NOW TO THE STATE OF POLITICS
IN 2020 MOST AMERICANS
HISTORICALLY HAVE POSSESSED AN
INHERENT TRUST IN THE OFFICE
OF THE PRESIDENT IT FOR THE
LAST 4 YEARS FALL. SO IT’S IN
CONSPIRACY THEORIES HAVE OFTEN
DEFINED THE PRESIDENCY. DONALD
TRUMP, NBC NEWS DOT COM
POLITICAL REPORTER JANE TIMM
JOINS US NOW TO BREAKDOWN
BREAK OUT THE STAND OUT ISSUES
FROM OUR HER TIRELESS
REPORTING. IN FACT, CHECKING
OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS OF THE
TRUMP PRESIDENCY. IT’S KEPT ME
BUSY. JANE, GOOD MORNING. SO
LET’S START WITH THE
PRESIDENT’S RESPONSE TO THE
CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC IN MARCH.
HE TOLD AMERICANS TO STAY CALM
AND THAT COVID-19 WILL, QUOTE,
GO AWAY. SO WHAT HAVE BEEN THE
IMPACTS OF SOME OF HIS MORE
HANDS OFF CLAIMS AROUND THE
VIRUS.
>> YOU KNOW, THE PRESIDENT’S
RESPONSE REALLY POLARIZE WHAT
IS A VERY A POLITICAL VIRUS.
YOU KNOW, HITS BOTH PARTIES
EQUALLY, BUT EVERYTHING FROM
THINGS LIKE WHETHER YOU WEAR A
MASK USED TO WEAR ONE IN
PUBLIC FOR WEEKS. MOCKED JOE
BIDEN FOR DOING HE SORT OF
QUESTION THE EFFICACY OF MASKS
DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE KNOW
MASKS REALLY DO YOU SEE HIM ON
CAMERA AFTER HE WAS INFECTED
WITH THE VIRUS PULLING DOWN
THAT MASK AS HE ENTERS WHITE
HOUSE AND YOU DON’T EVEN
REMODELING AND THINGS YOU
DON’T WANT SOMEONE IN A
POSITION OF LEADERSHIP TEAM ON
LEE THINGS THAT BUT MAKE IT
HARDER AND SCIENTISTS SAY, YOU
KNOW, DON’T SHOW YOU WHAT YOU
NEED TO BE DOING THE ALSO
STEAMS WHEN UNPROVEN
TREATMENTS HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE
AN ANTI-MALARIAL DRUG REALLY
USED TO TREAT LUPUS AND
UNDRAMATIC DISEASES. HE TALKS
SO MUCH ABOUT THE DRUG AND
GUIDED DOCTOR TO PUT HIM ON
IT. HE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS
WITH THEM THAT WHITE HOUSE
DOCTORS THAT. AND THERE REALLY
WASN’T PROVEN AND INTO THIS
WITH A REAL TREATMENT THAT
WOULD WORK AND IT CREATED A
RUN ON THE DRUG THAT MADE IT
HARD FOR PEOPLE WHO REALLY
DOES SAVE THEIR LIVES. THIS
PATIENTS TO GET THAT MEDICINES
SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, HE CREATED
ACTUALLY 2 AMERICAS, ONE THAT
REALLY FELT THIS VIRUS WAS
DEADLY SERIOUS AND ONE THAT
CAN, YOU KNOW, IT’S THAT BIG A
DEAL TO JUST LIKE THE GLUE.
THAT WAS THE REALLY BIG ONE TO
ME THE IDEA THAT IT WAS JUST
LIKE THE VIRUS IS 10 TIMES
DEADLIER THAN THE FLU.
ACCORDING TO DOCTOR FAUCI. AND
IT’S NO JOKE.
