>>> SO NOT ONLY THE DID DONALD
TRUMP RANT DURING CLOSING
ARGUMENTS IN HIS CIVIL FRAUD
TRIAL, HE ALSO ATTACKED THE
TESTIMONY OF HIS FORMER LAWYER
AND FIXER MICHAEL COHEN JUST
AFTER. LISTEN.
>> HE'S A CONVICTED FELON AND
NOT A GOOD PERSON.
THAT'S THEIR ONLY WITNESS.
HE'S NOW CRASHED AND BURNED.
THEY HAVE NO WITNESSES.
BY THE WAY, THAT WITNESS TOOK
BACK EVERYTHING THAT HE SAID.
IN COURT, HE TOOK IT ALL BACK.
>> HERE NOW IS MICHAEL COHEN,
FORMER ATTORNEY FOR DONALD
TRUMP, AUTHOR OF "REVENGE."
MICHAEL, NICE TO SEE YOU.
I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO
RESPOND TO WHAT DONALD TRUMP
SAID.
>> IS THERE REALLY A REASON TO
RESPOND?
HE MAKES THESE CLAIMS ON A
REGULAR BASIS.
NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THAT
THEY ATTEMPT TO DENIGRATE ME AND
TO IMPUGN MY CREDIBILITY, THE
ONE THING THAT WE ALL KNOW, THE
ONE THING THAT DONALD KNOWS,
WHICH IS WHY HE LOOKS SO
TERRIBLE, IT'S WHY HE LOOKS SO
NERVOUS AND PREOCCUPIED IS THAT
IT'S COMING.
HE DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY
IT.
WHY NOT ATTACK THE WITNESS AND
ATTACK THE JUDGE, WHY NOT ATTACK
THE JUDGE'S LAW CLERK, AATTACK
EVERYBODY BECAUSE WHAT DONALD
TRUMP KNOWS IS THAT HE WAS INTO
THE BUSINESS BY HIS FATHER TO
WHICH HE DESTROYED AND NOW IT'S
GOING TO BE HIS LEGACY.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FACTS OF
WHAT HE SAID.
YOU DID NOT RECANT YOUR
TESTIMONY ON THE WITNESS STAND.
WHAT'S HE REFERRING TO?
>> I HAVE NO IDEA.
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU'D
HAVE TO ASK HIM BECAUSE ONLY
DONALD KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON
INSIDE DONALD'S HEAD.
HE MAKES THINGS UP.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY
JUMPED OUT OF THE COURTROOM
SCREAMING, WE WON, WE WON, IS
WHEN THEY ASKED ME A QUESTION
ABOUT SPECIFICALLY DID DONALD
TRUMP TELL ME TO INFLATE THE
NUMBERS, AND THE TERM
SPECIFICALLY IS VERY SPECIFIC.
HE DID NOT.
BUT WHAT THEY DECIDED TO DO IS
TO IGNORE HOW I CONTINUE, WHICH
WAS THAT DONALD TRUMP SPEAKS
LIKE A MOB BOSS.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPECIFICALLY
SAY SOMETHING, ESPECIALLY WHEN
YOU'RE WITH THE GUY FOR OVER A
DECADE, WHEN YOU KNOW EXACTLY
WHAT HE WANT THES YOU TO DO, YOU
DO EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTS YOU TO
DO. AND HE SIGNS OFF ON IT.
IT'S JUST THE DISTINCTION
BETWEEN EXPLICIT AND IMPLICIT.
>> SO YOU DID PLEAD GUILTY TO
LYING TO CONGRESS.
YOU DID ADMIT JUST ABOUT A MONTH
AGO THAT YOU SENT CITATIONS,
LEGAL CITATIONS THAT DID NOT
EXIST BECAUSE YOU FOUND THEM ON
AI TO YOUR ATTORNEY.
AND YOU KNEW THAT THIS WAS GOING
TO COME UP IN THIS TRIAL.
YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO COME UP
IF AND WHEN YOU ARE A WITNESS IN
OTHER TRIALS, INCLUDING ALAN
BRAGG'S CASE.
YOU WERE A LAWYER FOR A LONG
TIME. HOW DO YOU THINK A JURY SEES YOU
AS A WITNESS?
>> OKAY.
GREAT QUESTION.
THANKS FOR ASKING IT.
LET ME BE VERY CLEAR.
