STEVE: WELCOME BACK.
A FOX NEWS ALERT, A CURFEW IN
MINNESOTA HAS ENDED THIS MORNING
AT SIX A.M. AFTER A NIGHT ROCKED
BY VIOLENT PROTESTS FOLLOWING A
POLICE-INVOLVED SHOOTING.
AINSLEY: FORMER NYPD OFFICER AND
FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR DAN BONGINO
IS HERE TO REACT TO IT.
HEY, DAN.
WHAT’S YOUR REACTION?
>> HOW ARE YOU?
GOOD MORNING.
AINSLEY: DOING WELL, THANK YOU.
>> YEAH.
LISTEN, AINSLEY, WE HAVE A
PROCESS, RIGHT?
THIS IS WHAT SEPARATES US FROM
THIRD WORLD REPUBLICS.
IT’S BEEN SAID OFTEN THAT
CIVILIZATIONS HAVE BEEN CRUSHED
ON A VOLCANO, RIGHT?
WHICH IS TRUE.
LOOK THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF
HUMAN HISTORY.
WHAT’S THAT THIN CRUST COMPRISED
OF?
BASICALLY, OUR POLICE OFFICERS
THAT KEEP LAW AND ORDER AND THAT
WE ALL AGREE TO LIVE BY A SERIES
OF RULES.
NOW, SOMETIMES, UNFORTUNATELY,
YOU SUPPORT INCIDENTS BY POLICE
AGAINST CIVILIANS BREAK BAD.
YOU KNOW, I WAS A POLICE
OFFICER.
THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY ARE
GOOD, KIND, DECENT PEOPLE THERE
TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
UNFORTUNATELY, THERE ARE A FEW
BAD ONES IN THERE, SPRINKLED IN
THE BUNCH THAT CAN DO A LOT OF
DAMAGE.
BUT, AINSLEY, WE HAVE A PROCESS
TO WEED THEM OUT.
THERE ARE CIVILIAN COMPLAINT
REVIEW BOARDS, THERE’S INTERNAL
AFFAIRS, THERE’S THE LEGAL
SYSTEM.
IF YOU HAPPEN TO COMMIT A CRIME
AS A POLICE OFFICER, YOU’RE NOT
IMMUNE FROM THAT.
WHY WE’RE IGNORING THIS
PROCESS -- NOT WE, BUT PEOPLE
INVOLVED IN THIS UNREST AND JUST
THROWING IT OUT.
I MEAN, THIS IS -- YOU WANT
CHAOS AND ANARCHY AND YOU HAVE
NO REGARD WHATSOEVER FOR WHAT
THAT FLAG STANDS FOR, THEN THIS
IS THE WAY TO DO IT, BY JUMPING
TO A CONCLUSION BEFORE WE HAVE
ANY OF THE FACTS.
BRIAN: SO THIS GUY DID NOT PULL
OVER, HE WAS ON THE PHONE WITH
HIS MOM, HE ENDS UP DEAD.
WE DON’T KNOW THE INS AND OUTS
OF IT, BUT PROTESTS AT NIGHT
MAKE EVERYONE WHO’S WEARING THE
UNIFORM EVEN MORE NERVOUS TO DO
IT OR RELUCTANT TO PUT PIT ON
AGAIN. -- PUT IT ON AGAIN.
AND THERE ARE BODY CAMS ON THIS.
WE’RE GOING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM
OF THIS.
>> YEAH, EXACTLY.
THAT’S MY POINT.
I CAN’T GET IN THE HEAD OF
PEOPLE WHO DO THIS TYPE OF
THING.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA RIGHT NOW WHAT
HAPPENED.
YOU HAVE A GENERAL TEMPLATE OF
SOMETHING THAT WENT DOWN.
LISTEN, I DON’T KNOW -- NO ONE
SHOULD GET SHOT, BUT
UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE USE OF
FORCE INCIDENTS BY POLICE WHEN
PEOPLE ENGAGE IN BEHAVIOR THAT
HAS TO BE STOPPED.
YOU PULL A GUN ON A POLICE
OFFICER, YOU CAN’T JUST LET THEM
SHOOT THE POLICE OFFICER.
CAN WE GET THE FACTS FIRST
BEFORE WE START LOOTING?
