UNDERSTAND THE LATEST ON THE GROUND IN UKRAINE. PLEASE STAY SAFE.
GROUND IN UKRAINE. PLEASE STAY SAFE. WHILE PRESIDENT BIDEN
SAFE. WHILE PRESIDENT BIDEN EXPRESSED
WHILE PRESIDENT BIDEN EXPRESSED SKEPTICISM OVER. RUSSIA‘S
EXPRESSED SKEPTICISM OVER. RUSSIA‘S PLEDGED TO REDUCE ITS
SKEPTICISM OVER. RUSSIA‘S PLEDGED TO REDUCE ITS HOSTILITIES, PENTAGON.
PLEDGED TO REDUCE ITS HOSTILITIES, PENTAGON. SPOKESMAN. JOHN KIRBY IS
HOSTILITIES, PENTAGON. SPOKESMAN. JOHN KIRBY IS STRAIGHT UP. NOT BUYING IT.
SPOKESMAN. JOHN KIRBY IS STRAIGHT UP. NOT BUYING IT. HAS THERE BEEN SOME MOVEMENT.
STRAIGHT UP. NOT BUYING IT. HAS THERE BEEN SOME MOVEMENT. MOVEMENT.
HAS THERE BEEN SOME MOVEMENT. MOVEMENT. BUY SOME RUSSIAN UNITS AWAY
MOVEMENT. BUY SOME RUSSIAN UNITS AWAY FROM KEITH
BUY SOME RUSSIAN UNITS AWAY FROM KEITH IN THE LAST DAY OR SO.
FROM KEITH IN THE LAST DAY OR SO. YEAH, WE THINK SO SMALL
IN THE LAST DAY OR SO. YEAH, WE THINK SO SMALL NUMBERS,
YEAH, WE THINK SO SMALL NUMBERS, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A
NUMBERS, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A REPOSITIONING
BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A REPOSITIONING NOT A REAL WITHDRAWAL
REPOSITIONING NOT A REAL WITHDRAWAL AND THAT WE ALL SHOULD BE
NOT A REAL WITHDRAWAL AND THAT WE ALL SHOULD BE PREPARED TO WATCH FOR A MAJOR
AND THAT WE ALL SHOULD BE PREPARED TO WATCH FOR A MAJOR OFFENSIVE AGAINST OTHER AREAS
PREPARED TO WATCH FOR A MAJOR OFFENSIVE AGAINST OTHER AREAS OF UKRAINE.
OFFENSIVE AGAINST OTHER AREAS OF UKRAINE. JOINING ME NOW IS MSNBC
OF UKRAINE. JOINING ME NOW IS MSNBC INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS ANALYST
JOINING ME NOW IS MSNBC INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS ANALYST AND FORMER US AMBASSADOR TO
INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS ANALYST AND FORMER US AMBASSADOR TO RUSSIA
AND FORMER US AMBASSADOR TO RUSSIA MICHAEL MCFAUL. SO AMBASSADOR,
RUSSIA MICHAEL MCFAUL. SO AMBASSADOR, YOU HEARD THAT CLEAR MESSAGE
MICHAEL MCFAUL. SO AMBASSADOR, YOU HEARD THAT CLEAR MESSAGE FROM THE PENTAGON THAT THE
YOU HEARD THAT CLEAR MESSAGE FROM THE PENTAGON THAT THE U.S. IS NOT BUYING ANY OF
FROM THE PENTAGON THAT THE U.S. IS NOT BUYING ANY OF REACTION
U.S. IS NOT BUYING ANY OF REACTION AND
REACTION AND ASSESSMENT OF WHAT RUSSIA SAID
AND ASSESSMENT OF WHAT RUSSIA SAID TODAY?
ASSESSMENT OF WHAT RUSSIA SAID TODAY? WELL, WHAT THEY SAID AND WHAT
TODAY? WELL, WHAT THEY SAID AND WHAT THEY DO
WELL, WHAT THEY SAID AND WHAT THEY DO HERE, DO COORDINATE A BIT.
THEY DO HERE, DO COORDINATE A BIT. ANY TIME. THE ENEMY IS
HERE, DO COORDINATE A BIT. ANY TIME. THE ENEMY IS RETREATING.
