LET’S GET TO THAT CHAOS IN
EUROPE.
THEY’RE BRACING FOR MORE RIOTS
IN FRANCE THIS WEEKEND.
PARIS WILL BE VIRTUALLY SHUT
DOWN.
THE EIFFEL TOWER, CLOSED.
THE LOUEVRE, HOME OF THE MONA
LISA, CLOSED.
>>> NOW LOOK AT BRITAIN.
LOOKS LIKE THERESA MAY’S BREXIT
PLAN IS GOING TO FAIL.
THE EUROPEAN UNION.
THEY COULD, COULD, CRASH OUT OF
AS FOR ITALY, THEY’VE GOT A HUGE
BUDGET FIGHT WITH THE REST OF
THEIR EUROPEAN COMPATRIOTS.
>>> STEVE HILTON IS WITH US,
FORMER STRATEGY DIRECTOR FOR
PRIME MINISTER DAVID CAMERON.
IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE EUROPE IS
UNRAVELLING.
I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS
BEFORE, BUT TO ME, THE
UNRAVELLING PROCESS IS SPEEDING
UP.
WHAT DO YOU SAY?
>> I THINK THAT’S RIGHT.
I THINK FUNDAMENTALLY, FOR GOOD
IT’S REALLY COMING TO A HEAD BUT
I THINK FUNDAMENTALLY, FOR GOOD
REACTING TO IS BAD POLICY THAT
REASONS, BECAUSE WHAT PEOPLE ARE
FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, IN SOME
CASES DECADES, HAS HURT WORKING
PEOPLE, UNDERMINED THEIR ELECTED CASES DECADES, HAS HURT WORKING
PEOPLE, UNDERMINED THEIR ELECTED
DEMOCRACIES AND PEOPLE ARE
EXPRESSING THAT IN DIFFERENT
WAYS.
IF YOU TAKE IT ONE BY ONE, IN
THE UK, I KNOW THERE’S A
CONVENTIONAL WISDOM THAT IT’S A
PROBLEM IF THERESA MAY’S BREXIT CONVENTIONAL WISDOM THAT IT’S A
PROBLEM IF THERESA MAY’S BREXIT
DEAL GETS VOTED DOWN, WHICH
EVERYONE EXPECTS IT TO BE VOTED
DOWN.
ACTUALLY I THINK THAT’S NOT
CORRECT.
THE FACT IS THAT HER DEAL ISN’T
REALLY A DEAL, BECAUSE WHAT IT
ACTUALLY DOES IS POSTPONE
EVERYTHING.
IT DOESN’T SETTLE ANYTHING.
IT ACTUALLY GUARANTEES MORE
UNCERTAINTY, WHICH IS TERRIBLE
FOR BUSINESS, AND IT’S NOT EVEN
BREXIT, BECAUSE UNDER HER DEAL, FOR BUSINESS, AND IT’S NOT EVEN
BREXIT, BECAUSE UNDER HER DEAL,
THE EUROPEAN UNION STILL HAS
SOVEREIGNTY OVER KEY AREAS LIKE
PARTICULARLY IN RELATION TO THE SOVEREIGNTY OVER KEY AREAS LIKE
PARTICULARLY IN RELATION TO THE
SUPREMACY OF EUROPEAN LAW AND
OTHER AREAS.
SO IT’S VERY IMPORTANT THAT IT
IS VOTED DOWN.
STUART: OKAY.
HOLD ON A SECOND.
IF IT IS VOTED DOWN, AND I AGREE
WITH YOU, I THINK IT WILL BE, I IF IT IS VOTED DOWN, AND I AGREE
THINK THERE WILL BE A LOST
WITH YOU, I THINK IT WILL BE, I
THINK THERE WILL BE A LOT OF
FINANCIAL FALLOUT OVER HERE.
YOU WILL HAVE POLITICAL CHAOS IN
BRITAIN.
WE DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY WILL DO
NEXT.
WE DON’T KNOW WHO THE NEXT PRIME
MINISTER IS BECAUSE PRESUMABLY
IT’S NOT THERESA MAY.
