IMPEACHMENT TRIAL OF DONALD
TRUMP.
THANKS FOR JOINING US,
CONGRESSMAN, REALLY APPRECIATE
IT.
LIZ CHENEY THINKS THE TURNING
POINT IS NOW FOR THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY.
FEELS TO ME LIKE THEY MADE THEIR
TURN A WHILE AGO.
>> GOOD EVENING, LAWRENCE, GOOD
TO BE WITH YOU.
I CERTAINLY AGREE.
CLEARLY THERE WERE BLARGING
WARNING SIGNALS AS PRESIDENT
TRUMP WAS CANDIDATE TRUMP FOR
POTENTIAL FOR HIM TO UNDERMINE
THE RULE OF LAW IN OUR COUNTRY.
MANY AMERICANS SAW THOSE
SIGNALS, CLEARLY APPARENT TO
MOST AMERICANS, OBVIOUSLY I
AGREE WITH YOU THERE.
THAT SAID, LIZ CHENEY SHOULD BE
APPLAUDED FOR SPEAKING TRUTH TO
POWER NOW, AND HER COMPELLING
EDITORIAL SHOULD BE READ BY ALL
AMERICANS.
I AGREE THAT HISTORY IS WATCHING
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
WHAT IS MOST STRIKING TO ME IS
THE DIFFERENCES IN WAY IN WHICH
THE TWO MAJOR POLITICAL PARTIES
IN THE UNITED STATES HAVE
FUNCTIONED PAST 100 DAYS.
DEMOCRATS ARE FIGHTING FOR THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE, SMALL
BUSINESSES AND FAMILIES, KIDS.
TRYING TO SPEED UP VACCINATIONS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
REPUBLICANS ARE FIGHTING
THEMSELVES.
HAVING EXISTENTIAL DEBATE NOT
OVER POLICY BUT WHETHER OR NOT
THEY WILL RESPECT THE RULE OF
LAW AND DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS
LIKE LEGITIMACY OF THE
INSTITUTIONS AND IT’S CLEAR THAT
BATTLE IS GOING TO BE WON BY
HARD LINERS AND FAR RIGHT OF THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY AND
UNFORTUNATELY SEEMS TO BE NO
ROOM FOR FOLKS WHO TAKE MORE
REASONABLE VIEW AND BELIEVE IN
THE CORE FUNCTIONS OF OUR
CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.
>> YOU SAID THEY’RE FIGHTING
THEMSELVES.
WATCH ONE MEMBER OF THE HOUSE
WHO IS FIGHTING WITH HIMSELF.
LISTEN TO WHAT KEVIN McCARTHY
HAS SAID OVER TIME ABOUT THIS.
>> THE PRESIDENT BEARS
RESPONSIBILITY FOR WEDNESDAY’S
ATTACK ON CONGRESS BY MOB
RIOTERS.
HE SHOULD HAVE IMMEDIATELY
DENOUNCED THE MOB WHEN HE SAW
THAT WHAT WAS UNFOLDING I WAS
FIRST TO TALK TO HIM AFTER THE
RIOTS, HE DIDN’T SEE IT, TOLD ME
HE WOULD PUT OUT SOMETHING TO
STOP THIS.
THAT’S WHAT HE DID, PUT A VIDEO
OUT LATER.
>> KEVIN McCARTHY HAS BEEN
FIGHTING WITH HIMSELF EVER SINCE
HE DELIVERED CLEARLY THE BEST
SPEECH HIS CAREER WHEN HE SAID
THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS OF
COURSE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT
HAPPENED IN THE CAPITOL.
>> PERHAPS MOST INSIDIOUS PART
OF THE CHAIRRADE IS YOU HAVE FOL
LIKE THE MINORITY LEADER WHO
KNOW WHAT THEY’RE SAYING TODAY
DOESN’T COMPORT WITH THE FACTS.
HE KNEW THAT THE PRESIDENT BORE
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE
INSURRECTION ON JANUARY 6th, AS
DO MOST REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE
REPUBLICAN CAUCUS.
UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE UNWILLING
TO SPEAK THE TRUTH AND CHOOSE
COUNTRY OVER PARTY, AS YOU WERE,
AS THE CAUCUS CHAIRWOMAN LIZ
CHENEY SPOKE ABOUT IN EDITORIAL
IN THE "WASHINGTON POST" TODAY.
I THINK HISTORY IS WATCHING AND
DECISIONS MADE TODAY WILL RING
LOUDLY IN HISTORY IN COMING
YEARS.
I JUST WISH MORE REPUBLICANS
WOULD BE WILLING TO DO WHAT LIZ
CHENEY HAS DONE.
>> SEEMS THAT THE REPUBLICAN
STRATEGY, HOUSE STRATEGY FOR
THOSE MEMBERS IS TO WIN THEIR
PRIMARIES.
THEY ARE CONCERNED WITH NOT
HAVING SOMEONE WHO IS TRUMPIER
THAN THEY ARE CONFRONT THEM IN A
PRIMARY AND TAKE THAT NOMINATION
AWAY FROM THEM AS THE REPUBLICAN
CANDIDATE FOR THE HOUSE IN THEIR
DISTRICT.
SEEMS LIKE A PARTY ENTIRELY
CONCERNED WITH WINNING ITS OWN
PRIMARY WITHOUT ANY CONCERN
WHATSOEVER FOR WHAT VOTERS
OUTSIDE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
ARE THINKING.
>> I THINK THAT’S ABSOLUTELY
RIGHT, LAWRENCE.
BIG PART OF THEIR MOTIVATION OR
RATIONALIZATION IS THE FLAWED
INCENTIVE SYSTEM WE HAVE
UNFORTUNATELY IN OUR CURRENT
POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT.
MOST FOLKS RUNNING TO THE RIGHT
IN THEIR RESPECTIVE CAUCUS TO
WIN THEIR PRIMARIES.
ANOTHER REASON WE NEED TO PASS
HR-1 AND SR-1 THAT INCLUDES
REDISTRICTING REFORM, SIMILAR TO
THE MODEL WE HAVE IN COLORADO,
REDISTRICTING PERFORMED BY
NONPARTISAN, CITIZEN-LED
COMMISSION.
BUT END OF THE DAY I WOULD
SIMPLY SAY IT’S IMPORTANT FOR
THOSE HOUSE REPUBLICANS WHO
AGREE WITH LIZ CHENEY, WHO
UNDERSTAND THE GEOPOLITICAL
RAMIFICATIONS OF CONTINUING TO
PERPETUATE THE BIG LIE, WHO
RECOGNIZE WHAT HAPPENED ON
JANUARY 6th COULD HAPPEN AGAIN,
IT’S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO SPEAK
UP AND SPEAK UP NOW.
>> I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU WORK IN
LEGISLATIVE BODY WITH ANOTHER
PARTY, YOU ALWAYS WELCOME
SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN OPPONENT
TO YOUR SIDE WHENEVER THERE’S
ANY AREA OF AGREEMENT.
WHAT IS THE FEELING AMONG
DEMOCRATS IN THE HOUSE.
HEARING WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY
ABOUT LIZ CHENEY, WHAT ARE YOUR
COLLEAGUES FEELING ABOUT HER
POSITION TONIGHT?
>> FRANKLY, LAWRENCE, MOST OF
THE COLLEAGUES I’VE SPOKEN WITH
AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENTS
EXPRESSED BY PRESIDENT BIDEN
EARLY TODAY.
WE NEED HEALTHY PARTIES IN THE
UNITED STATES, HEALTHY POLITICAL
PARTIES FOR OUR REPUBLIC TO
FUNCTION IN THE WAY THE FRAMERS
AND FOUNDERS INTENDED.
YOU WANT TO SEE MORE SENSIBLE
VOICES EMERGE WITHIN THE HOUSE
REPUBLICAN CAUCUS, THAT’S
OUTCOME EVERY AMERICAN OUGHT TO
DESIRE AND WHAT IS HAPPENING TO
CHAIRWOMAN CHENEY IS DEEPLY
DISAPPOINTING IN TERMS OF THE
BROADER TREND LINES IT PORTENDS