ANY TIME. THE ENEMY IS RETREATING. I THINK THAT‘S GOOD NEWS, AND
RETREATING. I THINK THAT‘S GOOD NEWS, AND I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE
I THINK THAT‘S GOOD NEWS, AND I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE CLEAR. THEY‘RE RETREATING
I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE CLEAR. THEY‘RE RETREATING BECAUSE THEY‘RE LOSING ON THE
CLEAR. THEY‘RE RETREATING BECAUSE THEY‘RE LOSING ON THE BATTLEFIELD AROUND. KIEV. IT‘S
BECAUSE THEY‘RE LOSING ON THE BATTLEFIELD AROUND. KIEV. IT‘S NOT BECAUSE PUTIN‘S BECOME
BATTLEFIELD AROUND. KIEV. IT‘S NOT BECAUSE PUTIN‘S BECOME SOME MR. NICE GUY. ALL OF A
NOT BECAUSE PUTIN‘S BECOME SOME MR. NICE GUY. ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY‘RE LOSING
SOME MR. NICE GUY. ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY‘RE LOSING AND THEY‘RE RETREATING. BUT AS
SUDDEN THEY‘RE LOSING AND THEY‘RE RETREATING. BUT AS ADMIRAL KIRBY JUST SAID THAT
AND THEY‘RE RETREATING. BUT AS ADMIRAL KIRBY JUST SAID THAT DOESN‘T MEAN THEY‘RE
ADMIRAL KIRBY JUST SAID THAT DOESN‘T MEAN THEY‘RE WITHDRAWING
DOESN‘T MEAN THEY‘RE WITHDRAWING AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE
WITHDRAWING AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO LET OUR
AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO LET OUR OPTIMISM RUN TO THAT AND
CAREFUL NOT TO LET OUR OPTIMISM RUN TO THAT AND WATCH WHAT THEY DO
OPTIMISM RUN TO THAT AND WATCH WHAT THEY DO IN TERMS OF
WATCH WHAT THEY DO IN TERMS OF HUMMING REGROUPING.
IN TERMS OF HUMMING REGROUPING. I,
HUMMING REGROUPING. I, YOU KNOW, I BECOME RATHER
I, YOU KNOW, I BECOME RATHER SKEPTICAL ABOUT ANY TIME.
YOU KNOW, I BECOME RATHER SKEPTICAL ABOUT ANY TIME. THERE‘S A GOOD NEWS COMING
SKEPTICAL ABOUT ANY TIME. THERE‘S A GOOD NEWS COMING FROM THE KREMLIN. AND SO I
THERE‘S A GOOD NEWS COMING FROM THE KREMLIN. AND SO I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THIS AS
FROM THE KREMLIN. AND SO I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THIS AS GOOD NEWS, BUT TINY NEWS
THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THIS AS GOOD NEWS, BUT TINY NEWS AND WAIT FOR TO SEE WHAT
GOOD NEWS, BUT TINY NEWS AND WAIT FOR TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE COMING DAYS AND
AND WAIT FOR TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE COMING DAYS AND WEEKS.
HAPPENS IN THE COMING DAYS AND WEEKS. I MEAN, HELP US UNDERSTAND
WEEKS. I MEAN, HELP US UNDERSTAND THAT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE
I MEAN, HELP US UNDERSTAND THAT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AS AN EXPERT
THAT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AS AN EXPERT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN
AS AN EXPERT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN HEAR THAT PROPAGANDA
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN HEAR THAT PROPAGANDA FROM THE KREMLIN CAN‘T BE
HEAR THAT PROPAGANDA FROM THE KREMLIN CAN‘T BE BELIEVED BUT
FROM THE KREMLIN CAN‘T BE BELIEVED BUT GIVE US OTHER EXAMPLES.
BELIEVED BUT GIVE US OTHER EXAMPLES. RUSSIA SAID ONE THING. IT DID
GIVE US OTHER EXAMPLES. RUSSIA SAID ONE THING. IT DID THE EXACT OPPOSITE THING ON
RUSSIA SAID ONE THING. IT DID THE EXACT OPPOSITE THING ON THE GROUND.
THE EXACT OPPOSITE THING ON THE GROUND. WELL, THE MOST EGREGIOUS TIME
THE GROUND. WELL, THE MOST EGREGIOUS TIME WAS RIGHT BEFORE
WELL, THE MOST EGREGIOUS TIME WAS RIGHT BEFORE PUTIN INVADED UKRAINE.
