I don't think we should fight a war against China.
I definitely think we should not fight a war against Russia.
But you can't say the world is gonna be a better place when China and
Russia control the majority of it.
You just can't say that.
I'm sorry, you just can't, can't.
And yet they're making that a dead certainty.
>> I thought Trump said he could close that in 24 hours if he wanted to.
Do you think he could?
>> I have no idea I mean, he couldn't build a border wall in 4years.
So there is a gap between promises and
delivery with all politicians very much including him.
>> Tuckey, Tuckey, the gloves are off the gloves.
>> [LAUGH] Tuckey that's a new one.
>> How about you repeat those comments on Fox News and see how it works out for you.
Okay, Mr. Coward on Fox while you're internally terrified of Donald Trump
supporters, you have big mouth when, when you're on your, what is it?
The Full Send podcast, I guess.
>> Yeah, it's interesting.
That's such a great point because he goes on these other shows and
admits things that he doesn't say on Fox News.
It's so interesting.
And obviously, I think the real importance of this story is Tucker and
others are being to throw Trump under a bus more aggressively.
And remember Tucker is not from the establishment wing,
he's not doing Mitch McConnell's bidding.
He's not.
So this is a different thing.
And remember Tucker is really burning the house down on Fox News.
He might be costing him a lot of money with his segments that he's doing while
they're being sued.
So our theory has been all along that at some point, he's gonna say something so
outrageous Fox News is gonna have to fire him.
He then becomes a martyr and runs and who would he run against Donald Trump?
Who couldn't build a border wall in 4 years and
wait till you see what else he says.
>> Well, why don't we get to that right now?
>> I will say in Trump's defense and maybe because he's a little bit autistic,
he saw the stakes of this, like at the very beginning, he's like you don't want.
And this is what I do love about Trump, particularly in foreign policy.
He sees the big stuff.
He's like, wait, you've got Russia and China, they don't trust each other.
We can't let them get together, they'll kick our ass and we'll be,
we're not gonna fight a war against them one hopes, but
we'll definitely be taking orders from them, definitely.
No and he said that 5 years ago when everyone's like, shut up racist.
[LAUGH] He's a racist, but is he wrong?
>> Alright so a lot of ass kissing, but
let's not forget the smooth way he slipped in Trump's a little bit autistic.
>> Yeah, I mean, look, he's telling you that he's,
that Trumps a dum dum without saying it.
I mean autistic. >> Which by the way being autistic doesn't
automatically mean that you're dumb.
It doesn't mean anything.
>> 100%. >> I want to be clear about that.
>> But to the Right Wing audience, he's saying a little autistic,
then he's saying he can you see the big picture?
Meaning but he can't figure out any of the details because ain't that bright, right?
So that's a lot of kidney blows to Donald Trump while kind of agreeing with him.
>> And remember the kidney blows are a lot more harsh as he's exchanging messages
with his colleagues over at Fox News.
Thanks to the Dominion defamation lawsuit against Fox.
We have seen some of those messages including this statement from
Tucker Carlson to one of his colleagues on January 4th,2021.
I hate him, meaning Trump passionately.
What he's good at is destroying things.
He's the undisputed world champion of that.
He could easily destroy us if we play it wrong,
meaning play the election coverage wrong.
Carlson and his text exchange with a colleague expressed his ultimate
frustration with Trump's administration.
"We're all pretending we've got a lot to show for
it because admitting what a disaster it's been is too tough to digest," he wrote.
But come on, there really isn't an upside to Trump.
>> Is that the sense you got from watching Tucker Carlson during the Trump years?
Isn't that amazing what kind of a liar he is.
Internally, he thinks Trump was a disaster and got nothing done.
But on Fox, he told you 4 years ago this guy is great.
Yeah, Trump and the liberals are so unfair to him, right.
But another reason that you're now seeing these quotes in a podcast that he did
is because he knows those quotes are out there and he's trying to square the two.
Well I thought Trump didn't get enough done and
that's why I was saying that behind the scenes.
But I mean, he's better than the other option, which is the no good Libs.
So that's why.
>> Guys listen, I know this without a shadow of a doubt.
Everyone hates Trump except for the voters, the Republican voters.
Okay I know the business community has hated Trump for a long time.
I know that based on conversations I had at the Pennsylvania Chamber of Commerce
back in October of 2021.
As I was about to debate Ben Shapiro before the Pennsylvania Chamber of
Commerce.
>> Anna I know left wing businessman, right wing businessman,
neutral businessman.
I've never met one that didn't think Trump was the dumbest man they'd ever met.
No one respects him.
And guys, if you're a Trump voter and you love him I know why you love him.
Don't get me wrong I know better than all these guys.
It's because he told the establishment to go f off and you love that because
you've been dying for somebody to say that for so long and you're right about that.
I just wish it was someone who was smart and who had your best interests in mind.
>> Exactly.
Now, as with most messaging on the Right Wing, it seems like this,
by the way, let me just say, like, it's so gross to insult autistic people.
But apparently that is the insult they've decided to go with because it's not just
Deborah Carlson who said that about Donald Trump.
There was someone else as well.
Let's watch.
>> What do you make of all these texts from the Fox News people saying they
didn't buy the election fraud stuff but
they had to delicately tread around that topic?
