Alright, we are halfway through the season
and here are the current odds
for MVP, it had been Josh hollan
wire to wire. Well, we're halfway through the wire and
now Mahomes is taken over.
I think the Josh Allen injury and the loss on Sunday? I'm
sure had something down with that. We don't know whether or
not, Alan's a good miss. Any time we saw Patrick, my home's
play great in prime time, on Sunday night,
but look at jail and hurts at second there.
Chris. Yeah, surprising well but not their undefeated,
I know. Exactly, right. I think that's that's, you know, Mike,
you nobody clarifies that better than you do. The
quarterback of the team that could be the one seed or maybe
the really good to seed. It doesn't really
there in the conversation. Almost always as long as
they're not like the weak point of the football team, and he's
certainly not the weak point in the football team is. He's
played phenomenal this year. So, I understand that. Do I put
him in the same classes?
Some of the other guys there? No,
I don't, I don't think the same amount of pressure.
Is on him is you know,
Mahomes Allen and Lamar Jackson where it's all about them.
And so that's where I always push back against that. But
nonetheless, he deserves to be in this conversation for sure.
Okay, so we're going to hand out Awards based on what we've
seen so far, not who we think the favorites are to win it but
based on the first nine weeks of the Season,
we're going to do several of them, all the major ones, if we
can get to them and I think we can cool MVP. Who is your
nine-week NFL MVP?
I'm still gonna go with Josh Allen as we sit here.
Right now, I am. It's really close between him and Patrick
Mahomes. I am, I feel like Josh Allen has, you know,
maybe been a little bit more extraordinary at times
than Patrick Mahomes. Look man. It's
it's nitpicking. It really is.
I think the only thing I look at right now is like Josh,
Allen's rushing and his ability to call Design quarterback runs
is something, maybe that puts him over the edge but he's like
he's the
almost a he's one of the greatest one, man. Those I've
ever seen.
I mean again even last week we do, can praise the Jets and go oh
no, the Jets, they did all these good things and
I sit there and watch back that film history and I got them
know if they ever really stopped Buffalo other than
Buffalo. Just did a few dumb things in the game. You know,
he's almost Unstoppable, so I'll go with Josh Alan but
Patrick Mahomes like nipping at his heels.
I was leaning Mahomes. Yeah, and I thought of something, as
you were saying, yeah, a very simple test. Very simple test
flip Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes. Hmm. Put Josh Alvin on
the Chiefs and put Pat Mahomes on the bills. How do you feel
about the team's? How do you feel about the quarterbacks?
And I love, well you put Josh Allen with
with handy read.
Whoa,
and kind of get some what we're talking about yesterday. Yeah,
with
the bills relying too much on Josh hollan, the offense is
officially diverse. The running game is non-existent, of
course, it's not exactly thriving in Kansas City, but
but if you flip those two guys,
I would, I would feel like the chiefs of the clear. Favorite
to go to the Super Bowl and win it. No.
And, you know how I feel about Patrick Mahomes.
It's, it's, it's a thin.
It's a thin margin. Yeah. But you question, whether Mahomes
can make buffalo work, the way Alan makes it. That's what your
question. Right? Right. Because of the support in Kansas City
versus supporting Buffalo, but they're both awesome, there's
no question. They're the best to.
They are the two clear candidates in my mind with
Jalen hurd's kind of On The Fringe. Because these are
unbeaten, right? I'll go Josh Allen
after thinking about this alternate reality where Alan is
with the bills are Chiefs, excuse me, and Mahomes is with
the bills. I
that's the the
photo finish. Yeah, Josh Alan. I hear that that I'm with you.
I think you did a good job of explaining that.
All right defensive player of the year, the betting odds
here, it's not even close and I don't know how much time we
even need to spend on it. Is there anyone other than Michael
Parsons
Well, I mean we match you. Donna of course, has jumped on
the scene, and I mean every week getting sacked. I think
the guy at the bottom of the list, deserves a little bit of
like,
acknowledge them in here.
Von Miller. I mean, he has closed out some games and made
some incredibly big plays for the Buffalo Bills,
but no, you're right Mike. I mean, Max Crosby is probably
worthy of being on this conversation too, but they're
not good enough. Michael Parsons is the demon supply of
there's
I think it's kind of a it's closed. To official, I think
it's there.
I think he's the best even supplier in football now,
I don't mean to say that and disrespect Aaron, Donald but
just the guys everywhere and every facet of the game and
then, you know, he's one of the NFL sacked leaders and
I guarantee he doesn't have the same amount of opportunities
to rush the quarterback
that the rest of the NFL sack leaders have because he's
playing stand-up linebacker and he's in coverage and doing
things of that nature. So, effect of the game,
I still think Michael Parson should have been the demons.
MVP last year. I know TJ W had all those sacks and everything
but we talked about Michael Parsons on Sunday Night
Football, all 18 weeks last year and welcome what he did.
Look what he did. Look what he did,
right? And that's where he's the man right now.
So, we're there together and that one.
Yeah.
And Jude on leads the NFL right now, the eleven half sacks.
