lines is that one? So, maybe it's some similar things, but
frame that a different way. This one comes from New York
lion. Actually Pete. The New York lion tweets. That says
this. You,
this is not me. No, yeah, that's true. I'd be
the Connecticut line. Yeah, what I don't see with Stroud and he
goes not his fault is tight window throws. I've never seen
guys, more wide open, wide receivers, and o-line were
the best in college football.
When things go wrong and he is under pressure, he is horrible.
Who out if Stroud switched places with will love as it
can. Chucky, what would the tape look like now? That is
something that is fascinating, that I've talked to you about
what if Bryce Eliza Kentucky? Yeah, will love us is over in.
Alabama. Me like will of his played the whole year at
Alabama? Yeah, you might be the
number one, or number two, you look better. You look better,
right? Who knows exactly how it would turn out Bill O'Brien
over there.
But what do you make of the point there that
that New York Lions trying to make? Well, first off, like if
Stroud played in Kentucky, it would be better than what Levis
looked like, okay, they don't have any doubt about that. So
that's the transition there, right there. I can make that
Go. No, there's no doubt. He's better than will levison. Every
category, every except for Pure arm power, and it's not that
less than, right?
So then
tight window throws.
Mike, listen, he had some people open for sure tight
window, like, I don't, you know,
watch the Michigan game, watch the Georgia game, watch
the Penn State game, I mean, see what I think people are not
like taking to account, is how easily and consistently, he
doesn't that you're just going. Oh yeah, 20 yard completion.
And I'm sitting there on film going. This guy is all over
this guy and he just puts it in there. Like it's nothing.
You remember the Michigan game? The go route down the right.
Sideline to Marvin Harrison jr. Yeah he's covered like Glue.
Yeah, it was glue
he threw the ball so far and so high that it allowed Marvin
Harrison Junior who was behind the defender to Now look up and
the defender is plays debe ver. Reason starts to choke and he
he puts it on the money,
you know, the fourth and two throat, a number eight against
Michigan, right? On the money guy, dropped it in the end zone
to number eight on the money. Drops it,
you know, middle down the middle cover to number eight
covered, like a blanket on the money. Drops it.
I don't, I don't agree with those sentiments,
you know it again the
there. Sure there's open, guys.
I know that they're good football team, but yeah, I saw
plenty tight window throws and then again
the pressure thing
where I don't understand
like was he not under pressure against Michigan and Georgia
with a that was not pressure to his, he horrible in those
games.
Damn, it was horrible.
I know there's only one game or You could say horrible and
that's Northwestern slap Fest
of like rain and wind and
impossible to play quarterback. That mean the only game, you
can even go. Whoa, that didn't look very good there. Yeah. And
you'd like you said some of those throws down the sideline
deep throws Tight Windows outside. The numbers were very
good and DJ
Holman saw that as well. So here is a
Defender right? Well I just I don't want to be but first
the New York like I don't want to be mean. They're I'm not trying
to be mean
I just I mean that's I don't, you know, I'm the That hates
the open throw guy
if it was, why do? But I'd go will
be buddies wide open all the time that was like concerned
with Baker Mayfield and all those type of pliers. So I'm
just letting you know, New York line. I saw way more than
enough of oh my gosh Bullseye into tight coverage type throws
and Chris doesn't hate you.
You don't, you don't hate New York client, how could you hate
Alliance? For course, you would never do that. We're just
pushing back on your, on your assessment DJ Holman. You're
probably going to agree with some of this, but this is
an interesting point, he makes. Yeah, he
goes Chris, have you? I've seen in college offense that ask
their quarterback to throw as many far hash out throws than
Stroud. Those are long froze. He goes further than the NFL.
Yeah and you don't do that unless you trust
the quarterback to have the arm
to make the arm and the decision maker know, right? The
decision maker goes into that too because a lot of guys are
going to go, I got the arm, I can do it, the quarterbacks in
a good, the coach is going to go. Yeah, but you thought you
could do it and he's running the other way for a pick six.
You through the 20 yard out route but you were a little
late and it's a Pick 6. So there has to be both of those
Is there
and yes, you're right, DJ Holman,
you're right in my assessment of that.