>> I know all about it.
Yeah, I can tell you all about it.
I don't wanna hurt any friends of mine, but here's what happened.
I mean, Trump used to stuff, like, call my wife up.
Like one day I walk in the house and my wife's like, Trump's no phone and
this is like, 6 years ago, 5 years ago.
I go, really?
I go, hey, Alex, I'm talking to your wife right now and then she hangs up the phone
she goes, yeah, he just spent 15 minutes telling me you've got a reel man.
Your husband's the man.
I mean, Trump is like, he's autistic and he's very charismatic and
he's very like, conversations with Trump on the phone are not what's on TV.
Slick I mean, like he's sucking your,
I'm telling these stories because they're true.
And to me I told them, I said, dude, I don't want to be told how bad ass I am.
I'm not that badass.
I want you to arrest the deep state.
>> I don't think that phone call ever happened.
[LAUGH] There's no way.
>> No, I don't know about that.
>> Really, the president of the United States was on the phone
with Alex Jones wife to tell her what a man Alex Jones is.
>> No, I believe it, I'll tell you what.
That's such an interesting.
Was it really 15 minutes, probably.
>> Cenk, none of it happened.
>> I don't know.
And I look, it's funny, this debate is hilarious.
>> Obama called my husband back in 2012 to tell him that,
you got a beautiful wife, the smartest, most beautiful wife in the entire world.
That totally did happen back in 2012 when I wasn't married yet.
But nonetheless, it happened.
>> Go ahead Cenk.
>> But Anna Obama would never do that.
First of all, he'd be calling someone from his own base.
>> Cenk. >> He would never do that.
>> I'm not even having a debate about this.
We're talking about Alex Jones, he lies about everything.
He's insane.
>> No, I know they're both giant liars.
So it doesn't matter if that call happened or not.
Trump loves to compliment people on his side.
Remember at that point,
he's trying to get a favor from Alex Jones in publicizing him, etcetera.
None of that matters, what matters is Alex Jones is telling
a Right Wing audience that Trump was trying to suck his.
>> What the hell?
Okay and that Trump and that Trump is autistic, right?
So remember we don't think that that means what they think it means, but
that's them in their backwards way calling him dumb.
So this is a fascinating turn of events.
>> To my Republican brothers and sisters out there don't you deserve better?
Like no, but seriously, I mean, it, I mean, we might disagree on so
many policies and that's fine, that's okay.
But don't you deserve better?
Like are these your heroes?
Come on, we need to find better heroes.
>> No, absolutely.
>> Come on.
You look at that sweaty tooth madman talking about the former president wanting
to perform oral sex on him and you're like, no, nailed it, nailed it.
This is where I get my news.
Like how did this happen?
>> All right, let me say one last thing about that.
Look Bernie Sanders is a really wonderfully decent man and
an honest man, right.
But we criticize him anyway, from time to time when he deserves it, right.
And so look, my main issue with Bernie Sanders is that he just will not take on
establishment democrats.
And that is blocking so
many things if he would just aggressively take them on and if AOC and
just Democrats, they all did it, I think it would make a giant difference.
See, we're looking for someone better when we already have someone who's
really honest and fighting for us.
And we're like, well, yeah, but it's not exactly getting the job done.
We have really high standards, right?
Whereas Republicans, you're like, Trump didn't get anything done except tax cuts
for the rich and deregulation of the banks that blew up and
deregulation of trains that blew up in my neighborhood.
But, and everyone on our side thinks he's a liar and an idiot.
But that's the best I can do.
Really come on, man it's a country of 330 million people.
Find a conservative that's strong and smart.
And is there a single conservative leader that actually
has your best interests in mind?
We all gotta do better, man.
We gotta have leaders who are for us willing to take on the powerful and
get the job done.
And so far there really to be fair,
the Right Wing has anyone on the left gotten the job done, right?
So a lot of leaders that are not at all leaders.
It's just a ton of theater that's just kind of puts us in a miserable shape.
But back to Trump and Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones,
this ship is turning, it is turning against Trump.
And so what happens when these guys turn is a completely different question.
This is the biggest roller coaster I've ever seen Trump looked like he was badly
damaged after the midterm elections.
He attacks the DeSantis like crazy.
DeSantis doesn't counter him.
All of a sudden, Trump is way back up.
But now Tucker and Alex Jones are turning on him.
That's the base of the base, right?
So now Trump is back doing a little bit of trouble.
So who knows?
>> No I'd like to disagree.
I don't think that Trump is in a little bit of trouble.
I think that Tucker Carlson is as cowardly as he is on Fox News where he avoids ever
criticizing Donald Trump because Donald Trump runs the show and he knows it.
So, I don't know, I guess we'll see what happens, but
the top insult comic in the country is Donald Trump.
I don't know how he does.
It doesn't matter who he's insulting,
it could be one of the most powerful Right Wingers in the media or in politics.
He just has this ability to cut people down to size.
It's insane.
>> Yeah and right now he's kind of running against Right Wing media not against
an opponent because Rhonda DeSantis is nowhere to be found.
I think I saw him on a milk carton but
outside of that he hasn't had any guts to fight back against Donald Trump.
So, let's see how that develops too.