WAS RIGHT BEFORE PUTIN INVADED UKRAINE. IF YOU RECALL BY IT SEEMS LIKE
PUTIN INVADED UKRAINE. IF YOU RECALL BY IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS YEARS AGO, BUT IT WAS
IF YOU RECALL BY IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS YEARS AGO, BUT IT WAS JUST SEVERAL WEEKS AGO.
IT WAS YEARS AGO, BUT IT WAS JUST SEVERAL WEEKS AGO. REMEMBER,
JUST SEVERAL WEEKS AGO. REMEMBER, RIGHT? UP UNTIL THE DAY HE
REMEMBER, RIGHT? UP UNTIL THE DAY HE INVADED,
RIGHT? UP UNTIL THE DAY HE INVADED, MANY GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS EVEN
INVADED, MANY GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS EVEN HIS OWN FOREIGN MINISTER
MANY GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS EVEN HIS OWN FOREIGN MINISTER SAYING, OH, WE HAVE NO
HIS OWN FOREIGN MINISTER SAYING, OH, WE HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF ATTACKING.
SAYING, OH, WE HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF ATTACKING. THESE ARE JUST
INTENTIONS OF ATTACKING. THESE ARE JUST OPERATIONS
THESE ARE JUST OPERATIONS THAT
OPERATIONS THAT WE‘RE NOT GOING TO USE
THAT WE‘RE NOT GOING TO USE THESE ARE JUST TRAINING
WE‘RE NOT GOING TO USE THESE ARE JUST TRAINING EXERCISES ETC. WE KNOW THAT
THESE ARE JUST TRAINING EXERCISES ETC. WE KNOW THAT NOT TO BE TRUE. SO CALL ME
EXERCISES ETC. WE KNOW THAT NOT TO BE TRUE. SO CALL ME SKEPTICAL, WHEN I HEAR THAT
NOT TO BE TRUE. SO CALL ME SKEPTICAL, WHEN I HEAR THAT THEY ARE.
SKEPTICAL, WHEN I HEAR THAT THEY ARE. REPOSITIONING THAT ALL SAID
THEY ARE. REPOSITIONING THAT ALL SAID THEY‘RE LOSING THE WAR IN
REPOSITIONING THAT ALL SAID THEY‘RE LOSING THE WAR IN KIEV,
THEY‘RE LOSING THE WAR IN KIEV, SO
KIEV, SO THEY‘RE EITHER RETREATING OR
SO THEY‘RE EITHER RETREATING OR REPOSITIONING. AND AT
THEY‘RE EITHER RETREATING OR REPOSITIONING. AND AT THE SAME TIME.
REPOSITIONING. AND AT THE SAME TIME. I THINK IT‘S IMPORTANT TO
THE SAME TIME. I THINK IT‘S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER WHAT THEY‘RE DOING
I THINK IT‘S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER WHAT THEY‘RE DOING AND
REMEMBER WHAT THEY‘RE DOING AND MARIUPOL,
AND MARIUPOL, THEY ARE VERY SET IN.
MARIUPOL, THEY ARE VERY SET IN. DESTROYING THAT CITY KILLING
THEY ARE VERY SET IN. DESTROYING THAT CITY KILLING CIVILIANS ARE
DESTROYING THAT CITY KILLING CIVILIANS ARE KIDNAPPINGS
CIVILIANS ARE KIDNAPPINGS CHILDREN. IF YOU
KIDNAPPINGS CHILDREN. IF YOU BELIEVE
CHILDREN. IF YOU BELIEVE PRESIDENT SOLINSKY AND THAT IS
BELIEVE PRESIDENT SOLINSKY AND THAT IS WHERE THEY‘RE FOCUSING.
PRESIDENT SOLINSKY AND THAT IS WHERE THEY‘RE FOCUSING. THEIR MILITARY ACTIVITY RIGHT
WHERE THEY‘RE FOCUSING. THEIR MILITARY ACTIVITY RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE AS YOU SHOW THAT
THEIR MILITARY ACTIVITY RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE AS YOU SHOW THAT MAP,
NOW. BECAUSE AS YOU SHOW THAT MAP, THEY WANT TO
MAP, THEY WANT TO TAKE THOSE RED LINES.
