[MUSIC PLAYING]
In Rome you guys have your last supper.
We'll call it the last supper.
Ugh.
Well, Jesus needed to be there, let me tell you.
DENISE RICHARDS: There's so much judgment in this group.
[MUSIC PLAYING]
Every single [BLEEP] dinner, I have
been on the receiving end of what feels like being attacked
as soon as we sit down.
And that is not [BLEEP] cool.
Completely shocked, you know, because we have been in the car
all together and we're laughing and telling
stories about our kids.
It just-- it was out of left field for me, like, completely.
I mean, I guess she got maybe her tables
speaking skills from Aaron.
Because it was like a thesis paper she was reading to us.
My husband did not want me to go on this trip.
[MUSIC PLAYING]
He had a feeling, and he was right.
When you kept asking me, be honest, be honest-- anytime
I was, no one believed me.
When things are brought out into the open
and put out there, they have to be addressed in this group.
It's-- - They do not.
So I just let her go through her speech
that she worked on all night because, for me,
from my perspective, I certainly wasn't and never say,
"Do you not let anybody talk?"
Do you realize you don't let some people talk?
So I was like, go and read your speech.
I mean, she also had started that-- her speech with,
you know, "I was looking forward to coming
to Rome and having fun.
But this is the worst trip I've ever been on in my life."
DENISE RICHARDS: I have to say this because this has
been probably the worst trip I've
ever been on in my entire life.
That is the truth.
Like, that's a really strong statement to make when
we did have some fun times.
It was just the dinners maybe went a little left.
It had a little jab in there, too.
DENISE RICHARDS: It has gotten to the point--
this is the God's honest truth--
where it is mean girls.
[MUSIC PLAYING]
I don't think we're mean girls.
I think that we're opinionated women.
And I think that we are here to tell our side
of the story, how we see it.
For me, and I had--
I had been defending Denise.
And when Denise had said that, I just felt that, you know,
that's not--
it's not fair or accurate portrayal.
I don't believe that anybody is a mean girl in our group
or is set out with that intention.
And I can say that, you know, aside
from any of the other accusations
or what I believe or don't believe,
I think that that was the really wrong way to approach it.
It's a really bad misconception
of all of these women.
Can-- can we each have a mean moment?
Yes.
I mean, we're-- we're women.
That's what we do.
We're not that nice sometimes.
But 99% of the time we are there to chit chat,
have fun, get to know each other better, come from a good place.
This is not a gang up situation.
I disagree with that wholeheartedly, 100%.
It's not a group of mean girls.
Really, by that point, we were just in a lose-lose situation.
Because if we say anything we're not letting it go.
but if we don't say anything we're just letting
you come after our character--
Exactly.
TEDDI MELLENCAMP ARROYAVE: --and we're mean and say, you know,
all those types of things.
And you see us all just kind of, like,
staring at her as she's saying it,
like, you're the one that wanted to drop
it and not talk about it again.
But now that you're prepared-- it took you four nights
or however many nights.
Now you want us to let you perfectly, you know,
give your speech.
And, really, you're not addressing any
of the issues we've ever had.
And I'd already been enough of a [BLEEP] talking [BLEEP] anyway.
You are a [BLEEP].
So I was just quiet, anyway.
[LAUGHS]
I think that she's setting herself up to be,
like, she was the victim of the mean girls.
That-- I think that's what she's setting up.
I think that those are words that people
like to assign to us.
So, yes, it's convenient speech.
And it's a great way to label.
I don't think, in the long run, it serves her or anyone
else, quite honestly.
Because next year she could be labeled a mean girl, as well.
[MUSIC PLAYING]
INTERVIEWER: So Denise walks away from the conversation,
and then she comes back a few moments later.
ERIKA GIRARDI: You know what?
But she makes choices, too.
We got to listen.
And, no, it's not easy.
You guys--
Thank you for coming back.
Yay!
I want to move past this.
I don't want to also leave you. - Oh.
--behind.
DORIT KEMSLEY: Sweetheart, listen!
Don't worry. Thank you.
DORIT KEMSLEY: Listen! Thank you for coming back.
DENISE RICHARDS: You're welcome.
Do you think that when she did come back to the table
she was prepared to listen to what everyone else had to say?
No.
I think, at that point, it was probably
coming back with the hopes that the conversation was over.
You know, it was our last night.
We had had a couple of dinners where the conversation--
the focal point of the evening was that conversation.
So maybe when she came back it was, you know, in an-- in an--
in an effort to finish the evening with us
but not finish the conversation.
Probably it was better for her to come back and try
to, you know, wrap it up then just leave it open ended,
yet again.
