IF THE PARTY IS WITHOUT A
PLATFORM, THE PARTY IS WITHOUT
PRINCIPLES, THEN WHAT DOES IT
STAND FOR.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT THEY
MISSED AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE A
PRESIDENT CONTROLS THE PLATFORM.
I REMEMBER IN 1972, THE MIAMI
CONVENTION, RICHARD NIXON
CONTROLLED THE CONVENTION FROM
BEGINNING TO END.
AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IN THE
CONVENTION HALL, THERE WERE
GIANT MURALS OF --
AT THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION,
THERE WERE PICTURES OF THESE TWO
COMMUNIST LEADERS.
THAT WAS NIXON’S POLICY AT THE
TIME.
TRUMP COULD HAVE USED PLATFORM
WEEK TO PROMOTE HIS OWN POLICIES
AND PUT THEM ON PAPER.
SOME OF THEM THAT CONSERVATIVES
CAN AGREE WITH THAT ARE GOOD AND
HE COULD HAVE USED THEM TO
EMPHASIZE HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS OR
CLAIM HIS PLIRN MENTACCOMPLISHME
LAST FOUR YEARS.
I CONSIDER IT A MISSED
OPPORTUNITY TO ADVANCE WHATEVER
HE ADVANCED BUT ALSO A MISSED
OPPORTUNITY WHERE THE PARTY IS
GOING TO STAND NEXT JANUARY OR
FOUR YEARS HENCE.
>> AND KATTY KAY, WHAT CONCERNS
ME THE MOST, MANY THINGS THAT
CONCERNS ME, IS I REALLY THINK
BECAUSE OF DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGES
IN THIS COUNTRY, I THINK THAT
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS GOING TO
WIN TEXAS MOVING FORWARD AND THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS GOING TO BE
IN POWER FOR THE NEXT 30, 40
YEARS AND WHAT CONCERNS ME IS
THAT WHOEVER IS PRESIDENT,
REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT, THEY ARE
GOING TO USE ALL OF TRUMP’S
ACTIONS AS PRECEDENT.
SO WHETHER IT’S A REPUBLICAN OR
INDEPENDENT OR A DEMOCRAT, THEY
WILL BE USING ALL THE PRECEDENCE
OF THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY.
AND AGAIN, IT IS A PRESIDENCY
THAT IS DEVOID OF A PLATFORM AND
A PRESIDENCY DEVOID OF
TRADITIONAL POLICIES.
YOU KNOW, WE USED TO SUPPORT
BALANCED BUDGETS.
YOU KNOW, SMALL GOVERNMENT.
WE WERE ANTI-RUSSIA,
ANTI-AUTHORITARIANISM,
PRO-DEMOCRACY, PRO-FREEDOM.
WE WERE THE PARTY THAT SUPPORTED
THE FREEING OF THE SLAVES.
WE WERE THE PARTY THAT SUPPORTED
THE TEARING DOWN OF WALLS.
NONE OF THAT WAS SPOKEN ABOUT
LAST NIGHT.
BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP ONLY WANTED
PEOPLE SPEAKING ABOUT HIM AND
BUILDING THESE IMAGINARY
STRAWMEN THAT TRUMP COULD THEN
LATER KNOCK DOWN.
>> YEAH, THE ARGUMENT OF LAST
NIGHT WAS THERE’S A CULTURE WAR.
YOU CHOOSE WHICH SIDE OF IT
YOU’RE ON.
YOU’RE EITHER WITH DONALD TRUMP
OR YOU’RE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.
THAT’S A COMMON THEME OF
POPULISM, WHETHER IT’S IN
HUNGARY OR POLAND.
IT’S EITHER YOU’RE WITH ME OR
YOU’RE DE FACTO AGAINST ME.
AND EVERYONE WHO IS AGAINST ME
IS A THREAT AND IS BAD.
AND THE POLICIES AND PRINCIPLES
DON’T REALLY MATTER SO MUCH.
