- Ladies (laughing)
and gentlemen right here we have the I9-9900K
and we're gonna be comparing it against the I7-8700K.
And also the Ryzen 7-2700X with both stock
and overclocked numbers to figure out what would
be the best purchasing decision for you.
Now we're gonna be doing gaming, productivity
and streaming benchmarks as well as testing
the temperatures and thermals of
this new eight-Core 16-threaded CPU from Intel
to see just how it stacks up against the competition.
That being their own CPU as well.
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Welcome back to Tech Yes City this is Bryan
coming to you guys today with the test bed figures.
First of all we have an RTX2080TI from Asus,
this's the Strix ROG Edition, one beast of a kind,
then we're coupling that with 16 gigabytes
in dual channel mode of DDR4 memory
with seal 14 timings with 3200 megahertz
across all three different CPUs.
We're using these same ASRock variants
across the different motherboard lines,
we're using the Taichi Ultimate for the Z390.
The I7-8700K is tested on the gaming professional,
ASRock Z370 motherboard and then the Ryzen 7-2700K
is tested on the ASRock X470 Taichi.
And lastly for cooling, we tested
with the same cooling solution
that is the H100I Pro from Corsair.
And with that aside, let's bring up
the gaming benchmarks first.
We've got here Dota Two, 1080P Lower Settings.
Here we're gonna be stressing the CPU,
but also gonna be throwing up some 1440P
ultra numbers as well to see that difference
minimalize as you go up in resolutions.
And at this resolution we saw that the 9900K
and also the 8700K were neck-and-neck
once they were overclocked.
And here's the biggest difference with the 9900K
compared to the two other CPUs.
And that is out of the box, it's pretty much going near max.
This thing is aggressively clocked even in the bias.
I'm turning off multi-core enhancement
and it just seems to have some very aggressive
turbo settings that pretty much take it
to 4.7gigahertz, out of the box.
For eight-cores 16-threads that's very aggressive.
So basically the catch of this whole review is,
this CPU is going to be great if you don't know how
to overclock and you wanna go and buy a good motherboard,
good cooling solution and just call it a day.
However, that said, we can see the 8700K
is kicking it hard in a lot of these benchmarks
at five gigahertz, same with the Ryzen 2700X
with its 4.2 gigahertz
and it's value proposition at 1440P.
The numbers really start closing the gaps here
between these three CPUs.
And this is with the RTX2080TI, pretty much
the best graphics card you can get
for gaming at the moment.
Moving across the Rainbow Six Siege, we saw here
at 1080P the lowest settings, the 9900K and the 8700K.
We're coming out a little bit ahead of the Ryzen 7-2700X.
However it is important to note that the monitors used
for gaming at the moment, the max that I know of
is 240 Hertz, so all three of these CPUs
are still giving average FPS above these numbers.
So unless you are an absolute big-ticket item player
out there and you're going for massive prizes
then the differences really aren't gonna be
that much in actual real world input delay
with these three CPUs.
However, the ring bus does have its advantages.
If you wanna check out a video on that I'll put it up here.
However moving over to the 1440P numbers
for Rainbow Six Siege, see that the gap does close
and it's all above 144 Hertz which is popular
for 1440P monitors especially for competitive gamers.
And then we move out to Assassins Creed Origins,
we saw both the Intel's scoring a little bit
ahead of the Ryzen 7-2700X.
And then moving on to 1440P, what we had here
was a gap closing yet again and of course
if we take it to 4K, the gaps gonna close even more.
And now on to Grand Theft Auto Five,
1080P lower settings that I could dial in here
to stress that CPU out.
We saw that the Intel's both the 8700K and the 9900K
were actually breaking this engine
to the point where 1%, 0.1% lows were giving out
some stuttering in certain cases of the benchmarks
and since we do average these benchmarks,
we do get a lower .1 and 1% low than that
of the 2700X which was running smoother
because it wasn't breaking the engine.
1440P saw max settings all three of these CPUs scoring
very similar numbers and it was a smooth experience.
Brian flat mid review.
(sipping)
This is why I got the tea here
because the tea just calms me down
let's all the data come back into my,
I'd say it's about a 10 terabyte hard drive up here
and this is sort of reworking at the moment.
And on to Counter Strike Global Offensive,
here we had 1080P lowest settings
on this Community Made Benchmark,
showed that the 9900K was coming out ahead
of the 8700K but it didn't come out a whole lot,
like I was surprised to see that it wasn't coming
out a massive amount especially at five gigahertz.