THE LIE, I WILL SAY IT A MILLION
TIMES, AND I'M GOING TO SAY IT,
THE LIE THAT I TOLD CONGRESS WAS
THE NUMBER THE OF TIMES THAT I
STATED I SPOKE TO DONALD TRUMP
ABOUT THE FAILED TRUMP TOWER
MOSCOW REAL ESTATE PROJECT.
DONALD, HIS TEAM, AND DON'T
FORGET IT WASN'T JUST ME, IT WAS
IVANKA, IT WAS JARED, IT WAS TY
COBB, WE ALL WORKED ON THIS
LETTER, WHICH I DID PRESENT AND
I PUT INTO EVIDENCE BEFORE
CONGRESS.
THEY WANT ED ME TO SAY THE NUMBR
THREE.
THAT I SPOKE TO TRUMP ABOUT IT
THREE TIMES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
DONALD WANTED.
IT WAS ON HIS -- IT'S WHAT HE
WANTED.
THE REAL ANSWER WAS TEN.
AND IF ANYBODY WOULD RETURN
AROUND AND SAY THAT MY
CREDIBILITY IS IMPUGNED BECAUSE
OF THE THREE VERSUS TEN, THERE'S
NOTHING I CAN DO TO CHANGE THEIR
MIND. AS FAR AS THE AI IS CONCERNED, I
WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS.
YES, I WENT ON GOOGLE, BECAUSE I
DON'T HAVE WESTLAW.
NOW THAT I'M GOING TO GO FOR MY
LICENSE APPLICATION, I'M GOING
TO ASK FOR IT TO BE REINSTATED,
SO I USED WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A
VERY POWERFUL AI TOOL.
IT'S PART OF GOOGLE.
AND IT PRULSED 100 DIFFERENT
CITATIONS, WHICH I FORWARDED TO
MY LAWYER.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT
SOMETHING.
MY OTHER LAWYER FOUND THE
MISTAKE WE NOTIFIED THE THE
JUDGE BEFORE THE JUDGE THAT
ACKNOWLEDGED OR KNEW THEY WERE
INACCURATE AND DIDN'T
ACKNOWLEDGE OR NOTICE THAT WE
DID AND WE SENT PROPER CITATIONS
THAT EXACTLY ARE ON POINT TO
WHAT WE WANTED, WHICH IS THE
FACT THAT THESE DETERMINATIONS
ARE SUPERVISED RELEASE.
THAT'S ALL THAT IT WAS.
SO ONCE AGAIN, I DON'T THINK
EITHER OF THESE WILL HAVE ANY
EFFECTS UPON MY CREDIBILITY.
>> YOU WANT YOUR TAKE ON ONE OF
THE THINGS HE IS NOW TRYING.
PERHAPS TO MITIGATE THIS NOTION
OUT THERE THAT HE'S SORT OF BEEN
RUNNING ON THAT IF HE IS ELECTED
PRESIDENT AGAIN, IT WILL BE A
PERIOD OF RETRIBUTION.
LISTEN TO WHAT HE'S SAYING NOW.
>> I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE TIME
FOR RETRIBUTION.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS COUNTRY
SO SUCCESSFUL AGAIN.
AND REMEMBER THIS.
OUR ULTIMATE RETRIBUTION IS
SUCCESS.
>> WHAT'S YOUR VIEW OF THAT?
>> I HOPE THAT HE'S TELLING THE
TRUTH.
UNFORTUNATELY, I KNOW THAT HE'S
NOT. DONALD IS A VERY VINDICTIVE
HUMAN BEING.
TAKE A LOCK AT SOME OF THE
STATEMENTS THAT HE MADE.
IF YOU PUNCH HIM, HE WANTS TO
HIT YOU BACK TENNESSEE TIMES
HARDER.
THAT'S WHO HE IS.
HE WON'T DO IT HIMSELF.
HE WILL JUST HAVE SEAL TEAM 6 DO
IT. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO DONALD
TRUMP IS, JUST LISTEN TO HIM.
LISTEN TO WHAT HE IS SAYING.
THIS IN FRONT OF THE IOWA
AUDIENCE, IT'S AN ABSOLUTE LIE.
HE'S GOING TO SPEND THE NEXT
FOUR YEARS, GOD FORBID, HE'S
REELECTED, VINDICATING
RETRIBUTION, CAUSING CHAOS AND
DESTRUCTION TO THIS COUNTRY.
THE ONLY PERSON WHO WILL BENEFIT
WILL BE DONALD TRUMP AND NO ONE
ELSE. >> MICHAEL COHEN, WE APPRECIATE
YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
THANK YOU FOR COMING IN.