>> Shannon: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WELL, TONIGHT THE FBI BEING
PRAISED ACROSS THE BOARD FOR
QUICK ACTION IN THIS CASE.
WHILE DWL IS A DIVIDE ABOUT
WHETHER POLITICAL RHETORIC
SPARKED IT.
FORM E ASSISTANT DIRECTOR TO THE
FBI, FORMER DIRECTOR OF THE
NYPD, AND HOST OF "THE FIVE."
RON, I'LL START WITH YOU, THE
SPEED AT WHICH THIS WAS DONE,
INTERESTING THAT A MAN WHO HAS
REPRESENTED THE SUSPECT, WE
DON'T KNOW IF HE IS IN THIS
CASE, FORMERLY, SAID WHEN I WOKE
UP THIS MORNING, HE SAID THERE'S
100 OF YOUR CLIENTS AND HE'S ONE
16900 AND ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE IS
GOING GET ARRESTED FOR THIS I
PROBABLY WOULD PICK OUT MANY,
MANY MORE BEFORE I WOULD PICK
HIM OUT.
LISTEN, THIS IS A GUY WITH A
LONG LEGAL RECORD IN THE PAST.
BUT APPARENTLY SOME PEOPLE
THOUGHT HE WAS FINE.
>> HE HAD A LONG RECORD,
APPEARED TO BE IN SOME WAYS
HIDING IN PLANL SIGHT.
YOU SAW THE PICTURES OF HIS VAN,
WHO HE HAD TARGETED, WHO HE
CONSIDERED IN THE SWAMP ON HIS
VAN, YOU KNOW, HE'S A GUY
JUMPING UP NOW AND SAYING LOOK
AT ME, CONSIDER ME.
A LOT OF THAT IS FIRST AMENDMENT
PROTECTED SPEECH.
HE HAS R RIGHT TO PARADE UP AND
DOWN THE STREETS AND HAVE THOSE
VIEWS AND POST THEM UP ON HIS
VAN AS LONG AS HE'S NOT BREAKING
THE LAW.
>> Shannon: HE HAD A PRIOR ISSUE
WITH THE BOMB THREAT, WHICH I
BELIEVE IS ONE OF THE CASES
WHERE HE PLEAD GUILTY.
THERE WERE THOSE WHO NEW OF HIS
ANGER AND TEMPER -- KNEW OF HIS
ANGER AND TEMPER.
HARRY HIPMAN, A LEFT LEANING
ATTORNEY WE HAVE ON QUITE A BIT,
HE TWEETED THIS OUT, HE SAID THE
RAGE, THE IRRELEVANT
RATIONALITY, THE DEMONIZATION OF
DEMOCRATS, HE IS NO BACK
CO-ABERRATION, HE IS THE FACE OF
TRUMP.
>> THERE ARE OVER 60 MILLION
PEOPLE VOTED FOR TRUMP, THIS IS
ONE GUY THAT IS DISTURBED,
CRIMINAL, BUT FAR FROM A MASTER
MIND.
I THINK THE CALLS FROM THE LEFT
ARE UNSERIOUS, BECAUSE OF THE
RECORD THAT THEY HAVE, WHERE
THEY DIDN'T CALL FOR SIMILAR
CIVILITY WHEN WE HAD INCIDENTS
THAT WERE WORSE IN TERMS OF
CASUALTIES, STEVE SCALISE THE
PRESIDENT HAS MENTIONED.
YOU CAN'T CALL FOR A CEASE-FIRE
WHILE YOU'RE STILL FIRING WHICH
IS WHAT DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN
DOING ALL WEEK.
AND IF PRESIDENT TRUMP WERE TO
HEED THESE CALLS, I WANT TO KNOW
IF THEY WOULD STOP CALLING THEM
A TRAITOR, SEXIST, A RACIST,
CRAZY, I THINK WE KNOW THE
ANSWERS TO THAT.
WHY WOULD HE?
HE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH, THIS
HE BEARS NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR
THIS WHATSOEVER.
>> Shannon: AND HE MADE A NUMBER
OF STATEMENTS THAT THIS IS
DESPICABLE, REPREHENSIBLE, WE
HAVE TO BRING THE TEMPERATURE
DOWN.
BUT AS FAR AS POLITICAL BLAME
ISSUE, BEN SHAPIRO TWEETS
REMEMBER THAT TIME EVERYBODY
CORRECTLY AVOIDED BLAMING BERNIE
SANDERS FOR ONE OF HIS
SUPPORTERS SHOOTING UP A BUNCH
OF CONGRESS PEOPLE, THAT'S NOT
GOING TO HAPPEN TODAY WITH CRAZY
BOMBER GUY.
JUAN?
>> I FIND THIS SO MUCH
RHETORICAL JUJITSU ON THE PART
OF TRUMP SUPPORTERS.
?
YOU LOOK AT BERNIE SANDERS,
BERNIE SANDERS WAS NOT MAKING
INSINLDRY REMARKS ABOUT DONALD
TRUMP AND HIS OPPONENTS.
THERE'S A CLEAR RECORD, IT'S NOT
ARGUABLE, GO A TRUMP RALLY, WE
HEARD FROM SENATOR FEINSTEIN
ABOUT THE "LOCK HER UP," ALSO
SECOND AMENDMENT PEOPLE, PEOPLE
TAKE CARE OF HILLARY.
