COMMERCIAL AIRLINES TO HELP
TRANSPORT PEOPLE.
MARTHA?
>> THANKS, MIKE.
MY NEXT GUEST SAYS THAT WE’VE
BEEN SO FOCUSED IN THIS COUNTRY
ON MICRO AGGRESSION THAT WE HAVE
LOST SIGHT OF MACROAGGRESSIONS
HAPPENING TO WOMEN BEFORE OUR EYES ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
EYES ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
ALLEY HERSEY, WHITE ISLAM NEEDS
A REFIRMION NOW.
THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
YOU POINT OUT THERE’S A LOT OF
HYPOCRISIES EMBEDDED IN THE WAY
THAT WE ARE HANDLING ALL OF
THIS, THE WAY WE’RE TREATING
THESE PEOPLE.
YOU POINT OUT THE LGBTQ FLAG
THAT WAS FLOWN AT THE U.S.
EMBASSY IN KABUL A SHORT TIME
AGO.
I REMEMBER COVERING THAT STORY,
THAT THAT FLAG WAS A SYMBOL FOR
THIS STATE DEPARTMENT OF WHEN
THEY CARE ABOUT.
NOW YOU THINK THAT THERE’S A
REAL DOUBLE EDGE HERE.
>> ABSOLUTELY, MARTHA.
THIS IS TRAGIC.
I KNOW SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAY
THAT.
THE FIRST TIME I HAD WHISPERS OF
WE’RE GOING TO WITHDRAW FROM
AFGHANISTAN, I SAID THAT IS
STUPID, IRRESPONSIBLE,
DANGEROUS.
YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THIS
UNFOLDING.
I HAVE LISTENED TO PEOPLE MAKE A
DIFFERENCE CASE.
I DON’T MEAN TO SAY I TOLD YOU
SO, BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT
IF YOU LIKE AT WHATHAPPENED IN
THE LAST -- I DON’T KNOW -- SINCE THE KILLING OF JUDGE
SINCE THE KILLING OF JUDGE
FLOYD, I THINK WE WENT IN OF
RACISM.
AMERICA IS JUST A VERY BAD
PLACE, VERY BAD PEOPLE.
WE ENTERED THIS RABBIT HOLE OF
MICROAGGRESSIONS AND THEN MAKE A
DECISION LIKE THIS ONE.
IT’S ONE OF A MACROAGGRESSION.
THE TALIBAN MEAN BUSINESS.
THEY ARE CRUEL PEOPLE.
THEY’RE BAD PEOPLE WITH A
TERRIBLE IDEOLOGY.
WE’RE NOT PREPARED FOR IT
BECAUSE OUR NAVY IS BEING TOLD
TO READ "HOW TO BE AN ANTI
RACIST."
THIS IS THE THING THAT WE’VE
BEEN TALKING ABOUT OVER AND OVER
AGAIN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
NO ONE TOOK US SERIOUSLY.
NOW, THE WORLD IS LOOKING AT
AMERICA, LOOKING AT THIS
CONFLICT AND THINKING ABOUT GOOD
GUYS AND BAD GUYS.
THE BAD GUYS ARE THE TALIBAN.
THEY’RE LOOKING AT THE WHITE
HOUSE.
IT’S CARTOONS TAKEN TO A BIG
LEVEL.
I JUST WALK THE PRESS
CONFERENCE.
THEY DON’T EVEN KNOW HOW TO LIE
ANYMORE.
>> Martha: I HAVE A PICTURE OF A
U.S. MARINE HOLDING A BABY.
I’M THINKING ABOUT WHAT LARA
LOGAN WAS SAYING ABOUT THE
GROUND SWELL IN THIS COUNTRY.
THERE’S AMAZING THINGS GOING ON
BEHIND THE SCENES.
YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE
ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE WORKING
ON THEIR OWN TO TRY TO GET
PEOPLE OUT BECAUSE THE STATE
DEPARTMENT WAS NOT ABLE TO GET
THEM PEOPLE THE PAPERWORK THAT
THEY NEEDED AND TO GET IT DONE
IN AND EXPEDITION WAYS.
YOU HAVE CATHOLIC CHARITIES,
SENATORS ON CAPITOL HILL WORKING
ON THEIR OWN ORGANIZATIONS WITH
TRYING TO GET PEOPLE OUT.
SO THERE IS AN UNDERLYING VERY
STRONG GOOD HEART IN THIS
COUNTRY THAT IS REALLY FEELING
THE PAIN OF THESE PEOPLE AND
RESPONDING TO IT IN AN ENORMOUS
WAY.
AND YET THERE’S A DISCONNECT OF
WHAT WE’RE HEARING AT THE
PODIUMS.
>> THIS IS ALWAYS THERE
AMERICANS ARE ALWAYS LIKE THAT.
THEY RISE TO THE OCCASION.
IT’S ABSOLUTELY TRUE THAT IF YOU
ASK THE AVERAGE AMERICAN SHOULD
WE GET OUT OF THAT WAR, THEY SAY
PLEASE.
AMERICANS DON’T WANT TO WAGE
CONTINUOUS WARS.
WHEN THE CALLING COMES, WHEN
THEY SEE THESE IMAGES, AMERICANS
WILL GIVE EVERYTHING THEY HAVE
TO RESCUE, TO RESUSCITATE, TO
HELP.
SO THIS WHOLE NOTION THAT WE’RE
A RACIST COUNTRY, BIGOTED, ALL
OF THAT.
THROW THAT OUT OF THE WINDOW.
WHAT IS TRUE AND WHAT IS REALLY
ALARMING IS THAT THE PEOPLE THAT
RUN BUSINESS, THE PEOPLE THAT WE
ELECTED TO RUN OUR GOVERNMENT
ARE TOTALLY INCOMPETENT.
I LISTEN TO ONE MORE THING.
IT’S ONE OF THOSE LITTLE LIES
THAT GOES BY WHERE JAKE SULLIVAN
SAYS THERE’S GROUPS OF PEOPLE
THE TALIBAN ARE ALLOWING
THROUGH.
THEN HE SAID SIV HOLDERS.
THE TALIBAN LOOK AT THE SIV
HOLDERS, THE PEOPLE THAT THEY
THINK OF AS TREASONERS THAT WORK
WITH AMERICANS.
THEY’RE NOT GOING TO LET THEM
THROUGH THE CHECKPOINTS.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
WHO DOES HE THINK WE ARE?
THAT HAVE THE DISCONNECT.
THE GENERAL AMERICAN PUBLIC,
EVERYONE HERE, JUST WANTS THIS
TO END.
THEY WANT TO HELP AS MUCH AS
THEY CAN.
IT’S THIS WHITE HOUSE THAT
STARTED IT, IT’S ABSOLUTELY
UNNECESSARY.
THERE’S NO NEED TO PULL OUT OF
AFGHANISTAN AND NO NEED TO PULL
OUT OF AFGHANISTAN THE WAY THEY
DID.
THAT IS A STAIN ON THEM.
SHAME ON THEM.
>> Martha: THANK YOU, AYAAN.
ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.