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♪. MELISSA: SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE
POMPEO SLAMMING CHINA TROUBLING
DOWN ON U.S. CONCERNS OVER
CHINESE LABS.
CHINESE LABS. TAKE A LISTEN.
>> I CAN TELL YOU THERE ARE,
WERE REAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE
LABS INSIDE OF CHINA.
I HAVE TO SAY I’M STILL
CONCERNED THAT THE CHINESE
COMMUNIST PARTY IS NOT TELLING
US WHAT IS TAKING PLACE IN ALL
OF THE LABS ACROSS CHINA TODAY.
MELISSA: HERE IS NOW RETIRED
FOUR-STAR GENERAL JACK KEANE,
FOX NEWS SENIOR STRATEGIC
ANALYST.
ANALYST. HARD TO KNOW WHERE TO START WITH
THIS ONE.
THIS ONE. DO YOU BELIEVE ANYTHING THE
CHINESE ARE SAYING NOW?
>> NO, THE ONLY THING I DO
BELIEVE THEY HAVE A MAJOR
DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN OUT
THERE, TO KIND OF CONVINCE
PEOPLE THEY’RE NO THE
INTERNATIONAL PARIAH THAT THEY
HAVE BECOME.
HAVE BECOME. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH SECRETARY
POMPEO.
POMPEO. AT THIS LATE DATE THE CHINESE
ARE ACTUALLY CLOSING THE DOOR ON
ANYONE COMING INTO CHINA TO HELP
THEM DISCOVER WHAT IS THE TRUE
ORIGIN OF THIS CORONAVIRUS WHICH
HAS ABSOLUTELY GONE AROUND THE
ENTIRE WORLD.
ENTIRE WORLD. THAT IN OF ITSELF, THERE WAS NO
OTHER ADVERSE BEHAVIOR WOULD BE
ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
BUT THE FACT THAT THEY
CONTRIBUTED TO THE SPREAD OF
THIS BY PERMITTING INTERNATIONAL
FLIGHTS ALL OVER THE WORLD, WELL
AFTER THEY KNEW THEY HAD AN
EPIDEMIC, THAT IS CRIMINAL
BEHAVIOR BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE
DYING AS A RESULT OF THAT
PANDEMIC THAT, WHOSE LIVES COULD
HAVE BEEN PRESERVED OBVIOUSLY.
I THINK AT SOME POINT, WHEN THIS
DIES DOWN TO A CERTAIN DEGREE,
YOU WILL SEE THE UNITED STATES
AND INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY TRY
TO STITCH TOGETHER AT LEAST AN
INTERNATIONAL INVESTIGATIVE BODY
TO TRY TO DETERMINE THE FACTS OF
THE CASE AND WHAT HAPPENED.
SO YOU UNDERSTAND, MELISSA, THE
PUBLIC IMAGE OF THE CHINESE
COMMUNIST PARTY MEANS EVERYTHING
TO ME, MEANS EVERYTHING TO THEM.
THEIR INTERNATIONAL IMAGE, EVEN
MORE IMPORTANT IS THEIR DOMESTIC
IMAGE.
IMAGE. THEY DO NOT WANT THE PEOPLE IN
CHINA TO LOSE CONFIDENCE IN THIS
CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY AND ITS
ABILITY TO DELIVER TO THEM AS
RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE A HUGE
CAMPAIGN THAT’S IDENTIFYING
PRESIDENT XI AS A GREAT NATIONAL
HERO FOR KEEPING THEM ALIVE AND
EXPLAINING ALL THE MEASURES THAT
THEY TOOK.
THEY TOOK. THEN THEY LOOK AT EUROPE AND
THEY LOOK AT UNITED STATES AS
EXAMPLES OF HOW NOT TO DO IT.
THESE DEMOCRACIES ARE
INCOMPETENT GOVERNMENTS, THEY’RE
DYSFUNCTIONAL.
DYSFUNCTIONAL. LOOK WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. WE PROTECTED OUR PEOPLE.
MELISSA: THEY CONTROL THE
MESSAGE?
MESSAGE? >> OH, YEAH, THEY USE
STATE-OWNED MEDIA.
STATE-OWNED MEDIA. MELISSA: THEY CONTROL THE
MESSAGE.
MESSAGE. THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT
THAT.
THAT. WE CAN’T BATTLE WHAT THE MESSAGE
IS INTERNALLY ON THE OUTSIDE.