THEY WANT TO TAKE THOSE RED LINES. THOSE RED AND WHITE LINES AND
TAKE THOSE RED LINES. THOSE RED AND WHITE LINES AND THEY WANT TO MAKE THAT
THOSE RED AND WHITE LINES AND THEY WANT TO MAKE THAT COMPLETELY RED SO THAT
THEY WANT TO MAKE THAT COMPLETELY RED SO THAT THEY CONTROL THE AREA FROM
COMPLETELY RED SO THAT THEY CONTROL THE AREA FROM CRIMEA TO THE
THEY CONTROL THE AREA FROM CRIMEA TO THE DON BOX.
CRIMEA TO THE DON BOX. IN TERMS OF
DON BOX. IN TERMS OF RUSSIA‘S WILLINGNESS
IN TERMS OF RUSSIA‘S WILLINGNESS TO COME TO THE TABLE FOR THESE
RUSSIA‘S WILLINGNESS TO COME TO THE TABLE FOR THESE PEACE TALKS. YOU MENTIONED
TO COME TO THE TABLE FOR THESE PEACE TALKS. YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU‘RE SKEPTICAL ABOUT
PEACE TALKS. YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU‘RE SKEPTICAL ABOUT THEIR REPOSITIONING, YOU
THAT YOU‘RE SKEPTICAL ABOUT THEIR REPOSITIONING, YOU SAY THAT THEY‘RE KIDNAPPING
THEIR REPOSITIONING, YOU SAY THAT THEY‘RE KIDNAPPING AND KILLING
SAY THAT THEY‘RE KIDNAPPING AND KILLING CONTINUALLY EVERY DAY.
AND KILLING CONTINUALLY EVERY DAY. SO,
CONTINUALLY EVERY DAY. SO, IN TERMS OF WHAT UKRAINE
SO, IN TERMS OF WHAT UKRAINE CAN DO IN THIS PARTICULAR
IN TERMS OF WHAT UKRAINE CAN DO IN THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT,
CAN DO IN THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT, I MEAN,
MOMENT, I MEAN, FIERCE. HOW DO YOU THINK THEY
I MEAN, FIERCE. HOW DO YOU THINK THEY CAN
FIERCE. HOW DO YOU THINK THEY CAN CONTINUE TO HOLD BACK?
CAN CONTINUE TO HOLD BACK? BACK THE RUSSIAN
CONTINUE TO HOLD BACK? BACK THE RUSSIAN FORCES, AT
BACK THE RUSSIAN FORCES, AT LEAST TO THE POINT?
FORCES, AT LEAST TO THE POINT? PEACE TALKS CAN TAKE FRUITION
LEAST TO THE POINT? PEACE TALKS CAN TAKE FRUITION FOR REAL FOR REAL.
PEACE TALKS CAN TAKE FRUITION FOR REAL FOR REAL. WELL, YOU KNOW WAR‘S END IN
FOR REAL FOR REAL. WELL, YOU KNOW WAR‘S END IN TWO WAYS, EITHER ONE SIDE WINS
WELL, YOU KNOW WAR‘S END IN TWO WAYS, EITHER ONE SIDE WINS OR THERE‘S A STALEMATE ON THE
TWO WAYS, EITHER ONE SIDE WINS OR THERE‘S A STALEMATE ON THE BATTLEFIELD.
OR THERE‘S A STALEMATE ON THE BATTLEFIELD. AND SO THE UKRAINIAN ARMY
BATTLEFIELD. AND SO THE UKRAINIAN ARMY AND THEIR YOUTH, THEIR
AND SO THE UKRAINIAN ARMY AND THEIR YOUTH, THEIR LEADERSHIP PRESIDENT.
AND THEIR YOUTH, THEIR LEADERSHIP PRESIDENT. ZALENSKI ARE FIGHTING FOR A
LEADERSHIP PRESIDENT. ZALENSKI ARE FIGHTING FOR A STALEMATE. THAT‘S WHAT THEY
ZALENSKI ARE FIGHTING FOR A STALEMATE. THAT‘S WHAT THEY HOPE TO ACHIEVE,
STALEMATE. THAT‘S WHAT THEY HOPE TO ACHIEVE, BUT IT‘S A MIXED MESSAGE. I
HOPE TO ACHIEVE, BUT IT‘S A MIXED MESSAGE. I THINK IN THE COMING DAYS.