BY THE WAY, LOOTING AND
DESTROYING PEOPLE’S BUSINESSES,
CAN YOU PLACE -- PLEASE EXPLAIN
TO ME WHAT THAT HAS TO DO WITH
JUSTICE IN HOW A THIRD PARTY WHO
HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING
WHO IS JUST RUNNING A BUSINESS
TO GET BY, WHAT THE HELL DO THEY
HAVE TO DO THE WITH ANYTHING?
HOW DOES STEALING FROM THEM, HOW
DOES THAT HELP ANYTHING?
HOW DOES THAT GET TO THE BOTTOM
OF JUSTICE?
IF THE POLICE OFFICER WAS IN THE
RIGHT, WE’LL FIND OUT.
IF THEY WEREN’T, THEY’LL BE
SUBJECTED TO THE SAME PROCESS
WE’VE HAD THE WHOLE TIME.
CAN EVERYBODY CALM DOWN AND
TAKE, LET’S GET, YOU KNOW, LET’S
GET OUR ARMS AROUND THE FACTS
BEFORE WE START STEALING
PEOPLE’S STUFF FROM A STORE IN
THE NAME OF SO-CALLED, YOU KNOW,
AIR QUOTES, JUSTICE.
THAT’S NOT JUSTICE, THAT’S
CHAOS.
STEVE: HERE NOW A CASE THAT WE
ABSOLUTELY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
IN ’81 A GUY KILLS A COP.
AND THE COP’S NAME IS ROBERT
WALSH.
THE GUY WHO KILLED HIM A GUY
NAMED RICHARD RIVERA WHO WOUND
UP GOING TO PRISON.
BUT NOW GOVERNOR CUOMO, IN THE
WAKE OF GEORGE FLOYD, SAID WE
NEED TO HAVE A COMMISSION TO
STUDY POLICE REFORM, AND SO THEY
HAVE APPOINTED THIS GUY, THE COP
KILLER, TO THE COMMISSION.
THE FAMILY OF ROBERT WALSH SAID
TO THE NEW YORK POST THIS: OUR
FAMILY IS COMPLETELY OUTRAGED
AND HEAEART BROKEN THAT OUR
FATHER’S KILLER HAS NOT ONLY
BEEN RELEASED, BUT WAS SELECTED
TO BE A PART OF THE ITHACA AND
THOMPKINS COUNTY POLICE REFORM
MAN.
HIS APPOINTMENT TO THIS PANEL
WAS ABSOLUTELY DISRESPECTFUL TO
OUR FATHER’S LEGACY AND
REPRESENTS ANOTHER PAINFUL
TRAGEDY FOR OUR FAMILY.
MR. BONGINO?
>> LISTEN, STEVE, YOU KNOW, I’M
A PROUD BELIEVER IN JESUS
CHRIST, I AM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW
IT’S NOT A RELIGIOUS SHOW.
REDEMPTION, HE FORGAVE THE MAN
ON THE CROSS NEXT TO HIM.
I’LL SEE YOU IN HEAVEN, HE SAID.
BUT REDEMPTION, THAT’S YOUR
ISSUE WITH THE LORD.
THE FACT THAT YOU PUT THIS GUY
ON A PANEL, A PANEL, I MEAN,
WITH THIS -- THEY LOST THEIR
FAMILY MEMBER.
THEY ARE NEVER GOING TO SEE THIS
PERSON AGAIN.
AND YOU PUT THE CONVICTED PERSON
ON A REFORM PANEL?
I MEAN, LISTEN, FOLKS, COME ON.
THERE’S REDEMPTION AND THEN
THERE’S STUPIDITY.
I MEAN, THIS IS A SLAP IN THE --
IF YOU WERE LOOKING TO JUST WITH
STICK IT TO THESE PEOPLE, THIS
IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WOULD DO.
AGAIN, IF HE WANTS FORGIVENESS,
LET HIM PRAY ON IT.
I’M SURE JESUS WILL BE THERE FOR
YOU ONE DAY.
BUT YOU DON’T PUT HIM ON A
POLICE PANEL WITH THE FAMILY.
THEY WILL NEVER, EVER SEE THEIR
FAMILY MEMBER EVER AGAIN, AND
THOUSAND YOU STICK IT TO -- THIS
IS A HOT POKER IN THE EYE IF
I’VE EVER SEEN ONE.
HONESTLY, I THOUGHT IT WAS A BAD
JOKE.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT’S NOT.
BRIAN: DAN BONGINO, THANKS SO
MUCH.
I THINK ITHACA ALSO VOTED TO
DEFUND THE POLICE, SO WE KNOW