Yeah, Darius Smith has been a sack machine right for
the Vikings this year. And and you see that
the players from the really good teams, end up getting
extra consideration, when it's time to make the vote. But
I think it's going to be difficult because Parsons
already has that reputation and the stats just enhance
the presence
and if he is among the top five
in sacks that just that makes it even though it's insane.
This is the guy he can do anything. He does everything
and he's one of the reasons why the Cowboys are so good. They
shot the rush the passer. Like Michael Miles Garrett is every
play, he
he doesn't get those opportunity, that's what's
amazing. Is you go I'd the percentage of sacks. He gets /
Rush attempt. I think is the thing that would blow
So people out of the water, if they really saw it,
I want to go to Coach to the year now and I'm sorry to go
out of order, but I feel like that one's a more compelling
conversation than some of these other. Some of these others are
pretty close and I don't think we're going to argue all that
much. All right, come and go coach then comeback Player of
the Year,
Coach of the Year,
Nick suriani is the betting favorite
and look, they're undefeated.
But to me coach of the year is always
who
best exceeds. I know the expectations right entering
the season, right? And it comes down
to Pete. Carroll
Kevin O'Connell and Brian day but we can't. Well I don't like
to go to that. I could go O'Connell carril de Bois and
salih right now. I'm feeling it with O'Connell
because of the dramatic transformation of
the organization. Yeah that he has presided over and how they're
winning close games. Whereas in the past, they lose close
games. How the players are being propped up with optimism
and Hope. Instead of being beaten down
with fear and pessimism and negativity
and it's created and this happens all the time. Team
fires a coach in the try to find a guy who's the exact
opposite personality wise and then
when they fire him they go the other way. It did. They ping
pong back and forth. But this has been a dramatic shift and
this team is seven and one and nobody would have expected
the Vikings to be 7 and 1. So
there are plenty of great candidates, plenty of worthy
candidates, but I give it to a Connell over siriano, I hear
you there. You know, again I don't want to discredit what
syriana is done either. This is special and what he did last
year was damn
good but
he's got damn good team. Well that's gotta go,
I don't think anybody anybody that was following the league
thought the Eagles could be doing this, right? I mean we
all thought there's a good chance you've when
the schedules came out when we got before the regular season and
we looked at the schedules, even one
more time, we were then saying,
man, the Eagles could be nine and one going into week, ten,
Aaron going into Week 11. So that's where it's not shocking.
I kind of tend to go towards your line of thinking.
The guys who have totally exceeded expectations and come
out of nowhere okano. Certainly a good one
day. Solids are going to that. Remember we're looking at
the front end of that. Scared to say who did they piss off? 345
Park Avenue? I don't remember having this many options ever.
I don't I did where it's this close and you can make
Arguments for all of them acting elements. A good
argument, I get it, I like it, you know,
Mike Daniel course with the Miami Dolphins now, their team
was good. I guess more. We question about, can his
personality and stuff work, and he's improved them
their offense especially
but damn, caroled able and Saleh, those are ones that
I just look at. I want to go with Pete, Carroll. And that's who
I'm going to go with her. I'm going to go with Pete carril.
De ball is certainly is right there with it too because
nobody expected that but Pete Carroll come on. I mean we were
talking about just trade DK, Metcalf, ball it up,
she get it, get it out, get it over with
Just start to rebuild you got no chance
and now they're one of the most exciting teams to watch there
in the thick of things and they're real. And
I know that's why he's Pete Carroll. I feel like I'd go
with Pete Carroll right now. If you gave me a vote.
Well and, you know, with day ball two, I know it's thank his
Carol's. Got a bunch of great new rookies that were drafted
by John Schneider, but they've been developed by Pete, Carroll
right? But de-ball
walked into a spot where there wasn't much they could do to
overhaul that roster in one year. And he's gotten more out
of it than we ever dreamed that I could ever really is amazing.
It's a great, but a one ever
maybe the answer will become obvious when
week 18 has come and gone but it's not going to be
a cakewalk. And at some point, I don't
expect the equals to go 17. Know if they do then just give
it to Nick suriani. If they go 17 and 0, I'll concede, he's
the coach to the, you sure.
I will not and I was not enough to just say, well, you get it
because you haven't lost a game yet. But but if they have
losses, it's going to be very difficult to draw the lines
between
Tween eagles with Siri, on E Vikings with a Connell Seahawks
with Carol, Giants with de-ball jets with Salah.
And whoever else may rise up. Maybe Jeff Saturday will be
the coach of the Year by the time it's all said and done. I think
I'm kidding. Who knows
comeback player the year. That's the next one. I want to do
because
the comeback Player of the Year, award fascinates me.
There's no definition for it. What are you coming back from
Matthew? Stafford was comeback player. In 2011.
What was he coming back from?
He just had arrived.
The seen Ryan Tannehill, 2019, Sharon Williams, observation
was. What's he coming back from a career of sucking. So
and and she's a very big Texas A & M supporter and he went to
am, but she, you know, she tells it like it is so, you
know, are you coming back from injury? Are you coming back
from adversity? Are you coming back from something in season?
Are you
coming back from something last season? Are you finally
achieving the potential you had coming into the NFL? I don't,
I don't know how you define it, Chris, but I'm leaning Geno.