>> JAY, LET’S TALK ABOUT THE
ELECTION IN A TWEET JUST DAYS
AGO, PRESIDENT TRUMP SUGGESTED
THAT VOTER FRAUD IS A FACT,
THOUGH. THERE HAS BEEN NO
EVIDENCE OF WIDESPREAD VOTER
FRAUD IN THE 2020 ELECTION.
WHAT HAVE BEEN THE RESULT OF
HIS AMPLIFIED FALSE CLAIMS
AROUND ELECTION FRAUD.
>> YOU KNOW, I THINK IT REALLY
AND PROVIDE AMERICANS TO GET
OUT AND THEIR ELECTIONS IS
FROM 2016, YOU KNOW, REALLY
SAW IT. THE PEOPLE AND THEIR
ELECTION SYSTEM BECAUSE WE SAW
OR IN GOVERNMENT TRYING TO
INTERFERE REALLY PUSH A YOU
KNOW, PUSH TOWARDS DIVISIONS
ONLINE. BUT WHAT’S REALLY
IMPORTANT IS THAT WATER FROM
WE’VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS
SINCE THE 90’S, LIKE ON THE
SHOW EVERY WEEK TALKING ABOUT
HOW THERE ISN’T VOTER PRIDE.
BUT I THINK WITH THIS REALLY,
REALLY BIG PUSH. SHE DID RIGHT
AFTER THE ELECTION STARTING AT
2 IN THE MORNING ON ELECTION
NIGHT SAYING ACTUALLY WAS
STOLEN FROM HIM AND HE WON
WITHOUT THE OF OR WE HAVE TO
GET LEGAL VOTE. HE SAID THE
VOTER WAS IMPORTANT THAT
YOU’RE GOING TO SEE
LEGISLATORS TAKE THIS AND
GOING LEGISLATE TO TRY AND
STOP THE FRAUD THAT TRUMP HAD
BEEN. BUT WITH. THERE IS NO
PROOF THAT TRUMP VOTER FRAUD,
TRUMP, THAT HAPPENS AND WE DO
KNOW THAT VOTER RESTRICTION
THINGS THAT MAKE IT HARDER TO
VOTE DISPROPORTIONATELY MAKE
IT HARDER FOR STUDENTS IN
VOTERS OF COLOR TO VOTE WHICH
REALLY GOING TO CHANGE WHO HAS
ACCESS TO THE BALLOT BOX WITH
E.
>> JAY. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS
REPEATEDLY CALLED RUSSIA’S
INTERFERENCE IN THE 2016
ELECTION. A HOAX DESPITE CLEAR
EVIDENCE OF THE RUSSIAN
GOVERNMENT’S EFFORTS TO
INFLUENCE THE OUTCOME OF THE
ELECTION. SO WHAT HAVE BEEN
SOME OF THE PRESIDENT’S CLAIMS
AROUND THIS TOPIC AND THE
FALLOUT FROM SOME OF THOSE
FALL. SO IT’S.
>> YOU KNOW, THIS WE’RE JUST
TALKING ABOUT THIS. THIS IS
SORT OF THE IDEA THAT TURNED
WHAT WAS AN ATTACK ON AMERICAN
DEMOCRACY BY A FOREIGN
GOVERNMENT AND TURNED IT INTO
A POLITICAL THAT YOU KNOW WAS
A WHICH I DON’T THINK WE’LL
EVER GET THAT FREEZE WITHOUT
THINKING ABOUT RUSSIA AND
PRESIDENT TRUMP EVER AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, ALSO BENCH HE GOT
IMPEACHED BY THIS CLAIM
BECAUSE HE TURNED IT ON AND
THAT MAY BE UKRAINE. HAD
HACKED THE U.S. ELECTION FRAME
DIRECTION. YOU KNOW SOMETHING
THAT ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE
FROM. THAT’S ACTUALLY A CLAIM
THAT TRUMP’S OWN RUSSIA EXPERT
SAYS RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE WAS
PUSHING. SO KEEP YOUR EYES TO
ATTACK ON AMERICA AND OR HAS
IT ACTUALLY MADE ABOUT HIM. I
THINK INSTEAD OF MAKING IT
POSSIBLE THE U.S. AND FOR
AMERICANS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
HAD HAPPENED. HE TURNED INTO
SORT OF KIND OF THING YOU SEE
SPOT ABOUT ON CABLE NEWS AND
IT MADE IT HARDER. I THINK FOR
AMERICANS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
WAS HAPPENING AND THAT WHAT
THEY SEE ONLINE DUE TO THE
POLARIZED ADDITION TO I MIGHT
NOT BE EXACTLY WHAT YOU THINK.