These stock 4.4 gigahertz however was behind considerably,
and then the Ryzen 2700X was falling behind too
in this benchmark.
But we do have to note that the FPS numbers
are still very high.
All three of these CPUs will be great
for gaming on this competitively.
Moving up to 1440P max settings.
So these gaps close yet again like all the other games,
however there was still a pronounced difference
with the 9900K.
And then moving over to call
of duty Black Ops Four Blackout.
This is the Battle Royale, I'm actually really enjoying
this game and they've actually boosted
all the FPS caps in multi-player now.
So there's unlimited FPS which was great,
just in time for this review.
And we saw the numbers here showing that the 9900K
was coming out of top, the 8700K was very close,
it was a neck-and-neck battle and the Ryzen 2700X
was still getting very good FPS.
But when we move over to the streaming benchmarks,
this is the game that I decided to test the streaming on
with the stream labs.
I absolutely love this, I fell in love with
this streaming application and we saw here
that the out of the box settings
were six megabits per second off the CPU encoding,
so that the 9900K was then able to spread
its wings over the 8700K.
That's probably the only time in these gaming benchmarks
especially when we're looking at overclocked
versus overclocked where that CPU came out ahead.
The 2700X did very well when it came to streaming.
And then move over to 1440P with this game,
with the max settings, saw that there
was still little bit of a difference
but the gap again was closing.
So there's a gaming benchmarks done and dusted.
And what we saw here was the 9900K,
it's very aggressively clocked out of the box.
So if you're not into overclocking and you want
the best FPS possible then this CPU
is definitely gonna give that.
However, the 8700K at five gigahertz in my opinion
is still the money shot even for competitive gamers
who need the best FPS.
And when it comes to streaming,
I always recommend people utilize their GPU if possible
because the money you spend on a GPU
with its GPU compute power versus CPUs is a lot more.
So if you can utilize that, then you're definitely gonna
be saving money specially when it comes to utilizing
the 8700K and it's five gigahertz overclock.
2700X it does very well in gaming,
if you're a competitive gamer, you still gonna
get a fantastic experience out of this CPU.
This is really getting into that territory
of paying the premium for these CPUs and getting
that little bit extra and we'll talk
about the pricing later.
But let's move over now to some productivity benchmarks.
And first up we had Adobe Premiere Pro.
This is now utilizing Intel CPUs very well
and the 9900K was coming out on top here.
The 8700K and the 2700X we're kind of coming
in the same ballpark here.
And this is a 4K 30-minute video file rendered
at 25 megabits per second which is what I
usually do in my workflow.
So the 9900K would be the best, however people
have said, "You can use the HD encoder."
Which will save you even more time,
I'm yet to experiment with it because honestly
my workflow is absolutely fine
and I'm using a 1680V-2 in my main workstation.
But onto Seven Zip.
This is a decompression and compression benchmark.
Here we saw the 9900K actually trading blows
with the Ryzen 2700X when it came to decompressing.
When it came to compressing it was coming out on top.
The 8700K was kind of coming close
to the Ryzen 2700X here,
but then decompressing Ryzen 2700X
definitely took the cake.
Moving over to V Ray, a CPU Simulated benchmark
utilizing all cores, all threads and the 9900K
was coming out on top and then the followed
by the 2700X and then the 8700K.
Moving over to Presonus Studio One, a music benchmark
for your music audio files out there.
People who love making music, making the Yesman Mixdown.
We saw the 9900K did the best here and then followed
by the Ryzen 2700X and then also the 8700K.
And then move over to Cinebench, the simulated benchmark
that always comes into every single review
that pretty much everyone does nowadays.
We saw the 9900K coming out on top
and you can just see how aggressive this CPU
is clocked out of the box.
Using my custom overclock settings I could barely
get any more out of the H100I Pro.
Then we saw the Ryzen 2700X coming in
with a great value proposition.
Then the 8700K coming in
with the best single threaded score.
So I guess this sort of sums it up in general
what these three CPUs are all about.
And that is the 8700K at five gigahertz
still gets up in boogies and what we're gonna do is
we're gonna relate the power consumption figures
right after this cause it is pretty important.
The I9-9900K was juicing a considerable amount
more power than both the two counterparts here,
to the point where I was kind of surprised
maybe the bias needs a bit of an update,
some tuning needs to happen
and I guess at more micro level because
the temperatures were also pretty damn high
I was surprised.