This would be maybe the third or fourth
time that she had walked out. DENISE RICHARDS: I am leaving--
Denise, don't leave.
DENISE RICHARDS: --because you guys
are crossing the [BLEEP] line. I'm leaving.
Honestly-- DORIT KEMSLEY: No.
Denise, please don't go. - No.
I'm done. AARON PHYPERS: It's ridiculous.
It was nice to see-- DORIT KEMSLEY: But-- but-- no.
I understand. - No, we're done.
- Are we done? - I don't care.
I'm actually going to go.
I've said everything I had to say.
I'm done. - Denise.
Denise-- DENISE RICHARDS: No, I'm done.
- --don't go. - No.
I'm-- I am.
It's-- honestly, this is--
it's OK.
LISA RINNA: I really don't want you to go.
So, you know, it-- it is in her best interest to come
back into the room and try to wrap up,
you know, the conversation.
And there you have it.
I mean, Garcelle started crying.
I was like, lord, mercy.
We are-- it was just--
it was a tough trip.
But then we started laughing and having fun.
And that's what made me happy that Denise
decided to come back.
Because that's how it goes.
Like, you can have something and it's very tense
and it might not be fun to deal with, but you deal with it.
And then, all of a sudden you're laughing and you're having fun.
And we're-- and we're close again.
And so I was really glad she stayed.
It felt like, when we were all sharing those stories--
Craziest place you've ever had sex.
TEDDI MELLENCAMP ARROYAVE: Hospital.
Hospital?
I-- that was my answer!
Like, we were putting our best foot forward
to try to make light and have fun during a situation
that wasn't fun in the moment.
Well, when she went to leave, she was once again
walking out of a situation.
And then she came back in, and then
it-- it felt very much like, OK, we're
going to try to turn this around and have fun because we flew
all the way to Italy, here.
But in leaving there, you kind of thought, I mean,
there's a chance we may not see her again.
Because it felt like she was sort of, like, just
wanting to flee and disappear.
[MUSIC PLAYING]
INTERVIEWER: At the final dinner,
you kind of lighten the mood and play a little game.
Can I ask a question?
Craziest waste you've ever had sex.
A church parking lot.
[GASPS]
[LAUGHTER]
Holy [BLEEP].
No wonder you kind of get into the Vatican today.
[LAUGHTER]
I swear to the good lord up above, these--
I don't understand why they are so all consumed with sex.
Me think they doth protest too much.
There's something wrong with these people.
I would rather go for the most romantic place.
Oh, shut up, Sutton!
Oh, girl, shut up. Come on!
It's still good.
Avignon in France, like, outside in sleeping bags
without a tent.
You know, campground.
That was really maybe the craziest--
[LAUGHS] that was the truth.
I didn't say what I did in the sleeping bag.
I'm sorry that I didn't, like, have sex at a table
in front of other people.
I mean, you know, I-- that's just not my personality.
Kyle?
At a table with 10 people at a black tie event.
- What? - What?
TEDDI MELLENCAMP ARROYAVE: While everybody was there?
DENISE RICHARDS: Were other people there?
- What? - Nobody knew.
I can't-- anyway--
I-- I am literally losing sleep over this episode.
OK?
So embarrassing.
Why did I open my mouth?
INTERVIEWER: Teddi, what happened in the hospital?
Ugh.
Floozy.
TEDDI MELLENCAMP ARROYAVE: Hospital.
Hospital?
I-- that was my answer.
GARCELLE BEAUVAIS: You win.
DORIT KEMSLEY: What?
So, I mean, thankfully this is Edwin.
So at least, like, I'm not having a--
It takes two people, Teddi.
Well, I got--
I don't know.
Anyways, we ended up in the hospital and we start having S.
And we get kicked out and it's a whole big thing.
S. [LAUGHS]
And I'm still paying off-- like, I--
honestly, it took me, like, 10 years
to pay off that hospital bill.
[LAUGHS]
Wait, Teddi, are we still calling it S?
Yes, we are.
We are calling it that.
Why do-- why do we call it S?
For the same reason I say potty.
I just have to go potty really quick.
[LAUGHTER]
I got killed for that one, as well.
You know you're a mom when you go in your friend's house
and say you can go potty.
We all say potty.
[LAUGHTER]
But I don't say S.
I still don't fully understand yours, by the way, Kyle.
I need more--
I don't want to talk about Jenny.
OK? - [LAUGHS]
What kind of a friend are you?
I-- I'm quitting the show.
I'm out.
Bye!
Oh, my-- my laptop's dying.
Bye!
[LAUGHTER]
[MUSIC PLAYING]
INTERVIEWER: So what was your reaction when you
heard you were going to Rome?
