THING, CORRECT? YEAH. GOOD. OKAY. WE’RE ABOUT 50 SECONDS AWAY.
IT IS A FLIGHT OF MIGRANTS THAT
LEFT FROM SAN ANTONIO AND ENDED
UP AT MARTHA’S VINEYARD IN
MASSACHUSETTS PAID FOR.
>> APPARENTLY BY THE STATE OF
FLORIDA. SO WHY SEVIER COUNTY
SHERIFF INVOLVED? WELL, BECAUSE
THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME
DECEPTION INVOLVED. THAT
SHERIFF JAVIER SALAZAR JOINS US
NOW. BEXAR COUNTY SHERIFF, THE
SHERIFF. I APPRECIATE THE TIME.
THERE ARE SOME WHO SAY. WHY ARE
YOU INVESTIGATING THIS? AND I
ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT
THIS IS NOT A
SHERIFF VERSUS DESANTIS SHOWED
OUT.
>> OH, YEAH. THIS IS THE KIND
OF BILLED AS A SHARE VERSUS
GOVERNOR BATTLE ROYALE. AND
IT’S YOU KNOW, THAT’S NOT WHAT
IT DOES. I THINK WE’RE AT A
STRETCH TO SAY WE’RE
INVESTIGATING THE GOVERNOR.
WELL, WE’RE AS RESULT OF THIS
OF THESE FLIGHTS IS WHAT
HAPPENED IN BEXAR COUNTY AND
WAS IT ILLEGAL, YOU KNOW, BY
BOOTS ON THE GROUND HERE.
THAT’S ALL WE’RE LOOKING AT.
>> IS THERE SOMETHING SPECIFIC
WHEN IT COMES TO STATE STATUTE
LAW IN PARTICULAR? BUT YOU ARE
LOOKING AT TO SEE OUR I WAS
THERE A VIOLATION OF X, Y AND
Z. THAT’S ON THE BOOKS IN TEXAS
CHURCH. SURE. WE’RE LOOKING AT
DIFFERENT STATUTES TO DETERMINE
FOR STOP ME TO TALK DIRECTLY
TO THESE VICTIMS. RIGHT NOW.
THE COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN
THROUGH THEIR ATTORNEYS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHAT THE
ATTORNEYS ARE TELLING US.
BUT STILL, WE HAVE TO HEAR
DIRECTLY FROM THE PEOPLE OR
ELSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN’T REALLY
PROCEED BEYOND THAT. SO RIGHT
NOW WE’RE WORKING THROUGH THE
LOGISTICAL TALKING TO THOSE
PEOPLE. THE PROBLEM IS THEY’RE
IN THERE ON THE EAST COAST
RIGHT NOW. AND WE’RE IN TEXAS.
AND SO WE’RE WORKING THROUGH
THE LOGISTICS TO WE DESERVED.
WE IT EXCEPT WRITTEN AFFIDAVIT,
STU, WE PHYSICALLY SEND
SOMEBODY OVER THERE AT THIS
POINT. WE’RE JUST TRYING TO
WORK THROUGH ALL OF THAT TO GET
A MORE COMPLETE PICTURE OF WHAT
ARE THE CLAIMS BEING MADE AND
IS IT ILLEGAL IN THE STATE OF
TEXAS DAILY? BEXAR COUNTY?
>> IN YOUR EXPERIENCE IN YOUR
TALKS WITH SOME OF THESE
VICTIMS OR THROUGH THEIR
ATTORNEYS.
IT WAS DECEPTION INVOLVED IN
YOUR OPINION IN GETTING THESE
MIGRANTS ON THESE FLIGHTS?
>> WELL, THAT’S THE CLAIM.
I THINK. I THINK THAT’S THE
APPS THAT CLAIM IS THAT THERE
WAS DECEPTION INVOLVED. NOW,
WHETHER THAT CROSS THE LINE
OVER INTO OF A LEGAL ONE.
THAT’S WHY WE HAVE
INVESTIGATIONS, RIGHT?
OTHERWISE WE YOU KNOW, WE THINK
THESE THINGS AND MOVE A LOT
QUICKER. BUT, YOU KNOW,
DISTASTEFUL YOU JUST DECEITFUL.
ABSOLUTELY. I THINK I THINK
THERE’S THERE’S SOME INTEGRITY
ISSUES. IF THAT’S THE CASE.
BUT DOES IT CROSS THE LINE OVER
IN CHILE ILLEGAL WEEK? WE’VE
GOT TO TALK TO THESE FOLKS
FIRST TO MAKE THAT
DETERMINATION. THERE’S SO MUCH
OUT THERE, SHERIFF, SOME RUMORS
OUT THERE THAT THAT, YOU KNOW,
THEY WERE PROMISED.
