WHICH HAD BRYAN CRANSTON ON THE OTHER NIGHT TO TALK ABOUT "THE
INFILTRATOR."
>> HE'S [BLEEP], ISN'T HE?
>> Stephen: WHAT A CREEP, WHAT A CREEP AND NO TALENT, RIGHT.
>> TRUE.
I FEEL BAD FOR THE GUY.
>> Stephen: REALLY.
HE'S JUST COASTING AT THIS POINT.
THIS MOVIE LOOKS FANTASTIC.
AND ALSO A LITTLE SCARY.
BECAUSE THIS IS A REAL STORY.
YOU PLAY, LET'S SEE IF I GET THIS RIGHT, ROBERTO ELCAINO.
>> PERFECT.
>> Stephen: AND YOU ARE PABLO ESCOBAR'S RIGHT-HAND MAN.
>> ONE OF HIS TOP LIEUTENANTS.
THIS FILM IS ACTUALLY BASED ON A REAL SERIES OF EVENTS THAT
OCCURRED IN THE EARLY 19 '80S, THE HEYDAY OF THE COCAINE
COWBOY.
AND IT CENTERS ON A FEDERAL AGENT PLAYED BY BRYAN WHO IN
REAL LIFE WENT UNDER DEEP COVER FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS.
AND INSTEAD OF FOLLOWING THE DRUGS, HE DECIDED TO FOLLOW THE
MONEY.
HE COZIED UP TO MEMBERS OF THE MEDIEN CAR TELL AND CROOKED
BANKERS OF THE BANK OF CREDIT AND COMMERCE INTERNATIONAL.
>> Stephen: THAT IS NOT AN EASY THING, COZZEING UP TO THE
CARTELL DOES NOT VAY GREAT RETIREMENT PLAN.
>> NO, THERE IS NOT A BIG SAFETY NET.
ULTIMATELY WHAT IT BECOMES IS THE ULTIMATE ACTING JOB.
AND THE REAL MAN, ROBERT MAZUR WHO BRYAN PLAYS IN MY MIND IS A
KIND OF HERO AND ALMOST CRAZY IN TERMS OF AMOUNT OF COURAGE HE
HAS.
>> Stephen: HE WAS HERE.
>> WAS HE.
>> Stephen: HE WAS ACTUALLY IN THE THEATER THE NIGHT THAT BRYAN
WAS HERE, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW WHO IT WAS BECAUSE HE STILL CAN'T
REVEAL WHO HE IS.
BRYAN SAID HE WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE IN THE STUDIO AND I GOT
OUT OF HERE AS FAST AS I COULD.
>> AFTER YOU SEE THIS FILM OR READ HIS BOOK, YOU WOULD BE THE
SAME WAY, I MEAN-- .
>> Stephen: CAN I SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT SCENE
THERE, IN THE SCENE, DOES SOMETHING WORKS GIVING TOO MUCH
AWAY, DOES SOMETHING BAD HAPPEN WITH THAT KNIFE BECAUSE THAT
CAMERA LINGERS ON THAT KNIFE FOR A LONG TIME.
THAT ONION REALLY DOES LOOK LIKE BRYAN CRANSTON'S HEAD AFTER A
WHILE.
>> THE THREAT IS DEFINITELY IMPLIED.
BUT MY PROBLEM WITH THE SCENE IS NOT WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE
SCENE, IT'S WHEN I SHOWED UP ON THE SET TO MAKE THAT SCENE, IT
SAY HEAVY SCENE WITH BRYAN CRANSTON AND REALLY REVEALING IN
TERMS OF WHAT MY CHARACTER'S MOTIVATIONS ARE.
BUT ALL I COULD THINK ABOUT, STEPHEN, IS LIKE THIS IS NOT
QUALITY CUTLERY.
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO-- SLICE AND DICE THIS ONION LIKE I KNOW HOW
I REALLY CAN DO.
I HEARD YOU ARE A BIT OF A-- .
>> Stephen: I LIKE TO COOK, IT WAS A BAD KNIFE?
>> IT WAS A TERRIBLE KNIFE.
>> Stephen: IT LOOKED LICK IT WAS HAVING TROUBLE GOING INTO A
POTATOE.
>> IT WAS AS SHARP AS A BALANCEPINE HAMMER.
>> Stephen: ARE YOU A COOK, DO YOU ENJOY.
>> I DO,.
>> Stephen: CAN YOU DO WITH THE FUNNING IRES CURLED UNDER.
>> I KNOW HOW TO SLICE AND DICE AN ONION.
DO YOU CUT IT FOUR DIFFERENT WAYS BEFORE YOU COME DOWN AND
GET THE LITTLE DICE.
>> Stephen: EIGHT DIFFERENT WAYS, FOUR, THAT IS FOR AMATEURS
AM I HAVE NEVER BEEN A GOOD COOK BUT I ENJOY IT, IT IS LIKE A
THERAPY IT IS A PILE OF ONE THING AND AN HOUR LATER IT IS A
PILE OF ANOTHER THING.
AND PEOPLE LOVE ME ENOUGH TO SAY THAT IT TASTES GOOD.