Out of the box this thing was just going
over 100 degrees and then we looked
at the overclock numbers, that were going
near 115 degrees and even after 15 minutes
of I264 it was actually thermal throttling.
So I was lucky I was able to get the benchmarks done.
But with that said, they've raised the TJ max
on this CPU now to 115 degrees,
that's the new safety limit.
Previously it was 105 degrees on the 8700K I believe
and then on the Ryzen 2700X I believe it's 95 degrees.
And so what we're seeing here is something
that demands a big cooler, if you're gonna go
with the 9900K make sure you get something very big
for this, I'd say a 360 mil all in one
or a custom 280 mil cooler would be a prerequisite
as we're using a 240 mil here today.
And although it's not getting overloaded,
it's not getting hot, it's just that base plate,
is not big enough to absorb that initial heat.
And yes they are using a solder between the die
and the IHS this time around, but the problem
is I still managed to deal with the CPU
and that's gonna be a separate video on its own,
so stay tuned for those results.
But now moving over to Fire Strike, we saw here
with the CPU physics scores, the 8700K
was sort of trading blows with the Ryzen 2700X.
9900K again coming out on top with its
both out-of-the-box aggressive settings
and its stock settings.
But in my opinion the 8700K with six-cores, 12-threads
was doing very well in this benchmark
and it just shows you when it comes to gaming,
I still think the six-cores, 12-threads,
higher clock speeds is the most relevant choice.
But that about wraps it up for the benchmarks.
In the last of the new graph that I'm gonna show
you guys here is the pricing in Australia.
This thing is going for well over $850 currently
and then in the U.S. it's going for about 530 US,
and we see compared to the Ryzen 2700X
and even the 8700K, it is a league above
these two CPUs in terms of pricing and keep in mind
that we'll use more heat, so in general
we'll need a bigger cooler, also need a bigger
power supply and then you've got the premium
of the Z390 motherboards now that do
have their better hardware on board compared
to Z370s and also X470 motherboards.
So we're left in a state where
this is a premium product
but it's definitely adding a premium
not just on the CPU costs
but all the other augmented costs involved.
So that's something you've got to look at with this CPU.
How much do you want it?
And are you prepared to pay the premium?
When it comes to gaming and that's all you do
and you want that flagship CPU
then the 8700K clocked to five gigahertz
is still going to be my recommendation
coming out of this.
The 9900K is only gonna get a recommendation
for gaming if you have a lot of money
and you don't like overclocking
and you don't have the time.
All you wanna do is go out and buy a massive cooler,
good motherboard and the 9900K and have happy days.
Also when it comes to productivity, it is a ring bus CPU
and it is doing better than the 8700K.
So if you do need to save time and you
are a professional video editor
or you do other productivity work
that involves needing those extra two-cores four-threads
of ring bus then the 9900K will deliver.
But again depends on how much time saved verse
that extra costs are you willing to pay.
Of course the Ryzen 2700X here being the value star,
it is a king of value through and through.
I like this CPU a lot because one thing
we haven't talked about yet is that both these CPUs here,
the Intel counterparts don't come with coolers included.
The Ryzen 2700X at its lowest price point out
of these three CPUs does come
with the included RGB prism cooler
which does not only look really good
but it also cools really well,
getting the CPU out of the box up to four gigahertz
on all cores threads, no problems
with the included cooler.
Also I'm not introducing the mesh architecture chips
into the equation nor am I introducing thread ripper
into these comparisons here today
because I do believe they introduced more latency
at a base level but this is something a lot of reviewers
are testing at the moment.
I'm only touching base on this,
so what we've got here is the best latency chips
from both Intel and AMD on the bench.
So in a nutshell value king, gaming king,
king of everything with a considerable premium attached.
And that's about it for today, if you guys enjoyed
this review then be sure to hit that like button
and let us know in the comment section below,
what you think of the new I9-9900K.
I'm also gonna be doing two separate videos
with the 9900K versus the 2700X specifically
cause I feel like there's a lot
more talking points than just today's video,
then I'll also be comparing it just
against the 8700K with talking points
of their own and then of course stay tuned
for the big one where we're gonna
be testing 9900K versus 2700X
versus the older Xeon
where I'm gonna be doing a lot more
in depth tests for you guys (sighing) .
And that's the wrap, catch you
in another Tech video very soon.
Please out for now, bye.
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