BUT IT‘S A MIXED MESSAGE. I THINK IN THE COMING DAYS. WE‘RE GOING TO LEARN ABOUT
THINK IN THE COMING DAYS. WE‘RE GOING TO LEARN ABOUT MATER. YOU PULL
WE‘RE GOING TO LEARN ABOUT MATER. YOU PULL FOLLOWING THOSE COURAGEOUS
MATER. YOU PULL FOLLOWING THOSE COURAGEOUS HEROIC FIGHTERS INSIDE
FOLLOWING THOSE COURAGEOUS HEROIC FIGHTERS INSIDE THE CITY RIGHT NOW,
HEROIC FIGHTERS INSIDE THE CITY RIGHT NOW, THERE NOW CUT OFF, THEY DON‘T
THE CITY RIGHT NOW, THERE NOW CUT OFF, THEY DON‘T HAVE SUPPLIES. THEY DON‘T HAVE
THERE NOW CUT OFF, THEY DON‘T HAVE SUPPLIES. THEY DON‘T HAVE NEW WEAPONS,
HAVE SUPPLIES. THEY DON‘T HAVE NEW WEAPONS, AND I THINK IN THE COMING
NEW WEAPONS, AND I THINK IN THE COMING DAYS,
AND I THINK IN THE COMING DAYS, WE‘RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT.
DAYS, WE‘RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT. OUT A QUOTE UNQUOTE,
WE‘RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT. OUT A QUOTE UNQUOTE, RUSSIAN VICTORY THERE, AND
OUT A QUOTE UNQUOTE, RUSSIAN VICTORY THERE, AND THAT‘S GOING TO FEEL LIKE
RUSSIAN VICTORY THERE, AND THAT‘S GOING TO FEEL LIKE THE STALEMATE IS NOT IN
THAT‘S GOING TO FEEL LIKE THE STALEMATE IS NOT IN PLACE.
THE STALEMATE IS NOT IN PLACE. AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE
PLACE. AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE PREPARED FOR THAT. AND THEN
AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE PREPARED FOR THAT. AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE FORCES,
PREPARED FOR THAT. AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE FORCES, BY THE WAY AROUND,
WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE FORCES, BY THE WAY AROUND, MARIO PEOPLE DO, THEY STAY IN
BY THE WAY AROUND, MARIO PEOPLE DO, THEY STAY IN PLACE OR DO THEY BEGIN TO
MARIO PEOPLE DO, THEY STAY IN PLACE OR DO THEY BEGIN TO MARCH FURTHER INTO UKRAINE? I
PLACE OR DO THEY BEGIN TO MARCH FURTHER INTO UKRAINE? I THINK THAT‘S THE NEXT BIG
MARCH FURTHER INTO UKRAINE? I THINK THAT‘S THE NEXT BIG QUESTION
THINK THAT‘S THE NEXT BIG QUESTION IN THE FUTURE
QUESTION IN THE FUTURE IN THE MEANTIME. HOWEVER, I
IN THE FUTURE IN THE MEANTIME. HOWEVER, I APPLAUD WITH UKRAINIANS ARE
IN THE MEANTIME. HOWEVER, I APPLAUD WITH UKRAINIANS ARE DOING IN TERMS OF NEGOTIATING.
APPLAUD WITH UKRAINIANS ARE DOING IN TERMS OF NEGOTIATING. THEY ARE PROVIDING INNOVATIVE
DOING IN TERMS OF NEGOTIATING. THEY ARE PROVIDING INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS. THEY HAVE LAID OUT
THEY ARE PROVIDING INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS. THEY HAVE LAID OUT IDEAS ABOUT
SOLUTIONS. THEY HAVE LAID OUT IDEAS ABOUT 30 GUARANTEES IN RETURN FOR
IDEAS ABOUT 30 GUARANTEES IN RETURN FOR NEUTRALITY.
30 GUARANTEES IN RETURN FOR NEUTRALITY. THEY‘VE PROPOSED SOMETHING
NEUTRALITY. THEY‘VE PROPOSED SOMETHING WITH REGARDS TO THE BORDERS OF
THEY‘VE PROPOSED SOMETHING WITH REGARDS TO THE BORDERS OF THE STATE.