>> X, Y AND Z THEY THOUGHT THEY
WERE GOING TO BOSTON. SOME OF
THEM MAY HAVE THOUGHT THEY WERE
GOING TO
WASHINGTON, D.C..
>> AND A MYSTERY WOMAN NAMED
PERLA. IT IS IT. IS THAT
SOMETHING THAT IS ACTUALLY
>> TRUE? ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A
WOMAN NAMED PERLA? HAVE YOU
FOUND A WOMAN NAMED PERLA?
I MEAN IT. THEY’RE JUST SO MUCH
THAT’S OUT THERE THAT I WANT TO
TRY TO CUT THROUGH THAT AND
SEPARATE THE FACT FROM THE
FICTION.
>> WELL, LOOK, YOU CAN GET
WEEK. WE CAN’T NAME ANY NAMES
IN THIS BECAUSE WHAT DOES THE
FACT IS? WE DON’T KNOW. YOU
KNOW THAT THAT THAT THAT THAT
IT HAS BEEN COMMITTED YET.
SO WE CAN’T NAME ANY SUSPECTS.
WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE TENTATIVELY
IDENTIFIED THAT ARE PERSONS
OF INTEREST. WE’VE GOT SOME
PEOPLE THAT ALL WE HAVE THEM AS
A AND NO NAME. AND SO AT SOME
POINT, WE MAY BE MAKING A
PUBLIC APPEAL FOR THOSE NAMES.
BUT AGAIN, WE NEED TO TALK TO
THESE FOLKS FIRST THINK THAT
HERMAN WAS THERE A TIME EVEN
COMMITTED IN BEXAR COUNTY?
I CAN’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT
WAS DONE IN FLORIDA. I CAN’T DO
ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT WAS DONE IN
NEW ENGLAND. I CAN’T DO
ANYTHING REALLY THAT ON TRANSIT
JUST WAS THERE A CRIME
COMMITTED BY PEOPLE WITH FEET
ON THE GROUND HERE IN BEXAR
COUNTY?
>> YOU KNOW, THE MEDIA ACROSS
THE COUNTRY HAS BEEN TALKING
ABOUT THIS. I MEAN, STEPHEN
COLBERT WAS TALKING ABOUT YOU
LAST BUT TALK ABOUT WHAT THE
RECEPTION OR, YOU KNOW, THE
THE FEEDBACK YOU HAVE BEEN
GETTING YOUR OFFICER EITHER.
YOU PERSONALLY IN RESPONSE TO
ANNOUNCING THIS CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION.
>> AND THEN WE HAVE GOOD MEAN,
YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING FROM, YOU
KNOW, PRAISE TO CONDEMNATION.
YOU BUT WE HAVE WE CAN’T.
>> ALLOW.
>> TOO MUCH OF THE PUBLIC
SENTIMENT, THE NOISE TO TO
AFFECT THE WAY WE DO OUR JOB.
WE GOT A JOB TO DO IF SOMEBODY
COMES TO US WITH A CRIMINAL
ALLEGATION THAT HAPPENED, THAT
THAT WAS ALLEGED TO HAVE
HAPPENED IN OUR COUNTY, WE’VE
GOT INVESTIGATE. EVERY CASE IS
GOING TO MAKE 50% OF THE PEOPLE
REALLY, REALLY HAPPY. AND IT’S
GOING TO REACT THE OTHER 50%.
AND IT NEVER REALLY MATTERS
WHERE WHAT YOU DECIDE OR WHAT
THE OUTCOME IS. SOMEBODY IS
ALWAYS GOING TO BE UNHAPPY WITH
IT IN AND WE JUST HAVE A JOB TO
DO AS FIRST RESPONDERS. THAT’S
WHAT WE DO.
>> HAVE THREATS BEEN MADE
AGAINST YOU AND YOUR DEPUTIES.
>> I MEAN, YES, I DON’T I DON’T
THINK IT’S ANYTHING ACTIONABLE
AND THINGS GOT ME TOO TERRIBLY
WORRIED ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW,
IT’S CONCERNING THAT PEOPLE
FEEL LIKE SOMETHING THAT THEY
SAW ON THE NEWS MAKES THEM WANT
TO.
ANONYMOUSLY A ELECTED OFFICIAL
HALFWAY ACROSS THE COUNTRY
PROBABLY THREATEN ALL KINDS
OF UNSPEAKABLE ACTS. BUT AGAIN,
IF YOU’RE IF YOU’RE THAT AFRAID
OF THREATS, THEN MAYBE YOU
SHOULDN’T BE IN LAW
ENFORCEMENT. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU
YOU SOME OF THEM. YOU’VE GOT A
LAUGH SOME OF THEM. YOU’VE TAKE
A LITTLE MORE SERIOUSLY THAN
OTHERS. BUT, YOU KNOW, LET’S
JUST BE RESPECTFUL OF EACH
OTHER. DID YOU EXPECT THIS KIND
OF ATTENTION?