Yes!
[LAUGHS] Rom!
Like, I mean, my god, finally.
I've been wanting to go to Italy for so long.
Dorit, how long have we been saying this?
Oh, so long.
You know, you've got everything you could possibly
need in Italy-- great food--
[ITALIAN MUSIC]
I've never had a pizza like this, honey.
[LAUGHTER]
--you know, the beautiful surroundings--
DORIT KEMSLEY: It's just hard not
to keep looking where we are.
KYLE RICHARDS: I know!
ERIKA GIRARDI: Fashion--
I love it.
I got a patent hologram bomber.
It's the whole package.
I mean, the only thing I could really do was eat.
[LAUGHTER]
So, I mean--
There's no better place to do it.
I was like, you know what?
Of all the times to go to Rome, now is perfect.
Because I am pregnant, I can eat whatever I want,
as much as I want.
There was one day where, like, none of the activities
suited a seven--
seven or eight month pregnant person.
So I got to just, like, kind of explore the city
and go on a walk.
And, well, actually I ran into Dorit's glam.
So I had company.
[LAUGHTER]
That's funny.
INTERVIEWER: Kyle, you and Dorit saw the city a different way.
DORIT KEMSLEY: Andiamo!
[LAUGHS]
DORIT KEMSLEY: Andiamo!
[HORNS BEEPING]
Woo!
Teddi didn't get to-- can you picture of Teddi
pregnant on a Vespa?
Well, I-- the-- the Vespa ride was
hilarious because Dorit and I were so hung over we
wanted to die.
Oh, my god.
Last night was another hot mess.
Ow!
[LAUGHTER]
[CHATTER]
It was-- it was so brutal.
We were like-- we could barely function.
So when we got there, I could not stop laughing.
I mean, Dorit, who is like-- takes so much pride in,
like, looking her best and putting her things together--
they put that thing on her head.
[LAUGHS] I'm telling you right now--
hold on.
I need this picture for LIsa Rinna.
Are you [BLEEP] kidding me?
KYLE RICHARDS: [LAUGHS] And they kept trying to explain to us,
you know, the safety measures to us.
And all we could do was cry laughing.
Can you see what you look like in this?
Oh, my god.
[LAUGHTER]
I think I actually peed my pants.
[LAUGHS] They had to think we were on something, for sure.
[LAUGHTER]
But weren't-- you guys weren't even driving the Vespas.
Weren't you in, like, sidecars?
KYLE RICHARDS: Yes.
[LAUGHTER]
I-- we looked so ridiculous.
That was the funniest part.
Kyle and I are in these sidecars
and we look like little miniature-- miniature
versions of ourselves. - It looked funny.
But it's moments like that, you know,
when we go on these trips, that are really fun.
And, you know, Yavir, who set up the camera here today,
you know, he's been on the show since day one.
And he was on the back of a Vespa,
like, with the camera so heavy.
And I was like, ah, Yavir!
You're going to fall off!
So it's like, I don't know, just like--
just making great and fun memories,
you know, moments like that.
And plus, I mean, the shopping in Italy-- let's be honest.
It's really, really amazing shopping in Italy.
I'm not-- I like nice clothes but I don't like--
I'm not a huge shopper.
But watching Kyle in her crazed--
like, I'm not going to shop.
But then is like--
[LAUGHS]
TEDDI MELLENCAMP ARROYAVE: --grabbing
at things like somebody else is coming behind her to get them.
I mean, those were funny.
That's why you travel.
That's why you do these things.
You know, you create memories. , And I mean, it's--
you'll take those forever.
I mean, they will be forever memories.
[MUSIC PLAYING]
INTERVIEWER: So, Teddi, it seems like you
opted for more relaxing activities
when you were in Rome.
[MUSIC PLAYING]
[PHONE RINGING]
ERIKA GIRARDI (ON PHONE) Hello there.
TEDDI MELLENCAMP ARROYAVE: I just called down to the spa
and they could give us treatments.
Do you want to go? ERIKA GIRARDI (ON PHONE): Yes.
Yes, please.
INTERVIEWER: What was it like filming during your pregnancy?
You know, I think it's hard because we didn't really
see any of the beginning of me finding out that I was
pregnant, my going to my doctors appointments,
me telling the kids, even telling Kyle the first time.
Kyle cried when I told her.
So I really did feel a lot of support.
I mean, I know that we're joking about it.
Come sit with me.
Well, I got to find the one that's high enough for myself.
Can't even figure out how to get down.
I pretty much figured out quickly
we are just going to proceed in this friend group
as if I am not pregnant.
Teddi, would you like some--
[BLEEP] Hold on.
