S BEING RUN.
MAYBE IT'S A CORPORATE INTEREST
THAT WANTS TO PROMOTE A
PARTICULAR POLICY, AND THAT'S
WHY THEY SUPPORT THIS PARTICULAR
PERSON.
PERSON. WE NEED TO KNOW THAT.
MAYBE WE'LL BE FAVORABLE, AND
MAYBE WE WON'T.
BUT WE NEED TO KNOW THE FACTS.
>> FOUR YEARS AGO, GODDARD RAN
FOR SECRETARY OF STATE AND WAS
THE TARGET OF DARK MONEY ADS.
>> WE DON'T NEED OBAMA'S
POLICIES.
POLICIES. WE DON'T NEED TERRY GODDARD.
>> MOST DISCLOSURE REQUIRES YOU
TO SAY WHO WROTE THE LAST CHECK.
WELL IN THESE MONEY LAUNDERING
SCHEMES, ONE CHECK GOES TO
ANOTHER CORPORATION, GOES TO
ANOTHER ONE, GOES TO ANOTHER
ONE.
ONE. SO THE LAST CHECK IS ALMOST
IRRELEVANT.
IRRELEVANT. WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS FIND THE
CORPORATION THAT EARNED THE
MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THAT'S WHAT THIS INITIATIVE
PROPOSITION WOULD DO.
>> THAT SAME YEAR, MICHELE
REAGAN WAS A STATE SENATOR
CAMPAIGNING FOR SECRETARY OF
STATE.
STATE. SHE SPONSORED A BILL IN THE
LEGISLATURE TO BAN DARK MONEY.
IT WAS A BIPARTISAN EFFORT.
IT FAILED.
IT FAILED. SINCE THEN, AS SECRETARY OF
STATE, SHE HAS NOT TAKEN THAT
BATTLE UP AGAIN.
>> FIRST OF ALL, THE ABILITY TO
GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT THROUGH
THE LEGISLATURE, QUITE FRANKLY,
IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND THE SECOND THING IS THE WAY
WE HAD IT WRITTEN AND THE WAY
THAT THINGS COULD HAVE BEEN
CHANGED ON IT, FORCING PEOPLE TO
DISCLOSE THINGS THAT A FEDERAL
LAW SAYS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO
DISCLOSE, WE RAN INTO -- WE HAVE
A LOT OF ATTORNEYS IN THE ROOM
TRYING TO LET US KNOW THIS WAS
CONSTITUTIONAL.
CONSTITUTIONAL. >> THAT IS WHY REAGAN SAID SHE
HASN'T PUSHED DARK MONEY
LEGISLATION SINCE BECOMING
SECRETARY OF STATE.
>> I'M PARTNERING WITH MICHELE
REAGAN ON NOTHING.
IF SHE WANTS TO ENDORSE OUR
PROPOSITION, THAT'S FINE WITH
ME.
ME. >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> FRANKLY I DON'T THINK SHE
WILL.
WILL. SHE RECEIVED DARK MONEY IN HER
CAMPAIGN, AND SHE WAS THE
ARCHITECT OF THE LAWS THAT
BASICALLY LOOSENED UP THE
PROVISIONS THAT ALLOW THESE
PEOPLE TO DO EVEN MORE.
>> BUT THE FORMER ATTORNEY
GENERAL MIGHT BE SURPRISED TO
LEARN REAGAN MAY NOT BE THE
ENEMY IN THE CAMPAIGN.
>> YOU KNOW, MY PHILOSOPHY IS
THIS.
THIS. IF THAT GETS PASSED, IT'S MORE
INFORMATION FOR SEE THE MONEY
BECAUSE, AGAIN, SEE THE MONEY IS
AS POWERFUL AS THE INFORMATION
THAT'S BEING ENTERED INTO IT.
SO I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT
GIVEN A CHOICE BETWEEN
TRANSPARENCY/NO TRANSPARENCY,
TRANSPARENCY/NO TRANSPARENCY, TRANSPARENCY IS ALWAYS GOING TO
BE BETTER.
BE BETTER. >> THE SEE THE MONEY WEBSITE IS
STILL IN BETA TESTING AND
GODDARD'S PROPOSAL IS STILL
COLLECTING SIGNATURES.
COLLECTING SIGNATURES. >>> AND THAT'S ALL FOR NOW.
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