WITH REGARDS TO THE BORDERS OF THE STATE. THEY‘VE EVEN PROPOSE SOMETHING
THE STATE. THEY‘VE EVEN PROPOSE SOMETHING ABOUT THE SIZE OF THEIR
THEY‘VE EVEN PROPOSE SOMETHING ABOUT THE SIZE OF THEIR MILITARY FORCES
ABOUT THE SIZE OF THEIR MILITARY FORCES IN THOSE NEGOTIATIONS,
MILITARY FORCES IN THOSE NEGOTIATIONS, THE PROBLEM SO FAR I WOULD
IN THOSE NEGOTIATIONS, THE PROBLEM SO FAR I WOULD SAY IS THAT THE RUSSIANS ARE
THE PROBLEM SO FAR I WOULD SAY IS THAT THE RUSSIANS ARE JUST REACTING.
SAY IS THAT THE RUSSIANS ARE JUST REACTING. THEY ARE NOT PROVIDING
JUST REACTING. THEY ARE NOT PROVIDING THEIR OWN
THEY ARE NOT PROVIDING THEIR OWN AGREEMENT. LET ALONE
THEIR OWN AGREEMENT. LET ALONE INNOVATION, INNOVATIVE
AGREEMENT. LET ALONE INNOVATION, INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS, BUT THAT‘S A
INNOVATION, INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS, BUT THAT‘S A PROCESS. THAT‘S THE WAY
SOLUTIONS, BUT THAT‘S A PROCESS. THAT‘S THE WAY NEGOTIATIONS, PROCEED.
PROCESS. THAT‘S THE WAY NEGOTIATIONS, PROCEED. AND I THINK ULTIMATELY
NEGOTIATIONS, PROCEED. AND I THINK ULTIMATELY THE BIG MOVES IN THE
AND I THINK ULTIMATELY THE BIG MOVES IN THE NEGOTIATIONS WILL HAVE
THE BIG MOVES IN THE NEGOTIATIONS WILL HAVE TO BE
NEGOTIATIONS WILL HAVE TO BE PRESIDENTS OLINSKY AND
TO BE PRESIDENTS OLINSKY AND PRESIDENT PUTIN,
PRESIDENTS OLINSKY AND PRESIDENT PUTIN, EITHER ON THE PHONE OR IN THE
PRESIDENT PUTIN, EITHER ON THE PHONE OR IN THE ROOM. IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AT
EITHER ON THE PHONE OR IN THE ROOM. IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AT THESE LOWER LEVELS.
ROOM. IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AT THESE LOWER LEVELS. IS THE FACT THAT,
THESE LOWER LEVELS. IS THE FACT THAT, 15,000 TROOPS HAVE DIED
IS THE FACT THAT, 15,000 TROOPS HAVE DIED ACCORDING TO UKRAINIAN
15,000 TROOPS HAVE DIED ACCORDING TO UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS
ACCORDING TO UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS CHANGING,
OFFICIALS CHANGING, RUSSIA‘S ASSESSMENTS OF WHAT
CHANGING, RUSSIA‘S ASSESSMENTS OF WHAT THEY‘RE DOING IN THE NEAR AND
RUSSIA‘S ASSESSMENTS OF WHAT THEY‘RE DOING IN THE NEAR AND LONGER TERMS. IT SEEMS TO ME
THEY‘RE DOING IN THE NEAR AND LONGER TERMS. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT‘S NOT SOMETHING THAT
LONGER TERMS. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT‘S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN
THAT THAT‘S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN ACCEPT. LEAH, SIMPLY
YOU CAN ACCEPT. LEAH, SIMPLY EXPLAINED AWAY, GIVEN THE FACT
ACCEPT. LEAH, SIMPLY EXPLAINED AWAY, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THAT‘S 15,000 FAMILIES
EXPLAINED AWAY, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THAT‘S 15,000 FAMILIES WELL, IF THERE‘S NUMBERS ARE
THAT THAT‘S 15,000 FAMILIES WELL, IF THERE‘S NUMBERS ARE TRUE, AND THOSE ARE THE
WELL, IF THERE‘S NUMBERS ARE TRUE, AND THOSE ARE THE UKRAINIAN NUMBERS, BUT THOSE
TRUE, AND THOSE ARE THE UKRAINIAN NUMBERS, BUT THOSE ARE HORRIFIC LOSSES. THOSE
UKRAINIAN NUMBERS, BUT THOSE ARE HORRIFIC LOSSES. THOSE ARE
ARE HORRIFIC LOSSES. THOSE ARE HISTORIC LOSSES. THIS IS A
ARE HISTORIC LOSSES. THIS IS A MONUMENTAL DEFEAT OF THE
HISTORIC LOSSES. THIS IS A MONUMENTAL DEFEAT OF THE MIGHT THE WHAT WE THOUGHT
MONUMENTAL DEFEAT OF THE MIGHT THE WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS THE
MIGHT THE WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS THE THE MIGHTY RUSSIAN ARMY
WAS THE THE MIGHTY RUSSIAN ARMY THAT IS PROVEN, NOT TO BE THE
THE MIGHTY RUSSIAN ARMY THAT IS PROVEN, NOT TO BE THE CASE.
