LET'S GET ON WITH THIS.
I'M KENNEDY.
THERE IS NO DOUBT WE NEED TO
TAKE EVERY NORTH KOREAN OVERTURE
WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.
JOHN BOLTON IS BACK.
THERE IS OBVIOUSLY A METHOD TO
IT.
CRITICISM WHEN HE WAS BELITTLING
KIM JONG-UN ON TWITTER.
WAS THERE A STRATEGY BEHIND IT
AND IS IT WORKING?
>> CLEARLY TO THE EXCELLENT IS
ANY POSSIBILITY OF A DIPLOMATIC
SOLUTION WITH NORTH KOREA, IT
INCREASES IN DIRECT PROPORTION
TO THE CREDIBILITY OF THE
MILITARY THREAT.
LET'S BE CLEAR.
THE EVIDENT THEY ARE MAKING IF
IT IS ONE TO GET TO THE
NEGOTIATING TABLE HAS A
DIFFERENT OBJECTIVE THAN THE
DIPLOMATIC EFFORT THAT THREE
PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS HAVE
OUT.
OUR EVIDENT IS TO -- HAS SOUGHT.
OUR EFFORT IS TO GET THEM TO
GIVE UP THEIR WEAPONS AND THEIR
EFFORT TO IS TO CROSS FINISH
LINE AND HIT TARGETS IN THE
UNITED STATES.
KENNEDY: YOU DON'T BELIEVE THEM
WHEN THEY I WE ARE WILLING TO
TALK ABOUT DENUCLEARIZING NORTH
KOREA.
IS SOUTH KOREA BEING NAIVE WHEN
THEY SAY THEY BELIEVE NORTH
KOREA WILL BAN ITS NUCLEAR
PROGRAM.
>> HERE IS AN ALL-PURPOSE
INSULT.
HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE CLEAR
*IAN REGIME IS LYING.
ANSWER, WHEN THEIR LIPS ARE
MOVING.
KENNEDY: YOU ARE RIGHT.
SO MANY TIMES AS YOU SAID
THROUGH VARIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS
AND MULTI PARTY TALKS WITH
PROMISES OF LIFTING SANCTIONS
AND GIVING NORTH KOREA HEAVY OIL
AND FOOD AID.
THEY PROMISED TO BE ON THEIR
BEST BEHAVIOR AND QUICKLY
ABANDONED THOSE PROMISES.
>> SOUTH KOREA PAID FOR THE COST
OF THE NORTH KOREA PARTICIPATING
IN OLYMPICS.
THAT'S ANOTHER SUBSIDY.
YOU CAN BET THAT THE ATHLETES
AND THOSE CHEERLEADERS DIDN'T
GET THE BENEFITS OF THOSE
PAYMENT.
THEY WENT TO THE NORTH KOREAN
TREASURY AT THE SAME TIME THE
U.N. INSPECTORS ARE REPORTING
THEY ARE SELLING SIR WHY
ELEMENTS FOR THE MANUFACTURING
OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS.
THAT'S THE FUTURE RIGHT NOW.
ONCE NORTH KOREA CROSSES THAT
LINE THE NUCLEAR WALMART IN
PYONGYANG WILL OPEN.
KENNEDY: WHAT DO YOU SEE AS
SUCCESS?
>> IT COULD BE THE FALL OF THE
KIM JONG-UN REGIME.
THE REUNIFICATION OF KOREA UNDER
EFFECTIVELY SOUTH KOREAN RULE.
BOTH SIDES OF THE 38th
PARALLEL WANT A REUNITED KOREA.
BUT IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE
WHOSE SYSTEM PREVAILS.
THERE IS NO ONE IN SOUTH KOREA I
KNOW OF WHO WANTS TO LIVE UNDER
KIM JONG-UN'S SYSTEM.
>> IT BEATS LEG IN A PRISON
CAMP.
KENNEDY: IT'S REMARKABLE.
THIS A NEW SET OF SANCTIONS
IMPOSED ON NORTH KOREA FOR THE
DEATH MUCH KIM JONG-UN'S HALF
BROTHER.
THAT WAS FOR USING VX GAS.
HOW MUCH OF THAT GAS DO YOU
THINK THEY HAVE?
>> I THINK THEY HAVE LARGE
QUANTITIES OF IT.
WE BELIEVE THEY HAVE HAD A
CHEMICAL WEAPON'S PROGRAM FOR
MANY YEARS AND THEY DECIDED TO
GET AN UPGRADE WHICH THEY ARE
CLOSE TO ACCOMPLISHING.
KENNEDY: HOW DOES THIS END?
>> I THINK WE ARE COMING TO A
VERY BAD CONCLUSION WHERE THERE
ARE TWO EXTRAORDINARILY UNHAPPY
CHOICES.
NOT THAT IT'S PRESIDENT TRUMP'S
FAULT.
HE INHERITED 25 YEARS OF
FAILURE.
THE TWO CHOICES BOTH BAD, YOU
ACCEPT NORTH KOREA OR USE
MILITARY FORCE TO MAKE SURE THEY
NEVER GET NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
KENNEDY: A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK
IT'S A FOOL'S EARNED GIVEN
IT'S A FOOL'S --RNED GIVEN
IT'S A FOOL'S -- EED GIVEN
IT'S A FOOL'S -- ERR GIVEN
IT'S A FOOL'S -- ERRANIVEN
IT'S A FOOL'S -- ERRAND,EN
IT'S A FOOL'S -- ERRAND, GIVEN
THEIR PAST FAILURE.
KENNEDY: WHAT WOULD HAVE
HAPPENED IF HILLARY CLINTON HAD
WON.
>> THEY WOULD HAVE NUCLEAR
WEAPONS.
MANY ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE
POLITICAL SPECTRUM SAY ITS
UNACCEPTABLE FOR IRAN OR NORTH
KOREA TO GET NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
THEY DON'T MEAN WHAT THEY SAY.
TO ME THE WORD UNACCEPTABLE
MEANS WE'LL NOT ACCEPT IT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT JOHN KERRY OR
BARACK OBAMA OR HILLARY CLINTON
MEANT.
KENNEDY: DO PEOPLE ON THAT SIDE
BELIEVE SANCTIONS WILL AT SOME
POINT WORK?
>> ONLY IF THEY ARE DELUSIONAL.
SUSAN RICE, YOU HAVE GOT TO GIVE
HER CREDIT FOR BEING CANDID.
SHE ACKNOWLEDGES 25 YEARS OF
DIPLOMACY AND SANCTIONS HAVE