I WANTED TO ASK CARLY SOMETHING
BECAUSE YOU HAD SOME VERY SAGE
ADVICE THERE TO DEMOCRATS IF
THEY WANT TO TRY TO WIN OVER
PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR TRUMP BACK
IN 2016.
BUT I GUESS THE QUESTION FOR
DEMOCRATS WOULD BE, THERE IS A
STRAND OF NATIVISM IN WHAT WE
HEARD LAST NIGHT.
AND THERE ARE DOG WHISTLES ABOUT
RACE WHEN THEY -- WITH THESE
ITERATIONS ABOUT SUBURBS AND
SUBURBS BEING DESTROYED.
WOULD YOUR ADVICE TO THE
DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP BE JUST
IGNORE ALL OF THAT?
DON’T TAKE THAT ON?
IN WHICH CASE, THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY IS GOING TO ACCUSE YOU OF
PANDERING AND IGNORING SOMETHING
THAT’S REAL, OR HOW WOULD YOU
SUGGEST THEY HANDLE THAT?
IGNORE THE NATIVISM IN THE
TRUMPIAN PARTY AT THE MOMENT?
>> NO.
YOU CAN’T IGNORE IT.
IT’S APPALLING.
AND I HAVEN’T IGNORED IT, NOR
SHOULD THEY IGNORE IT.
IT’S APPALLING.
IT’S REAL.
WHEN THE PRESIDENT’S SONS ARE
HOLDING UP QANON AS A LEGITIMATE
POLITICAL MOVEMENT.
IT’S APPALLING.
AND THERE ARE PEOPLE IN TRUMP’S
BASE WHO ARE WITHOUT A DOUBT
RACIST, WHITE SUPREMACISTS AND
NATIVISTS.
IT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO
CALL OUT DONALD TRUMP AS A
DANGER TO THE SOUL OF AMERICA.
I BELIEVE THAT.
IT’S WHY I WILL VOTE FOR BIDEN.
IT’S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO
CALL OUT HIS THREAT TO
CONSTITUTIONAL ALAL NORMS AND
PRECEDENCE.
IT’S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO
CALL OUT HOW HE IS DIVIDING THIS
NATION ALONG EVERY CONCEIVABLE
LINE, AND IT’S CRITICALLY
IMPORTANT TO CALL OUT THAT
CHARACTER MATTERS, AS DOES
LEADERSHIP.
AND HE HAS NEITHER.
AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK IT’S
VERY -- BY THE WAY, I THINK THE
DEMOCRATS DID A REALLY GOOD JOB
OF THAT LAST WEEK, AND THEY MUST
DO THAT TO GALVANIZE THEIR BASE.
BUT AS WE KNOW, THE DEMOCRATS
NEED TO GET THEIR BASE OUT TO
VOTE, AND THEY ALSO NEED TO
CONVINCE PEOPLE WHO VOTED ONCE
FOR OBAMA AND ONCE FOR TRUMP TO
COME BACK TO THE DEMOCRAT PARTY.
AND SO TO DO THAT, MY ADVICE
WOULD SIMPLY BE, DO NOT LUMP
EVERYONE WHO VOTED FOR TRUMP
INTO THE CATEGORY OF THE WORST
OF TRUMP’S BASE.
SEE VOTERS.
SEE CITIZENS AS INDIVIDUALS AND
UNDERSTAND THAT THE THEMES THAT
TRUMP PLAYS ON OF, YOU CAN’T
TRUST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT,
YOU CAN’T TRUST THE MEDIA, YOU
CAN’T TRUST POLITICIANS.
THEY’RE ALL CROOKS.
UNDERSTAND THOSE THEMES HAVE
BEEN AROUND AND ALIVE AND WELL
IN AMERICA FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
AND THERE IS REASON FOR PEOPLE
TO BELIEVE THAT SOMETIMES YOU
CAN’T TRUST THE MEDIA OR THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR
POLITICIANS.
>> ALL RIGHT.
CARLY FIORINA AND CRAIG SHIRLEY,
THANK YOU.
CRAIG, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING
ON.
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