convert I never will convert I'm not gonna be a full-time practicing Muslim I'm interested
in understanding more about the religion in actually reading the Quran because I think
that I think that there's an interlink within all religions that people seem to neglect and
they don't understand People go oh well that's Muslim, that's Christian, that's Hindu, that's
Hindu For me It's different people at different places, all gathering the same message in different
ways. Interpret it in different ways. Gotcha. You know? But then the thing is, modern day
Islam and modern day Christianity have become radicalized. Christianity, what, did it go
to Africa and take away their tribal traditions, the Christians? Do you know what I'm saying?
Like, and then... You've got to look at the American women and what they're doing and that's
all fundamental Christian nonsense. But then on the other side you've got people changing
the meaning of jihad. So jihad is to protect the motherland. It's not to go overseas and
do something that's wrong. Do you know what I'm saying? Like that's why I believe in religion.
All religion is right. It's so that it creates structure in people's lives. Also at the same
time. It's easier for the words to be misinterpreted.
I'm not saying... I was speaking to a guy over there. Right, and you might not agree with
me, but like... So, me, I'm straight, I like women, but he said something that was like
a bit homophobic. And I was like... and he's Muslim. So I was trying to convince him that
he was a noble in the Quran. I said, bro, you're here drinking and smoking. You're a shit Muslim.
You don't even pray. Like, why are you talking about how gay people are right? I think in
the modern day world, there's a place for tolerance. and understanding of people in their situation.
I don't, would you say to me, right, because this is one question I have to use here, so
serious Muslim brothers. Go ahead. Yeah. You think Allah would have made someone born gay?
Like, that's like, is that wrong?
That's a very good question. Because for me it's not. They're born that, it's in their
genetics. Look, when I'm with a woman, right, and I feel like, I feel the love, the affection,
the kind, the care, it makes me feel happy, stuff like that. If I was born like a man,
like feeling like that, and I can't feel that way on the other side, like then I'd feel sad
to think that religiously what I'm doing is wrong.
You know what I'm saying? But if I'm a man that looks another man, then I'm in love with someone,
then why would that be wrong? So love is love, is that what you're trying to say? Yeah, love
is love. So look, for example, if I was to ask you, if I was to ask you, for example, is there
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in reading. If they use... Look at India. Let me complete. Look at how many... I'm quarter
Indian so I can't... I'm not quarter Indian. If you go to India, how many genetic deformities
is there in India from insects? So our means of guidance and our sort of parameter on what
is right and wrong is divinely given to us through the Quran. Now I'll tell you why we need that.
Now if a... If there was a case of incest and there was protection used for example, would
you have a problem with that? Yeah, me personally, yeah. Well, why is it wrong then? If love is
love, why is it wrong? Because the kids... No, there's no kids. ..are potential for the kids
to have genetic... Okay, they take precaution. They take precaution so there's nothing like
that happening. What's not wrong then? So... Maybe I'm a messed up individual isn't it?
So what I'm trying to show you here... No it is wrong. It's brother and sister wrong. Why?
I've got a sister. I think... I'm thinking like... Oh yeah yeah. I think it's wrong, I think it's
disgusting. Okay? It's wrong. Now... My friend, my friend who's Muslim, he's from Algeria.
A Muslim from Algeria. He said, oh yeah I was with this girl. And she said, oh... I had a
relationship with my brother before. Right? And I said to him, well... Why are you not
saying nothing about... Now what I'm trying to say is, when you don't have divine guidance
to govern your life and what's right and wrong, you're open to everything, potentially. Under
the right circumstances or the wrong circumstances, these things which you say are unacceptable,
you'll be... You'd say it's fine. You said to your friend about someone who's born gay. Why
is that wrong? If this person is born that way, you know, why is it? What's wrong with that?
What's the problem with that? You know, they should be able to feel how they feel sort of
thing. Does he say in the Quran that he gave wrong? Now, let me give you the answer. Even
as a heterosexual man like yourself, okay, if you're as a Muslim... There are certain things
you can't do with... You know, there are rules and parameters. You can't have relations outside
of marriage, for example. You can't have... No, no, but this is not even... Don't apply
to me. Yes, but what I'm trying to show you is, it's not just about... These three girls
at work, I can't marry them off. So, you can have certain desires, but that doesn't necessarily
mean you can act upon those desires. Yeah, but our marriage, I think in this society, to have
a relationship about marriage in this world, like where we are right now in England, like
it's normal to have sex first. Because you don't want to marry someone, don't know, sex is not
good, you know what I'm saying? Look, Islam came to enhance society. It came to protect
and enhance society. And it did that by removing five ills of society, okay? gambling alcohol
Just wait for it gambling alcohol Usury, okay interest and all these things. Okay sexual
immorality and the last one escapes me. Do you remember it? But these you can see... And drugs,
and drugs, okay? Okay? So all of these things which are a harm to society, okay? And harm
to... and individuals, okay? Islam came to protect the family unit, protect society as an individual,
your minds and your bodies. I feel like this is a guidance to people that don't know...
Like for me, I know what is right and what is wrong. Well clearly you don't because you're
willing to accept incest. No, but I'll do some things that I think is wrong, but I'm not here
to promote that. Like, I drink. No, but... I'm not telling you.
As a society we have guidelines if
we didn't have rules there'd be chaos when I these red these red lights are here for a reason
Yeah What is your
purpose in life what's your purpose in life
I know that was haram in itself because I listen to non-religious music as haram but my music
is total political We're living in the end of days, cold empire days Ancient scriptures read
about days Non-live lavish, overman slave Pyramids keep me plugged and I'm done with it We got
grows and we got off salt Bandits and mine just get my work Can't have a good song, can't do
right from wrong Got a clean heart and it's touched by grot Trust forgot, living in the
world The same as me, I can see the illusion Bare confusion, pop that red or blue like Seeds
that don't care, love life two step Move that left right, no mortgage, low wage The people
you work for, they look two-faced I'm all wasted man, tired with this shitwork life Got people
at home in the building, I like Call it a crisis, call it a fight Call it the finest tines, call
it the pen whatever don't mind. Leg in the wing, you see those things already got manners. Angel
thing, but still, , I don't want this thing. Mm, mm, mm. Okay, so what's your purpose
in life then? I mean, you do your rapping and what not, okay? But what do you want to achieve?
When you do all your... My purpose in life is to find spiritual enlightenment. Okay, good.
So there's some deeper meaning there. Help us while we're here, where are we going? What's
after this life? My daughter, because I'm from them. Where are you from? I'm from them side
of the track. My religious belief is more in the esoteric Hindu. So I'm talking the tantric
kind of belief in understanding the spirit soul and all these kind of things. And you say you
want to read the Quran. I would like to read the Quran. Have you got one yet? No, no. He
said I can't read the Quran until he tries to convert me. I said I want to go and read the
Quran. I'm very interested, you know. Thank you for stopping. It's been a very interesting
discussion. You have a good day. MashaAllah. There you go. Have a good day.