WE DMONT
WE DON’T KNOW IF THEY WILL HAVE
A SECOND REFERENDUM.
THAT KIND OF UNCERTAINTY WILL
SURELY AFFECT US HERE.
>> IT IS, BUT I THINK IN THE
LONG TERM, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE
TO GO THROUGH THAT TO GET TO THE LONG TERM, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE
TO GO THROUGH THAT TO GET TO THE
RIGHT RESULT, WHICH IS THE
REFERENDUM RESULT THAT PEOPLE
VOTED FOR TWO YEARS AGO ACTUALLY
BEING DELIVERED, AND IN FACT,
ONE THING I HAVE ARGUED, I WAS
ACTUALLY OVER THERE ARGUING IT
JUST NOW, WHEN PEOPLE -- YOU
USED THE TERM CRASHING OUT.
THERE’S A SENSE THAT IF THERE
ISN’T A DEAL, SOMEHOW THAT’S BAD
NEWS.
I DON’T THINK THAT’S RIGHT.
I THINK THAT ACTUALLY, IF YOU
MAKE A CLEAR DECISION TO LEAVE
THE EUROPEAN UNION AS THE VOTERS
CALLED FOR, THEN SPEND TIME
PROPERLY PREPARING, PLUS TAKE
ACTION TO COUNTERACT DISRUPTION.
FOR EXAMPLE, TO CUT CORPORATION ACTION TO COUNTERACT DISRUPTION.
FOR EXAMPLE, TO CUT CORPORATION TAX, TO CUT REGULATIONS, TO MAKE
TAX, TO CUT REGULATIONS, TO MAKE
THE UK MORE ATTRACTIVE TO
INVESTORS AND BUSINESS, THEN YOU
CAN HELP OVERCOME THE DISRUPTION INVESTORS AND BUSINESS, THEN YOU
CAN HELP OVERCOME THE DISRUPTION
AND MAKE IT A POSITIVE STORY.
BUT THERE’S NO SIGN THAT YOU’VE
GOT A LEADER IN THE UK READY TO BUT THERE’S NO SIGN THAT YOU’VE
GOT A LEADER IN THE UK READY TO
DO ANY OF THAT.
THAT’S THE PROBLEM.
STUART: OKAY.
I’VE GOT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT
GOOGLE.
AS YOU KNOW, THEY ARE PREPARING
AND PLANNING A SEARCH ENGINE
JUST FOR CHINA WHICH WOULD ALLOW
THE CHINESE COMMUNIST
AUTHORITIES TO CENSOR EVERY
PERSON IN CHINA AND GO FIND
DISSIDENTS.
NOW, I THINK THAT’S A TERRIBLE
IDEA.
I KNOW YOU ARE CLOSELY CONNECTED
TO THE GOOGLES AND FACEBOOKS OF I KNOW YOU ARE CLOSELY CONNECTED
TO THE GOOGLES AND FACEBOOKS OF
SILICON VALLEY.
WHAT DO YOU SAY?
>> IT’S A COMPLETE OUTRAGE.
I HAVE ACTUALLY CALLED IT
ECONOMIC TREASON, BECAUSE WE
HAVE GOT TO UNDERSTAND THAT
CHINA IS NOT JUST ANOTHER PLAYER
IN THE GLOBAL ECONOMY.
IT IS OUR ENEMY.
IT HAS A STATED INTENTION TO
TOPPLE THE U.S. AS THE GLOBAL
SUPERPOWER AND IMPOSE ITS VALUES
ON THE WORLD.
THIS IS A REALLY SERIOUS ISSUE.
IT’S NOT JUST A QUESTION OF
DOING DEALS HERE AND THERE.
WHAT GOOGLE IS DOING IN THIS WAY
IS ACTUALLY HELPING TO ENTRENCH WHAT GOOGLE IS DOING IN THIS WAY
IS ACTUALLY HELPING TO ENTRENCH
THE AUTHORITARIANISM OF OUR
BIGGEST ENEMY.
IT’S GOT TO BE STOPPED.
STUART: GOOD.
I LIKE TO HEAR YOU GO STRAIGHT
AT IT, STEVE.
YOU DO IT EVERY TIME.