NATURE. >> I SEE IT DIFFERENTLY NOW.
>> YOU’RE BEING NICE.
AND A SPOKESMAN FOR THE SPECIAL
COUNSEL JUST PUT OUT A STATEMENT
IN RESPONSE TO THE "BUZZFEED"
REPORT SAYING THE DESCRIPTION OF
SPECIFIC ELEMENTS TO SOCIAL
COUNSEL’S OFFICE, ARE NOT
ACCURATE.
ACCURATE. JONATHAN, I’M NOT SURE HOW YOU
READ THAT?
READ THAT? DO YOU READ IT AS COMPLETE
DENIAL THAT MICHAEL COHEN WAS
TOLD TO LIE TO CONGRESS BY THIS
STORY?
STORY? >> I’VE READ THE STATEMENT NOW
ABOUT FIVE OR SIX TIMES AND TWO
WORDS
WORDS JUMP OUT AT ME.
DESCRIPTION AND ACCURATE.
THEY’RE NOT SAYING IT’S FALSE.
THEY’RE SAYING --
>> ALL THIS FLACKERY LUNES IN
HISTORY --
HISTORY -- >> AND THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT
WAS SAID -- MAYBE I’M BEING
OVERLY LAWYER LIKE BUT THOSE
WERE TWO THINGS THAT JUMPED OUT
AT ME AND THE INTERSING THING
WILL BE HOW DO THE TWO "BUZZFEED
KWATS
KWATS "BUZZFEED" REPORTERS RESPOND?
>> WHY ARE THEY RESPONDING?
NO ONE RESPONDS TO NODDAU.
HASN’T RESPONDED TO ANYTHING IN
A YEAR
A YEAR >> THAT IS THE BIGGEST QUESTION
AND I CANT FIGURE OUT A
GOODANCER TO THAT.
WHAT I SEE IS DENIAL THAT THESE
THINGS WERE TOLD TO THE SPECIAL
PROSECUTOR’S OFFICE, TO THIS
OFFICE.
OFFICE. SO PERHAPS THEY OCCURRED,
PERHAPS THEY WERE TOLD TO A
DIFFERENT SET OF PROSECUTORS BUT
NOT THIS OFFICES.
BUT WHY HE WOULD GO TO THIS
LENGTHS TO DENY A STORY WHEN, AS
YOU SAY, THERE HAVE BEEN SOMANY
OTHER MISINFORMATION AND THE
SPECIAL COUNSEL HAS NEVER DONE
THAT IS VERY HARD TO PIERCE AND
FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GOING THROUGH
HIS MIND AND WHY HE WOULD GO TO
THAT EXTREME.
THAT EXTREME. >> IT JUST POPPED.
BUT THE STATEMENT CERTAINLY
RAISES MORE QUESTIONS THAN IT
ANSWERS, ESPECIALLY THE
STRANGENESS OF THE SPOKESMAN
THAT NEVER SPEAKS, WHICH IS THE
MUELLER SPOKESMAN ISSUING A
STATEMENT.
STATEMENT. >> WE HAVE ANOTHER PARTY, HIS
NOMIS DONALD TRUMP.
AND "GODFATHER II" LIKE, SAYING
I’LL GO AFTER YOUR FATHER IN
LAW.
LAW. IT REMINDS ME OF PANTANGELO’S
FATHER COMING BACK FROM SICILY.
>> IT’S PUBLIC, SO BIZARRE AND
SO ATROCIOUS.
SO ATROCIOUS. THAT AND THAT’S THE PATTERN OF
DONALD TRUMP.
DONALD TRUMP. IF HE DID THIS IN PRIVATE, IT
WOULD BE A HORROR SCANDAL.
HE DOES IT IN PUBLIC SO THEY
KIND OF TALK IT FOR GRANTED.
>> I DON’T WANT THE TRUTH.
>> AND HE DOES IT CONSISTENTLY.
THIS ISN’T THE FIRST TIME HE’S
GONE AFTER COHEN’S FATHER IN
LAW.
LAW. HE DID IT WITH JANENE PERO AND
ONCE BEFORE THAT.
HE’S TRYING TO PUT COHEN’S
FATHER --
FATHER -- >> LET ME GO TO ANY ON THIS.
BECAUSE TRUMP HAS THE
SCHOOL-YARD BULLY’S TECHNIQUE.
SNS
SNS SENSES ANYTHING ABOUT YOU, HE
GETS AFTER IT.
LITTLE OR ANYTHING, YOU DO
WHATEVER.
WHATEVER. IN THIS CASE HE THINKS MR. COHEN
IS WORRIED ABOUT HIS FATHER IN
LAW BECAUSE THAT MEANS HE’S
WORRIED ABOUT HIS WHOLE FAMILY.
BUT I THOUGHT THE FATHER’S LEGAL
BUSINESS WAS BEHIND HIM MANY
YEARS?