You can't eat the sushi and you can't drink the drinks.
Want some water? I have water.
Water is perfect. ERIKA GIRARDI: Water.
I decided to take a pregnant person to a wine
tasting trip on a bike.
[LAUGHTER]
LISA RINNA: That's a great idea, Kyle.
There we go.
Like, OK, now we're going wine tasting.
Let's do all these, like, crazy things.
In Rome, there was, like, very few things that I could do.
So I'd like to do toast.
Oh, I don't want to--
I can't toast, but--
DENISE RICHARDS: Oh, right.
Cheers.
But behind the scenes, like, and, you know,
as we're sitting down to dinner, everybody was always
kind of checking in on me.
I mean, you're traveling.
When we travel, you know, often, you know, we'll arrive there.
You've flown, like, 13 hours.
You're exhausted.
You feel disgusting and you're, like, literally going shopping.
And you look at your watch, you're like, it's 4:00
AM LA time for me right now.
And Teddi would be out there, looking gorgeous, and just--
- I mean-- - --energy and everything.
It was pretty impressive, I will tell you.
There was one time that somebody did
say to me, you can't wear that.
You got-- come on.
You got to pull it together today.
And I was like, I can't!
[LAUGHS] I don't know-
I think that's when you were wearing a onesie.
[LAUGHS]
I was wearing a onesie!
And they were like, please, honestly change.
KYLE RICHARDS: [LAUGHS] - I'm like, I can't.
I'm uncomfortable.
Like, even my underwear line hurts me.
[LAUGHS]
[MUSIC PLAYING]
INTERVIEWER: Denise swears she's never
said anything about you to Brandi,
and there was a pretty strong reaction.
- Well, no. - I never said that about you.
No.
I swear on my mother's grave. GARCELLE BEAUVAIS: Oh, my god.
We're going that far? LISA RINNA: Don't do that.
DENISE RICHARDS: No!
GARCELLE BEAUVAIS: We don't need to go that far.
Please don't do it. DENISE RICHARDS: No.
I am. I am.
ERIKA GIRARDI: Ooh, I don't like--
Don't say that.
I think when you swear on somebody in your life's life,
it's not--
not ideal.
For me, by night two when she was saying other--
somebody else in the group had sex with Brandi and--
I was already kind of checked out from what she was saying.
I-- I no longer was believing really anything she was saying.
Because night one, she could have just put a stop to it
and said Brandi and I's personal relationship
has nothing to do with you guys.
This is what we need to focus--
you know, whatever.
That-- that conversation would have been done.
But she's just doubling down and obsessing over that portion,
and now bringing up whatever she can.
I was kind of just like, whatever-- say whatever
you want, at this point.
Again, I'm believing Denise.
Like, I am team Denise right now.
I am totally believing her.
I see no reason why we should be believing
Brandi, who is not even there.
And-- and it's hearsay, and just, you know,
I don't like to convict someone of something
until all of the evidence is there.
So I thought, you know, if Denise
is telling us she didn't do this,
why wouldn't I believe my friend?
That's where my head is in Rome, 100%.
[MUSIC PLAYING]
INTERVIEWER: After dinner, Garcelle brings up Rinna's
social media and body image.
Do you think that your body image affected
your daughter in any way?
[MUSIC PLAYING]
LISA RINNA: [BLEEP]
DORIT KEMSLEY: So you mean, like,
the dancing Instagram videos?
GARCELLE BEAUVAIS: Dancing on Instagram
in a bathing suit or underwear--
LISA RINNA: I actually don't think that that is
what caused Amelia's anorexia.
GARCELLE BEAUVAIS: And I'm not saying it was.
I think Lisa kind of responded to it in--
in a good way.
Like, oh, I've talked to her about this.
LISA RINNA: What I can say, Garcelle, is
I am so proud of for coming out--
GARCELLE BEAUVAIS: Yeah, absolutely.
--the way that she has in a-- GARCELLE BEAUVAIS: Absolutely.
We talked about that.
--public forum and--
and talked about it.
GARCELLE BEAUVAIS: 100%.
I'm not a perfect parent.
I am proud of you, as a mom.
All of us-- all of us--
LISA RINNA: People are going to judge all of us
as mothers, however they're going to judge us.
It wasn't a thing of judging you, per se.
It was more the situation. - Of course it is.
Of course it is.
GARCELLE BEAUVAIS: OK.
You know, I think at this point, in the friendship
with all of the girls, I'm kind of ready for us
not to judge each other and not say things
like that to one another.
Because that's hurtful.
And, you know, at this point it's like,
y'all, we're in Rome.
Can we not just have fun?