I mean, that's what blew me away.
It was just one big time NFL. Throw after another,
you know, you can go through certain parts of games and go
has he thrown a ball under five yards yet? Has he has? He had
thrown a screen yet? You know? Okay, here's a screen. Okay,
yeah. Well, of course they got some but then it's like
it seemed and post and in cut in 20 yard out, route and
10-yard out route from the far hash route and all Oh, that's
what blew me away. It was more than I remembered just watching
on TV,
so that is
again. I think we got a special thrower with a guy that's got
a pretty damn special mind and ability to see the field. That
is really damn good. CJ Stroud,
probably will go number one to the Carolina Panthers. I want
to be shocked if he doesn't, who knows concern over to
the Houston Texans, right, wherever he goes, probably in the top
two. Probably number one
that fan base is going to hope that he can Buck the trend and
here is, yeah sure. Umph.
Well, you're pointing to me, though. I like this question,
I'm just seeing him. I like this question of yours Shemp.
How many quarterbacks from Ohio State have become franchise
quarterbacks in the NFL Justin Fields may work out
but the jury is still out so that would be the warrior
Carolina Panther fans out there that he is just another one of
those failed. Ohio State. Quarterbacks like I get it but
I don't get it.
What's it got to do with Jack diddly? Squat
like what's it got to do? These are different humans. There's
your other people that came from different coaching staffs.
I mean, what's it got to do? Yeah, Pete says the same helmet
so ili, that's right. No, but I guess the idea is that
things were so easy for that were back.
Let me just so easy.
Yeah,
I mean listen they're they're going to be,
you know, they're Ohio state, they're
arguably, the greatest College organization in the history of
college football.
They always He's Got Talent there.
So yeah. And then, you know, does that lead to some
misleading of quarterbacks or miss a valued in because
they're winning in their yards are good, right? So people jump
onto that
but like, what is,
what is some of these other past quarterbacks who were
coached by different people have anything to do with sujay
Stroud? Let me ask you this, should we not?
They should have never drafted,
a quarterback out of Texas, Tech Kansas City. They should
have never done that. And we've never had one work. Why would
they Draft a quarterback at a Texas Tech. Yeah. None of them
work and that quarterbacks named
Patrick Mahomes, right. And we can go down the list of guys
like that. Where, you know, you shouldn't do that. Yeah, but
they got him right. You should never draft a quarterback from
Oregon.
I've never seen one work.
Never Mariota, was a bust, Joey Harrington
bust for your Lions.
Bust after Busta. Oh,
what? Justin Herbert? No, we shouldn't have dropped them
because of the guy that was drafted, 30 years ago, we
shouldn't draft this guy. I now that that's that's all I'm
saying.
So I'm going to look here
at some quarterback. So here are some,
they are there have a quarterback like this. So
here's the deal though, are there some quarterbacks here
that you thought were going to be good? That weren't for. So
you had to roll prior. They're obviously Justin Fields,
Dwayne Haskins Haskins, I thought I'd a chance cardale
Jones, ya know.
Okay. No. You know you're missing a
we're missing
art schlichter in 1982. Are ya archly stir right? Right.
Feel like we're missing one. Other one. But wasn't
a first-round pick or whatever. But Bobby hoeing. Bobby I'm
playing Craig krenzel and won the National Championship all
those. Yeah, okay. Then I know
there's no Superstar quarterback to come out of
the storied franchise or the storied College of
Ohio State, it's rare,
but maybe this is guy that bucks to try Diana. You know, again,
this is one guy that I got less questions about or anything
that I've done, I've seen from quarterbacks here and recent
history. So yeah, I'm a pretty big fan, but yeah, don't couple
that all together, that doesn't mean, don't make him pay for
the sins of former
Ohio State, quarterback mean, hey, I mean, yeah, you know,
Dwayne Haskins, I was Urban Meyer, CJ Stroud's running,
a little bit of a different offense. In Justin Fields was
running to, they, they expanded, they did more, they
did more than the drop back pass game than
Then Justin Fields had so
you know yeah. You I don't think you can just say
a statement like that and it come true but Tom Tupa.
Yeah, their boss.