YEARS? IT’S OVER
IT’S OVER >> COHEN IS SOMEONE TRUMP KNOWS
REALLY WELL, SO HE WOULD KNOW
EIF THE FAMILY IS A
VULNERABILITY HERE.
VULNERABILITY HERE. THE TWEETS TODAY AT COHEN ARE
KIND OF IN LINE WITH HIM PUSHING
THE LIMIT OF WITNESS TAMPERING
AND WE’VE SEEN THIS GRAY AREA IN
THE PAST.
THE PAST. DEMANDING SESSIONS AND GOES
AFTER THAT LUNE A LOT IN TERM
OZES OF IS THIS WITNESS
TAMPERING OR SPOUTED OFF ON
TWITTER.
TWITTER. >> THE BIG STORY OF THE WEEK BUT
AS THIS WEEK GOES, AS SOMANY
WEEKS LATELY, EVERY DAY THE
STORY GETS TOPPED THE NEXT DAY
BY A BUGGER STORY.
I GET THE FEELING IS THE ONE
THAT’S GOING TO DLIEV HOUSE
IMPEACHMENT COMMITTEE.
IMPEACHMENT COMMITTEE. >> GOING TO HAVE HEARINGS AND I
THINK THIS POINTS TO I THINK A
VERY IMPORTANT POINT WHICH IS IF
THEY CAN FIND SOMETHING
CONCRETE, DISCRETE, EASILY
EXPLAUNEX
EXPLAUNEX EXPLAINED TO THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE, THAT WILL HAVE MUCH MORE
POWER THAN A COMPLICATED TALE
THAT TAKES LOTS OF RUSSIAN NAMES
TO EXPLAIN IT.
SO PERHAPS THIS IS TOO GOOD TO
BECHUCKED ON THIS STORY.
BUT THEY’RE GOING TO LOOK FOR
THESE DISCRETE PACKS THAT
REPUBLICANS IN THE PAST HAVE
BEEN ON RECORD ABOUT.
>> WOULDN’T IT BE GREAT?
LET’S BRING IN KEN DELANEY ON
THAT ONE.
THAT ONE. >> WELL, CRUSHRIS, THE SPECIAL
COUNSEL’S OFFICE HAS ISSUED AN
UNPRECEDENTED STATEMENT.
UNPRECEDENTED STATEMENT. "BUZZFEED"’S DESCRIPTION IS
SPECIFIC STATEMENTS TO THE
SPECIAL COUNSEL’S OFFICE AND
CHARACTERIZATION OF DOCUMENTS
AND TESTIMONY OBTAINED BY THIS
OFFICE REGARDING MICHAEL COHEN’S
CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY ARE NOT
ACCURATE.
ACCURATE. I CANNOT REMEMBER A STATEMENT
LIKE THAT COMING FROM MUELLER’S
OFFICE ABOUT ANY NEWS REPORT,
PRO OR CON, IN THE HISTORY OF
THE SPECIAL COUNSEL’S OFFICE.
LET’S BE CLEAR THEY’RE NOT
DISPUTING THE IDEA THAT MICHAEL
COHEN IS TESTIFYING THAT TRUMP
ASKED HIM TO LIE.
WHAT THEY’RE DISPUTING IS ALL
THIS CORROBORATING EVIDENCE THEY
SEIZED
SEIZED SEIZED FROM THE TRUMP
ORGANIZATION AND ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT LENT IT CREDIBILITY.
>> THEY HAD CUSTODY OF THOSE
DOCUMENTS AND THEY DON’T WANT
THE WORD TO GET OUT SOMEBODY GOT
TO THEM BECAUSE THAT MEANT
SOMEBODY PUT THEM OUT.
BY THE WAY NOT ACCURATE’S AN OLD
TERM FOR FLACKS.
IT MEANS -- IN CERTAIN IOTAS, IT
WASN’T QUITE TRUE BUT DOESN’T
DENY THE THRUST OF THE ARTICLE.
>> NO, BUT THEY ARE DISPUTING --
I READ THIS AS THE SPECIAL
COUNSEL IS DISPUTING THEY HAVE
OBTAINED EVIDENCE FROM THE TRUMP
ORGANIZATION, EMAILS, DOCUMENTS
AND TESTIMONY SAYING THAT DONALD
TRUMP ASKED MICHAEL COHEN TO
LIE.
LIE. I’VE BEEN SAYING THIS ON THE
AIR.
AIR. THAT IS HARD TO BELIEVE PEOPLE
WOULD PUT THAT IN WRITING
INTECTS MESSAGES AND EMAILS.
TRUMP WANTS CON TO LIE TO
CONGRESS.
CONGRESS. THAT WAS THE HARDEST PART TO
BELIEVE AND THE THING THAT
SUGGESTED IT WAS CORROBORATED.