>> YES WE CAN, I DISAGREE WITH
YOU.
YOU. MELISSA: OKAY.
MELISSA: OKAY. >> I DISAGREE WITH YOU, YES WE
CAN, YES WE CAN.
THEY GET ACCESS TO PIECES OF
INFORMATION.
INFORMATION. THERE IS PEOPLE MOVING IN AND
OUT OF CHINA ALL THE TIME.
CHINESE COMING BACK FROM VISITS
ALL OVER THE WORLD.
THEY GET PLENTY OF INFORMATION
FROM THAT.
FROM THAT. THERE IS OTHER KINDS OF VISITORS
THAT WILL BE THERE, NOT
CERTAINLY NOW WHILE THE EPIDEMIC
IS ON.
IS ON. ALL THAT WILL RETURN.
THEY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO
INFORMATION.
INFORMATION. WHY WHAT WE’RE DOING
INTERNATIONALLY IS VERY
IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT DOES IMPACT
ON THE KNOWLEDGE LEVEL,
APPRECIATION WHAT IS HAPPENING
INSIDE OF CHINA.
MELISSA: OKAY.
MELISSA: OKAY. THAT’S GOOD TO KNOW.
NEW QUESTIONS SURROUNDING
KIM JONG-UN’S HEALTH.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING ON
WITH THAT ONE?
IT FEELS LIKE WE’RE NO CLOSER TO
KNOWING WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON
THAN WE WERE A WEEK AGO AS WE
CONTINUE TO SPECULATE WHY WE’RE
NOT SEEING HIM.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING ON
AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
>> WELL, IT IS PROBLEM WE HAVE
WITH THIS CLOSED REGIME,
CERTAINLY, AND IT’S BEEN THIS
WAY, YOU KNOW FOR THE SIX PLUS
DECADES THEY HAVE BEEN IN POWER.
EBAUCHES LIKE HIS FATHER AND HIS
GRANDFATHER.
GRANDFATHER. ALSO THIS IS ANOTHER REGIME
ABSOLUTELY PARANOID IN SHOWING
ANY WEAKNESS, NOT SO MUCH TO THE
WORLD BUT THEIR OWN POPULATION.
EVEN HAVING A LITTLENESS IN
THEIR MIND IS A WEAKNESS.
KIM JONG-UN IS PORTRAYED AS A
DEITY IN HESS COUNTRY, THAT IS
ALL POWERFUL.
ALL POWERFUL. ANY KIND OF A VISIBLE SIGN
THINGS ARE NOT RIGHT TO HIS
POPULATION, THEY WILL TRY TO
PROTECT.
PROTECT. CLEARLY ADMINISTRATION KNOWS
MORE, MELISSA THAN THEY WANT TO
TALK TO US ABOUT.
I THINK WE CAN DRAW A COUPLE
CONCLUSIONS.
CONCLUSIONS. IT SEEMS APPARENT HE IS LIKELY
ALIVE BECAUSE THE
ADMINISTRATION, THE PRESIDENT
AND SECRETARY POMPEO, WE’VE NOT
SEEN HIM.
SEEN HIM. THE PRESIDENT IS WISHING HIM
WELL.
WELL. I DON’T THINK HE WOULD BE DOING
THAT IF HE FELT HE HAD DIED.
SO OBVIOUSLY KIM JONG-UN AN HIS
HANDLERS, THEY DON’T WANT HIM TO
BE SEEN BY THEIR DOMESTIC
AUDIENCE AND ALSO BY AN
INTERNATIONAL AUDIENCE AND THERE
IS A REASON FOR THAT AND IT IS
LIKELY SOMETHING FUNDAMENTALLY
WRONG.
WRONG. I DOUBT THAT HE IS JUST HIDING
FROM THE CORONAVIRUS BECAUSE HE
COULD STILL BE SEEN DOING THAT,
THEY COULD, THEY COULD
MANUFACTURE SOMETHING VERY
POWERFUL IN TERMS OF HIS IMAGE
WHILE HE IS DOING THAT.
SO I THINK IT IS MUCH MORE THAN
THAT, BUT WE’RE LEFT TO
SPECULATION WHEN YOU’RE DEALING
WITH A REGIME LIKE THIS.
MELISSA: YEAH.
MELISSA: YEAH. BUT YOUR SPECULATION IS SO MUCH
MORE EDUCATED THAN THE REST OF