We demonstrated in many other places.
We started in Bil'in.
I was invited to a demonstration even before the whole thing started,
when they started building Modi'in Illit,
which later became Matityahu – it kept changing names.
When it was just starting, they invited us and we made a big demonstration
with the leaders of the place.
Afterwards we had a second demonstration on behalf of one woman
whose land had been expropriated for Modi'in Illit,
and we went to demonstrate on her behalf like with Naboth's vineyard.
I don't know who invented the patent, them or us.
We had a demonstration like you see in the movies –
rows and rows of protestors. In the first row, people carried shovels and hoes,
I forgot what it was supposed to symbolise.
I think we went to work for the woman or something − symbolic work.
The soldiers who saw us were frightened. They were genuinely scared...
and started shooting over our heads.
We got into conversation with them, by the way,
and asked them what they were doing, they said: 'We were scared'.
We have a friend who is really a bit frightening,
a real kibbutznik with a huge moustache, like Stalin,
and he came with a hoe and they were simply scared of him.
We held demonstrations in all kinds of places.
I eventually came to the conclusion that the kind of demonstrations that people have these days −
100 people or 200 people − going from Rabin Square to the Museum or vice versa,
I doubt if this is still an effective tool.
Moreover, it is entirely dependent on the mercy of mass media.
Television stations might say: 'It's not interesting, it's routine, not interesting'.
If you do not promise them something completely novel, they simply don't come.
This is compared to demonstrations of 100,000 in Rabin Square
on anniversaries, or even more, demonstrations of over 400,000 during social protests.
But even these large demonstrations are ultimately of very little benefit.
Let's take the largest – the social protest demonstration which really was a huge demonstration.
In the final analysis, of what use was it?
It might have aroused some awareness,
but with regard to acts of government it didn't have any real impact.
That's what I think, and wonder what completely different means,
which have not yet been invented, are needed.
I think about a whole new peace movement
which has not yet been invented
and an entirely new political party which has not yet been created,
but all of this is for the future.