>> I HEARD THAT YOU HAVE QUITE A MEAN BOLOGNAISE.
>> Stephen: I DO, I DO, I STOLE IT FROM THIS LITTLE
LOCATION CALLED "THE NEW YORK TIMES."
>> WERE YOU SLOW COOK EVERYTHING.
>> Stephen: YEAH.
>> I SAW THAT TOO.
HI A RECIPE OF MY OWN, OF THE SAME DISH BEFORE THAT, BUT I
READ THAT ARTICLE AND IT IN FACT ENHANCED MY OLD RECIPE.
>> Stephen: DO YOU LOOK COOKING SHOWS AND STUFF LIKE
THAT?
THAT IS ONE OF MY GREATEST RELAXATIONS IS WATCHING CHOPPED.
>> YOU LOVE CHOPPED.
>> Stephen: I LOVE CHOPPED.
>> THAT IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE REALITY SHOWS.
NEXT TIME I COME BACK WE WILL DO A VERSION OF CHOPPED.
>> Stephen: THAT IS FANTASTIC AM WE HAVE ONE HERE CALLED
SMOOSHED.
>> DO YOU REALLY?
>> Stephen: WE DO, YOU ONLY HAVE ONE MINUTE AND IT IS ONLY
WHAT IS IN THE BREAK ROOM FRIDGE.
LIKE MARSHMALLOWS AND PEANUT BUTTER FLUFF.
>> TO YOUR POINT, I ENJOY COOKING FOR THE FACT THAT IT IS
A LEISURE ACTIVITY.
ALWAYS INVOLVING FAMILY.
I COME FROM A LATIN FAMILY, OF COURSE, THAT IS THE CENTER OF
THE UNIVERSE FOR US.
BUT IT IS ACTUALLY KIND OF FUN.
IT'S A BIT LIKE WATCHING A CAR CRASH WHEN YOU WATCH PEOPLE ON
CHOPPED, THEY GET THIS MYSTERY BAS KELT, LIKE WHAT IS
SQUIDJERKY ANYWAY, WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH SQUID JERKY AND
COTTON CANDY AS AN APPETIZER, AS AN EXAMPLE.
>> Stephen: I WOULD MAKE LIKE A SORT OF SWEET AND SOUR BRITEL
AND BREAK IT UP OVER CORN MEAL (LAUGHTER)
>> YOU COULD.
>> Stephen: IF CORN MEAL IS ONE THE INGREDIENTS.
>> IT'S REALLY GOOD, GUYS.
>> Stephen: DO YOU ENJOY PLAYING A BAD GUY?
BECAUSE HE IS A BAD GUY, RIGHT?
IS HE A LAWYER FOR.
>> I THINK HE WOULD BE LOOSELY DESCRIBED AS THE BAD GUY.
WHAT IS SO COMPELLING.
>> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU MEAN LOOSELY, IS HE ONE OF THE HEADS
OF A MURDEROUS DRUG CARTELL, WHAT IS YOUR IDEA OF BAD.
>> WELL, THERE IS THAT, THAT'S TRUE.
BUT ALL KIDDING A SIDE, WHAT I FOUND COMPELLING FROM AN ACTOR'S
POINT OF VIEW WAS TO FINALLY-- THIS IS NOT UNFAMILY
TERRITORY, I HAVE PLAYED CARTELL MEMBERS BEFORE.
BUT WHAT THE FILMMAKER BRAD FURMAN WAS KEENLY INTERESTED IN
DOING WAS SHOWING THAT ALTHOUGH THIS GUY BY HIS OWN DEFINITION
IS MERELY CONDUCTING BUSINESS, WE KNOW IT IS A KIND OF
SOCIOPATHY THERE ARE DRUGS AND DEAD BODY NSES HIS WAKE WHEREVER
HE GOES.
>> Stephen: YEAH, YEAH, THAT IS A DOWNER.
>> HE DOES OPERATE BY A KIND OF MORAL CONDUCT THAT IS ON SOME
LEVEL A MIRROR IMAGE OF THE PROTAGONIST OF THE FILM.
IN FACT, IT IS THE KIND OF SET OF QUALITIES THAT BONDS THE TWO
TOGETHER AND CREATES A KIND OF FRIENDSHIP.
>> Stephen: DO THEY BECOME REAL FRIENDS.
>> THEY BECOME REAL FRIENDS.
SO BY THE END OF THE FILM, WHAT WE HAVE REALLY DISCOVERED IS
THAT AUDIENCE MEMBERS ARE DEEPLY CONFLICTED WHEN HE, IN FACT, IS
TAKEN DOWN.
AND THAT'S NOT GIVING THE ENDING AWAY, BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT
HAPPENS AT THE END OF THE TITANIC, THE SHIP DOES SINK.
THIS ACTUALLY DID HAPPEN.
>> Stephen: GREAT, GREAT, BUT JACK'S OKAY, RIGHT.
>> JACK'S OKAY.
>> Stephen: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
IT WAS LOVELY TO MEET YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Stephen: BENJAMIN BRATT.