APPRECIATE IT.
>>> WELL, FOR THE POLITICS,
JOINING ME NOW IS BYRON YORK,
WASHINGTON EXAMINER CHIEF
POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT, FOX
BUSINESS CONTRIBUTOR.
FIRST OF ALL, DONALD PRINCIPLE,
DOES -- DONALD TRUMP THE, DOES
THIS RAID HELP OR HURT HIM?
SOME PEOPLE SAY IT’S GOING TO
ENERGIZE HIS SUPPORTERS.
>> WELL, IN THE LONG RUN, WE
HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT IT’S
ABOUT, WHAT WAS REVEALED, WHAT
THE CASE IS, ALL OF THAT STUFF.
WE JUST DON’T KNOW.
CERTAINLY, IN THE SHORT RUN IT
HAS ELECTRIFIED TRUMP
SUPPORTERS.
YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THEY
BELIEVE, AND WITH A LOT OF
REASON, THAT TRUMP WAS UNFAIRLY
TARGET THED BY THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT AND THE INTELLIGENCE
COMMUNITY BEFORE HE EVEN BECAME
PRESIDENT.
DAVID: YEAH.
>> SO THEY SEE AS A CONTINUATION
OF THAT.
THEY SEE IT COMPLETELY UNFAIRLY.
NOW, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM HERE IS
THIS SECRECY.
IF YOU REMEMBER DURING THE YEARS
OF THE TRUMP-RUSSIA
INVESTIGATION, A LITTLE BIT OF
INFORMATION WOULD LEAK.
WE WOULDN’T KNOW THE CONTEXT, WE
WOULDN’T KNOW THE REAL STORY,
AND YET THERE WOULD BE HOURS AND
HOURS OF FRENZIED SPECULATION ON
TELEVISION AND ON THE INTERNET
ABOUT WHATEVER IT MIGHT MEAN.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, IN THE END
ON THE WHOLE COLLUSION THING WE
FOUND OUT THAT THE SPECIAL
COUNSEL DIDN’T FIND THAT IT EVEN
HAPPENED.
DAVID: YEAH.
>> BUT THAT DIDN’T STOP ALL OF
THE SPECULATION.
SO WE’RE IN A SITUATION NOW
WHERE WE REALLY KNOW PRETTY MUCH
NOTHING, AND WE’RE SEEING ALL
THIS SPECULATION.
DAVID: WELL, AND WE SAW ALL THE
E-MAILS AND THE PLANTIC MESSAGES
BY F -- FRONT IFIC MESSAGES BY
FBI INSIDERS WHO HATED DONALD
TRUMP AND WERE WILLING TO MAKE
THINGS UP IN ORDER TO MAKE HIM
LOOK BAD.
THIS IS JUST AN EXTENSION OF ALL
OF THIS.
REPUBLICANS ARE NOT TAKING IT
LYING DOWN.
WE’VE ALREADY HEARD FROM KEVIN
McCARTHY WHO MAY BE THE NEXT
SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE IF
REPUBLICANS WIN IN NOVEMBER.
HE SAID, I’VE SEEN ENOUGH.
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE HAS
REACHED AN INTOLERABLE STATE OF
WEAPONIZED POLITICIZATION.
WHEN REPUBLICANS TAKE BACK THE
HOUSE, WE WILL CONDUCT IMMEDIATE
OVERSIGHT OF THIS DEPARTMENT
FOLLOWING THE FACTS, LEAVING NO
STONE UNTURNED.
ATTORNEY GENERAL GARLAND,
PRESERVE YOUR DOCUMENTS AND
CLEAR YOUR CALENDAR.
WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN IF
REPUBLICANS WIN IN NOVEMBER?
>> WELL, WE ALREADY KNEW THAT
THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF
INVESTIGATIONS.
LISTEN, THERE ARE SORT OF
TACTICAL DIFFERENCES AMONG
REPUBLICANS ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY
SHOULD TALK ABOUT INVESTIGATIONS
WHILE THEY’RE CAMPAIGNING TO GET
ELECTED.
A LOT OF STRATEGISTS THINK THEY
SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT
INFLATION AND CRIME AND LOTS OF
ISSUES THAT ARE VERY, VERY
IMPORTANT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
BUT THE FACT IS IF REPUBLICANS
TAKE OVER ONE OR BOTH HOUSES OF
CONGRESS, YOU’RE GOING TO SEE A
LOT MORE INVESTIGATIONS OF THE
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, AND THEY
WILL HAVE SUBPOENA IF POWER.
AIRED DAVID YES.