AND WHEN RUSSIA TRIED AGAIN TO
MEDDLE IN THIS CURRENT
ELECTION. THERE WAS, YOU KNOW,
IT WASN’T AS BIG A STORY THAT
WOULD HAVE BEEN IF AMERICANS
WERE REALLY KEY IN ON THIS
STORY BECAUSE THEY KNEW WHAT
HAD HAPPENED AND THEY FULLY
UNDERSTOOD THE SCOPE AND THAT
THE OUTCOME AND THEY DIDN’T
BELIEVE BY BASED ON WHICH
PARTY THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY
WE’VE SEEN HAPPEN WITH
PRESIDENT TRUMP WHICH PARTY
YOU ARE REALLY PREDICT
SWITCHBACKS. YOU BELIEVE IN
BECAUSE PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS A
VERY, VERY DIFFERENT SET OF
FACTS THEN BEEN HURT.
>> SO JANE, IN THE END, WHAT
DOES ALL THIS MEAN FOR THE
PRESIDENT’S LEGACY. DO YOU
THINK.
>> YOU KNOW, I THINK IT
DEPENDS ON WHICH PARTY YOU’RE
AND I THINK HE HAS A LEGACY
WITH REPUBLICANS BASED ON WHAT
MAY BE HOW HE SEES HIMSELF AND
HOW HE PUSHED HIMSELF. AND I
SHOULD SAY REPUBLICANS BELIEVE
HIS SUPPORTERS, HIS CORE BASE
THAT YOU GET UP 40% THAT WE
TALK ABOUT WHOLE LOT REALLY?
DID UNWAVERINGLY SUPPORT HAS
BEEN THROUGH THIS BUT YOU ALSO
HAVE A LEGACY OF PEOPLE WHO
THEY YOU KNOW, HE TOLD A LOT
OF FALSEHOODS DURING HIS TIME.
WHAT’S REALLY INTERESTING IS
THAT I THINK THAT MOST MOST
INFLUENTIAL HERE IS THE SEC TO
HAVE ON THE INSTITUTION OF THE
PRESIDENCY. YOU KNOW, I
MENTION STORY AND MICHAEL
BESCHLOSS TOLD ME THAT SHE IS
REALLY IMPRESSIVE MIDAMERICAN
STILL HAVE FAITH IN THEIR
PRESIDENT AND THAT AMERICAN
STILL TRUST. WHEN YOU SAY FROM
THING. THIS IS HOW PRESIDENTS
HAVE GOTTEN AMERICANS TO GO TO
WAR IN THE PAST WHEN YOU
REMOVE THAT THAT TRUST AND YOU
HAVE, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN PEOPLE
IN THE PARTIES BELIEVE IN
DIFFERENT THINGS. YOU DON’T
HAVE THAT 8. IT’S GOING MAKE
IT HARDER FOR FUTURE
PRESIDENTS TO LEAD TIME WILL
TELL HOW INFLUENTIAL AND HOW
MUCH WEAKER THAT FAITH IS, BUT
IT’S DEFINITELY WEAKER.
>> ALL RIGHT, JANE, THANK YOU
SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR TIRELESS REPORTING THIS YEAR AND HAPPY
REPORTING THIS YEAR AND HAPPY
NEW YEAR TO YOU. THANKS, JOE.