>> NEW YORK TIMES, WASHINGTON
POST CNN STEPHEN COLBERT IS
MONOLOGUE. I MEAN, DID YOU
EXPECT TO TAKE THIS ON THAT?
YOU’RE GOING TO GET THIS KIND
OF NATIONAL ATTENTION?
>> I MEAN, LOOK, EVERY CASE
THAT WE WORK HAS THE POTENTIAL
TO TO GET TO GARNER MAJOR
TENSION SAY JUST GOT TO MAKE
SURE THAT YOU WORK. IT, YOU
KNOW, WORK IT BY THE NUMBERS
AND NOT GET TOO DISTRACTED BY
ALL THE NOISE. THAT’S WHY IN
THIS CASE YEAR WHERE WE’VE MADE
IT VERY CLEAR WHAT THEIR WHAT
THEIR WHAT MIGHT NOT BE THERE
AND WHAT WE’RE TRYING TO
ACCOMPLISH YOU KNOW. SO SO,
YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WE KNOW THAT
THERE’S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A
LOT OF EYES WATCHING EVERYTHING
THAT WE DO NOW GATHERS, YOU
KNOW, THE POTENTIAL FOR
NATIONAL ATTENTION, LIKE I’VE
TOLD, I CAN TELL ALL OF OUR
CADETS, YOU KNOW, UP POLICE
INCIDENT SUCH AS AN OFFICER
INVOLVED SHOOTING YEARS AGO
WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN MADE THE
NWS EVEN ANYWHERE OUTSIDE OUR
LOCAL CIRCLE. NOW, AN
OFFICER-INVOLVED BECOMES
NATIONAL NEWS IN A MATTER OF
MINUTES SHOW SOCIAL MEDIA.
SO YEAH, WE’RE ABSOLUTELY USED
TO BEING ON THE ROADS MIGHT
STILL NO MATTER WHAT WE DO.
>> HOW ABOUT A TIMELINE ON THIS
INVESTIGATION TO TALK ABOUT
SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WITH
THESE FOLKS NOT BEING HERE IN
BEXAR COUNTY. DO YOU HAVE IN
YOUR MIND SORT OF A ROAD MAP
FOR WHERE THIS IS GOING RIGHT
NOW? I DON’T. I MEAN, LOOK,
WE’VE GOT TO GET THE MOST
EXPEDIENT AND MOST EFFICIENT
WAY TO TALK TO THESE PEOPLE.
LOOK.
>> THE AFFIDAVITS THAT I’VE
SEEN WERE TRANSLATED TO
ENGLISH. I KNOW THAT A LOT OF
THESE PEOPLE DON’T SPEAK
ENGLISH. SO I GOT TO THINK THAT
SOMETHING’S GOT TO BE LOST IN
TRANSLATION. THAT’S WHY I WANT
MY SPANISH SPEAKING.
INVESTIGATORS TALK TO THESE
PEOPLE FIRSTHAND TO JUST SAY
WHAT EXACTLY WHERE YOU LIED
ABOUT. AND AND AT WHAT POINT,
BECAUSE IF THEY TELL ME THEY
WERE LIKE TO. BUT IT HAPPENED
IN FLORIDA. I CAN HELP THEM
WITH THAT AS MUCH AS I’D LOVE
TO IT AS DISTASTEFUL AS I THINK
IT MIGHT BE. I CAN’T HELP THEM
WITH THAT. SO WE HAVE TO REALLY
GET DOWN TO THE TO THE BRASS
TACKS AND FIND OUT WHAT EXACTLY
HAPPENED AND WHERE AND WAS IT A
CRIMINAL OFFENSE? WE’VE GOT
ABOUT 15 SECONDS LEFT. ARE YOU
CONCERNED? BECAUSE THERE’S
ALREADY A LAWSUIT THAT’S BEEN
>> FILED THAT SOME OF THESE
VICTIMS ARE NOT GOING TO TALK
TO YOU BECAUSE OF THAT LAWSUIT.
>> OH, ABSOLUTELY. THAT’S
ALWAYS. THAT’S ALWAYS A
POSSIBILITY. BUT WE JUST GOT TO
TAKE THE FACTS THAT ARE
PRESENTED TO US. IF SOMEBODY
SAYS I WAS WRONG, BUT I DO WANT
TO TALK TO ABOUT IT THAT WE CAN
HELP THEM AT THAT POINT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT’S JUST THE
WAY IT IS.
>> SHERIFF JAVIER SALAZAR,