THAT IS PROVEN, NOT TO BE THE CASE. AND AS YOU WERE JUST TALKING
CASE. AND AS YOU WERE JUST TALKING WITH CLEANSE, IT‘S ONE THING
AND AS YOU WERE JUST TALKING WITH CLEANSE, IT‘S ONE THING TO MEASURE TANKS AND GUNS
WITH CLEANSE, IT‘S ONE THING TO MEASURE TANKS AND GUNS AND AND DOLLARS
TO MEASURE TANKS AND GUNS AND AND DOLLARS ARE RUBLES SPENT ON MILITARY.
AND AND DOLLARS ARE RUBLES SPENT ON MILITARY. IT‘S ANOTHER THING TO MEASURE
ARE RUBLES SPENT ON MILITARY. IT‘S ANOTHER THING TO MEASURE THE WILL TO FIGHT.
IT‘S ANOTHER THING TO MEASURE THE WILL TO FIGHT. CLEARLY. THERE‘S AN ASYMMETRY
THE WILL TO FIGHT. CLEARLY. THERE‘S AN ASYMMETRY HERE ON THE SIDE OF THE
CLEARLY. THERE‘S AN ASYMMETRY HERE ON THE SIDE OF THE UKRAINIANS. THAT‘S ALL THE
HERE ON THE SIDE OF THE UKRAINIANS. THAT‘S ALL THE GOOD NEWS.
UKRAINIANS. THAT‘S ALL THE GOOD NEWS. THE BAD NEWS IS THAT,
GOOD NEWS. THE BAD NEWS IS THAT, LET‘S EVEN SAY IT IS
THE BAD NEWS IS THAT, LET‘S EVEN SAY IT IS 15,000. WELL, HE INVADED
LET‘S EVEN SAY IT IS 15,000. WELL, HE INVADED WITH
15,000. WELL, HE INVADED WITH 200,000. THAT MEANS
WITH 200,000. THAT MEANS 180,000 PLUS SOLDIERS.
200,000. THAT MEANS 180,000 PLUS SOLDIERS. ARE STILL OCCUPYING UKRAINE,
180,000 PLUS SOLDIERS. ARE STILL OCCUPYING UKRAINE, THAT‘S STILL A PRETTY BIG
ARE STILL OCCUPYING UKRAINE, THAT‘S STILL A PRETTY BIG FIGHTING FORCE AND I JUST
THAT‘S STILL A PRETTY BIG FIGHTING FORCE AND I JUST THINK WE HAVE TO UNTIL
FIGHTING FORCE AND I JUST THINK WE HAVE TO UNTIL WE KNOW DEFINITIVELY
THINK WE HAVE TO UNTIL WE KNOW DEFINITIVELY THAT THOSE FORCES ARE PULLING
WE KNOW DEFINITIVELY THAT THOSE FORCES ARE PULLING BACK.
THAT THOSE FORCES ARE PULLING BACK. WE NEED TO BE NERVOUS ABOUT
BACK. WE NEED TO BE NERVOUS ABOUT COUNTEROFFENSIVE.
WE NEED TO BE NERVOUS ABOUT COUNTEROFFENSIVE. IT‘S PRECISELY AS ADMIRAL
COUNTEROFFENSIVE. IT‘S PRECISELY AS ADMIRAL KIRBY JUST DESCRIBED TO YOU.
IT‘S PRECISELY AS ADMIRAL KIRBY JUST DESCRIBED TO YOU. YOU KNOW, A FEW MINUTES AGO.
KIRBY JUST DESCRIBED TO YOU. YOU KNOW, A FEW MINUTES AGO. AMBASSADOR MIKE. MCFAUL, THANK
YOU KNOW, A FEW MINUTES AGO. AMBASSADOR MIKE. MCFAUL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AS
AMBASSADOR MIKE. MCFAUL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AS ALWAYS AND HELPING US
YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AS ALWAYS AND HELPING US UNDERSTAND THE LATEST. PLEASE