>> NOW, RIGHT NOW THEY’RE BOTH
IN THE MINORITY IF ON CAPITOL
HILL, BUT STILL THE TWO CHAIR --
THE TWO RANKING REPUBLICANS ON
THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, CHARLES
GRASSLEY IN THE SENATE, JIM
JORDAN IN THE HOUSE, SHOULD
DEFINITELY BE WRITING TO THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND LAYING A
RECORD FOR DEMANDING INFORMATION
ABOUT WHAT’S GOING ON IN TRUMP
SEARCH SPECIFICALLY.
DAVID: AND, OF COURSE, GRASSLEY
MAY EXPOSE THESE WHISTLEBLOWERS,
THESE FBI WHISTLEBLOWERS WHO
WERE NOT TOO HAPPY ABOUT THE WAY
THAT INSTITUTION HAS BECOME
POLITICIZED.
BYRON, YOU AND I REMEMBER WHAT
HAPPENED THE LAST TIME THE FBI
WAS EXPOSED AS BEING POLITICIZED
BACK IN THE ’70s AND ’80s.
WE HAD THESE HEARINGS THAT
STARTED WITH THE CHURCH HEARINGS
BACK IN 1975 BECAUSE OF WHAT
NIXON HAD DONE DURING WATERGATE.
WE THOUGHT WE’D CLEANED UP THE
FBI, IS IT JUST INCORRIGIBLE BL
IS THERE NOTHING THAT WILL
PREVENT IT FROM BECOMING, AT
TIMES, A POLITICAL INSTITUTION?
>> WELL, IT’S HARD NOT TO THINK
THAT.
NOW, WE SHOULD REMEMBER THAT A
LARGE PART, THE MAJORITY OF THE
FBI IS GOING AFTER BAD GUYS.
THEY’RE GOING AFTER BANK ROBBERS
AND TERRORISTS --
DAVID: UNDERSTOOD.
YOU KNOW WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT.
>> BUT THERE’S A
HYPER-POLITICIZED GROUP AT THE
VERY TOP OF THE FBI IN THE
WASHINGTON HEADQUARTERS.
AND YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER IN THE
2016 ELECTION WE HAD AN ELECTION
IN WHICH BOTH MAJOR PARTY
CANDIDATES WERE UNDER
INVESTIGATION BY THE FBI.
NOW, YOU MAY SAY THEY WERE BOTH
KIND OF SQUIRRELY CANDIDATES,
BUT THERE’S SOMETHING WRONG WITH
WHAT’S GOING ON THERE.
AND THAT HAS CONTINUED.
DAVID: YES.
>> AND NOW TO THE PURSUIT OF A
FORMER PRESIDENT.
DAVID: BY THE WAY, OF PARTICULAR
INTEREST IS THAT CHRISTOPHER
WRAY WAS ONE OF PEOPLE WHO WAS
ACCUSED OF GIVING SANDY BERGER
AN EASY TIME BECAUSE HE JUST HAD
A MISDEMEANOR FOR STEALING
DOCUMENTS.
[LAUGHTER]
EVERYTHING COMES FULL CIRCLE.
AT THE I’M, HE WAS DIRECTOR OF
DOJ’S CRIMINAL GIGS.
NOW HE’S HEAD OF THE FBI.
MEANWHILE WITH, AND WE’VE GOT TO
END WITH THIS, JOE BIDEN’S GOT A
NEW LOOK.
IT’S CALLED DARK BRANDON.
THAT’S HOW IT’S BEING BRANDED.
I THINK WE HAVE A PICTURE OF IT,
IF I CAN.
HE’S GOT THESE RADIOACTIVE EYES
THAT HE’S LOOKING AT -- THERE IT
IS.
THE WHITE HOUSE SOMEHOW THINKS
THAT PARTICULARLY AFTER A
HEAVY-HANDED FBI RAID OF A
POLITICAL RIVAL, SOMEHOW THIS
LOOK IS GOING TO HELP BIDEN.
DO YOU THINK IT’S GOING TO HELP?
>> A REALLY BAD IDEA, ALTHOUGH
YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THERE’S
KIND OF AN ALTERNATE IF
UNIVERSE.
THEY THINK JOE BIDEN HAS NEW
SUPERPOWERS AFTER HAVING SUCH A
FANTASTIC WEEK IN WHICH HE GOT
al-ZAWAHIRI, A GOOD JOBS REPORT
AND A GOOD ECONOMIC NEWS.
AND SO THEY REALLY FEEL THAT
PRESIDENT BIDEN, ESPECIALLY
AFTER PASSAGE OF THE INFLATION
REDUCTION ACT, IS ON A WINNING
STREAK, AND HAY KIND OF LIKE TO
SEE HIM NOW AS A SUPERHERO.
DAVID: WELL, DARK BRANDON IS, I
THINK, NOT THE KIND OF LOOK THEY
WANT GIVEN WHAT HAPPENED THIS
WEEK IN MAR-A-LAGO.