Smith hazard.
The sports books right now. When you look at the favorite,
he's coming back from years. In the wilderness
of a guy that wasn't regarded as a potential starter.
And now, he's one of the best quarterbacks in football.
I mean, I don't think you can even,
I don't think you can even argue this one and I'd say,
Kwanzaa great story. But
I mean Geno, Smith is third and football and quarterback
rating. All right. I don't love quarterback ready, but it's
still 15 touchdowns for interceptions. They're not
playing through there.
Fence. He's won in games. He made he's like a baller.
And yes, he hasn't played in forever. I'm a Gino here all
the way as much as some of the guys in the list I got respect
for what they did genome wins it
and forget hyper-technical about the word comeback
comeback implies that there was something that you did
that fell off and you came back, he never
thought he would only have made up
of know the league.
Right. I know, but come back and Plies. You were here? Yeah,
right. Well, I had a problem with Matthew snatch it, right?
Third year, and to disappointing seasons and he
finally has a breakout that would be like making two of The
Comeback player of the year. What did he come back from?
Yeah, he's finally had a good year.
So that's why I have a problem when I got this. Very loose
vague idea. And, and I'm still saying Geno Smith
because to me it's this circuitous route of being
a backup and being To being downtrodden. He's coming, he's
coming back to
the potential that we believed he had coming in to the NFL.
That's that's the only way you can argue that. It's a comeback
player the year. We got sake, won't Berkeley. Got Christian
McCaffrey
who missed a lot of time last year, due to injury and
Barclays, had struggles with his knee, getting back to
the guy that he was in 2018. He fits the definition more. He
would be S for me. Right? Right. And by the book, he is
that he
fits that term to what you're saying. Sure,
all right, offensive. Rookie of the Year
going to Seattle. Again, I'm in. How can it how can it not
be Ken Walker? The third briefs Hall
and Kent Walker. The third would have been the two top
candidates, but once you get injured,
it's the other guy. The other guy comes in and fills
the void. No doubt, it's right, it's Ken Walker the third right
now, that's a no-brainer. I mean he's one of the running
backs as leading the league in yards per carry and then I mean
he's
seven touchdowns already at this point in the year,
didn't
you look at their success? Their team. What kind of when
he became the guy, things started to kind of Skyrocket
from there and then again Mike I think this guy's already in
the conversation of best running back in football.
There's just there's not many people on
Earth that can do what he can do.
This is like we're watching, you know, we're watching.
Special, special, special running back here. A guy that
can run you over. Like, we're showing here, run through arm
tackles make you miss, break your ankles, and then outrun
a bunch of Guys who run for three and secondaries, and they
can't catch him. That's, that's really rare. This is, this is
a guy that has a chance at least four way it looks right now to
be an all-time great.
So, that's no-brainer here for this one.
All right, let's shift over then. And other guys who are on
the list, we saw Chris olave. Damien Pierce has been
phenomenal. 39 yards on your profession on Thursday night.
He's the brightest spot on that. Houston roster happily.
They put
other players around it while he still has tread on the tires.
But I think I think it will be Ken Walker. The third barring
an injury that really derails the second half of his career.
And as we know with the running back position that can happen
Defensive Rookie of the Year. In my mind, there's two.
And I know which way I'm leaning. Where you lean?
I'm Lena to the guy in front.
I am
sauce Gardner,
you know, it's phenomenal. So that's where it's, you know,
this is to me where
an again, Tariq wool and special. He is, he's got
a chance to To be one of these guys. It's the top DB in
football there. Devon Lloyd for the Jacksonville Jaguars. He is
everywhere, he's amazing
but sauce Gardener
you know it's a lot like a little bit like Patrick Sartain
last year he's jumped on the scene and it's okay yeah
Defensive Rookie of the Year and already one of the best
corners and football like no doubt
like a corner that is in the top 5 of football as a rookie.
So yeah, it's sauce Gardener for me.
There's one other guy that I want to mention. Yeah. Who is
it? Has it? He's not, he's not it now.
Yeah, he's got a chance in the second half robbery Joseph.
Hmm, the lion safe. Do you have two interceptions on
Sunday? We do our weekly Awards of PFT. He's a rookie of
the week and he had a great at a great comment on social media.
To be honest, I just been farting. Y'all ain't seen poop
emoji yet. So
all right, thank you. So he's yes that but that's him.
He said, that's what he said,
so it's not me. It's him.
And and the whole point is,
they have seen the potential.
He just hasn't had the breakout. He had to break out
on Sunday against the Packers, if he continues that and if
the lions come with some more games, I think we're
understating the value of being on a decent team, you know,
those odd degree, it's rookie. The year that had Damien
Pearson can walk with a third so close.
I don't know who,
I don't know why you're betting on Damien Pierce
right now because the
the Texans are bad. And if you're on a
Good team. You have a better chance of getting that award
typically. So I'll go sauce Gardiner though, but keep
an eye on Kirby Joseph.
As he could. He could, he could do the coming up on
the outside. And
as we get down the
down, rather homestretch, now the turn or whatever,
the horse-racing terms are. All right, let's take a break when
we return.
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