OBAMA WAS TAPPING ME, WIRE
TAPPING ME, HE'S A LIAR.
ALL OF THESE THINGS.
AND AT SOME POINT, THAT'S
ACTUALLY WHAT THE REPORTERS,
ENEMY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE,
YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY DEMOCRATS
WOULD SAY, HEY, THIS IS
DIFFERENT THAN BERNIE SANDERS.
BERNIE SANDERS, YOU COULD SAY
HE'S A SOCIAL INTEREST, YOU CAN
SAY HE WANTS SINGLE PAYER
MEDICARE.
>> Shannon: BUT LIKE HIM, THE
PRESIDENT HASN'T SAID GO OUT AND
KILL PEOPLE OR TERRORIZE PEOPLE.
>> NO, DON'T MISUNDERSTAND ME,
I'M NOT DRAWING A DIRECT
CORRELATION, I DIDN'T SAY
PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS DIRECTLY
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACTIONS OF
MR. SAYOC.
BUT I THINK THAT THE ATMOSPHERE
IS HIGHLY CHARGED.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DEBATE
THAT WE ARE A POLARIZED COUNTRY.
>> Shannon: AND THERE'S PLENTY
OF HEAT ON BOTH SIDES, KICK 'EM
WHEN THEY'RE DOWN, APPROACH THEM
WHERE THEY ARE, MAKE THEM MISS
RANL, THAT CONVERSATION OIGS THE
LEFT SIDE.
>> THERE'S ALSO A POLITICAL
CULTURE ON THE LEFT RIGHT NOW
THAT, HAS FOR MONTHS, EMBRACED
MOB TACTICS IN PUBLIC, TRIES TO
PARS WHETHER MOB IS A TERM YOU
CAN USE FOR A MASS OF PEOPLE MEN
EASING PEOPLE IN RESTAURANTS,
THEY LOST THAT DEBATE.
BUT THIS ISN'T JUST SOMETHING A
FEW PEOPLE HAVE DONE.
WE'RE SEEING CROWDS OF
INDIVIDUALS ACTING OUT IN A WAY
THAT IS FULL OF RAGE, THAT IS
FRIGHTENING, MEANT TO INTIMIDATE
AND SEEING MULTI-MILLIONAIRE
ANCHORS AT DIFFERENT NETWORKS
SAYING THAT BEHAVIOR IS OKAY.
THAT'S A DIFFERENT UNIVERSE FROM
ONE OBVIOUSLY CRAZY INDIVIDUAL
LIVING IN A VAN COVERED WITH THE
COMMENT SECTION OF SOME WEBSITE
THAT HE PULLED TOGETHER.
AND DECIDING TO TAKE THESE
INCREDIBLY VILE ACTIONS.
EVERYONE AGREEING WHAT HE SID
WAS DISGUSTING -- DID WAS
DISGUSTING.
THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE, THE LEFT
THINKS THIS INTIMIDATION IS
WARRANTED, THEY THINK TRUMP IS
DESTROYING THE COUNTRY,
UNDERMINING OUR INSTITUTIONS.
THAT IS THE HISTORIC COMING FROM
THE TOP OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
>> Shannon: LET ME BRING IN RON,
I WANT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT
PERSPECTIVE.
WHEN YOU HAVE SO MUCH HEAT ON
BOTH SIDES, WE'VE SEEN THE
GROUPS THAT GET TOGETHER AND
THEY'RE VERY MUCH DIAMETRICALLY
OPPOSED TO EACH OTHER, IN
PORTLAND, SOME WHERE ELSE.
THERE HAS BEEN PLENTY OF THAT.
HOW DOES LAW ENFORCEMENT KEEP A
HANDLE ON THAT AND ALLOW THE
PEOPLE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION,
IT'S HARD TO COME.
FROM THE FBI PERSPECTIVE, WE HAD
OUR GUIDELINES.
THERE'S A THIRD RAIL AROUND THE
FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTED
ACTIVITY.
YOU HAVE TO BE VERY, VERY
CAUTIOUS.
AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU AREN'T
JUST LOOKING FOR HATEFUL SPEECH,
UGLY RHETORIC, YOU LOOK FOR
ACTIONS THAT THERE'S ACTIVITY
THAT MOVES TOWARD DPE CUTING A
THREAT, PLOTTING A CRIME,
CONSPIREING WITH OTHER PEOPLE TO
AFFECT A CRIME.
IT CAN BE A VERY FINE LINE
BETWEEN HOLLERING AT SOMEBODY
AND AGREEING WITH SOMEBODY TO
HOLLER LOULDER AND TO DO UGLY
THINGS AND THEN TO CROSS THAT
LINE INTO A CRIME.
THAT CAN HAPPEN IN THE BLINK OF
AN EYE.
SO THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT JOB
FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.
YOU SEE FOR FBI AND LAW
ENFORCEMENT ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
I AGREE, BUT I THINK WITH
EVERYONE, DWL'S UGLY RHETORIC ON
ALL SIDES.
I THINK THERE'S TREMENDOUS
HYPOCRISY AND UP TO LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO PUT IT OFF TO THE
SIDE AND FOCUS ON THE DASING AT
HAND.
>> Shannon: AND THEY'VE DONE
EXCELLENT WORK, WE GIVE THEM NOD
AND THANK THEM FOR HOW THEY GOT