WORTH IT.
DAVID?
DAVID: HILLARY VAUGHN, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
STICKING WITH HEALTH CARE NOW,
TRUMP TWEETING OUT QUOTE, BASED
ON THE FACT THAT THE VERY UNFAIR
AND UNPOPULAR INDIVIDUAL MANDATE
HAS BEEN TERMINATED AS PART OF
OUR TAX CUT BILL, WHICH
ESSENTIALLY REPEALS OBAMACARE
OVER TIME, THE DEMOCRATS AND
REPUBLICANS WILL EVENTUALLY COME
TOGETHER AND DEVELOP A GREAT NEW
HEALTH CARE PLAN.
OBAMACARE'S SIGN UPS HAVE NOT
SLOWED DOWN.
THEY ARE MATCHING NOW LAST
YEAR'S SIGN-UP-RATE.
LOUDON, FORMER DEHE IS DEMOCRAT
IC PARTY CHAIR SCOTT
BOLDEN.
GOOD TO SEE YOU BOTH.
SCOTT, FIRST TO YOU.
ANY DEMOCRATIC SUPPORT ON HEALTH
CARE REFORM?
>> IT WILL NOT BE POSSIBLE TO
GET ANY DEMOCRATIC SUPPORT IN
2018 BUT HERE IS THE NEWS FLASH.
WITH HEALTH CARE AS DIVISIVE AS
IT IS WITH THE BACKDROP BEING
THE 2018 MIDTERMS.
NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
NOW THERE PROBABLY SHOULD BE
CHANGES TO THE OBAMA BILL BUT
THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE, THEY
PULLED THAT BACK, BUT SEVERAL
THOSE OPTIONS, BUT, GINA, FIRST
TO YOU, IT IS HARD TO IMAGINE,
PARTICULARLY OVER THE PAST
COUPLE MONTHS WHAT THE DEMOCRATS
AND REPUBLICANS COULD AGREE TO
ON HEALTH CARE?
FEELINGS AS WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO
CONVINCE THE DEMOCRATS TO DO
EVER SINCE THE ELECTION.
AMERICAN ECONOMY.
IF YOU APPLY THAT SAME TEMPLATE
TO OUR HEALTH CARE, IT WILL GIVE
AMERICANS MORE CHOICES.
IT WILL BOOST THEIR POWER IN THE
IT WILL BOOST THEIR POWER IN THç
IT IS COMMON SENSE, ECONOMICS IS
01.
A LOT OF TIMES DEMOCRATS DON'T
WANT TO LISTEN BUT THAT IS THE
ANSWER.
DAVID: SCOTT, YOU SAID ENDING
INDIVIDUAL MACHINE DATE WOULD BE
PROBLEM, SOME PEOPLE THINK, SOME
DEMOCRATS THINK IT COULD LEAD TO
SERIOUS PROGRAMS FOR OBAMACARE
PASCRELL, HE DESIGNED AND WROTE
HE SAID THEY, REFERRING TO
REPUBLICANS, OBVIOUSLY COULDN'T
THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE GOOD
NEWS FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE IN
FAVOR OF KEEPING OBAMACARE.
>> THAT IS, THAT IS ONE PERSON'S
OPINION.
THE REALITY IS THIS.
IF THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE GONE
AWAY THE RESULTS OF THAT WE'LL
HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK WHAT HAPPENS
IN 2019.
HERE IS THE PROBLEM FOR
DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS.
IF THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE HAD
THEY WON'T GET PENALIZED FOR IT.
YOU WILL HAVE A VERY SIGNIFICANT
INSURANCE POOL OF SICK PEOPLE.
THAT IS GOING TO DRIVE THE
PREMIUMS UP.
DAVID: THAT IS TRUE.
SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE DESCRIBING AN
ENDç TO OBAMACARE?
>> NO.
WHAT I THINK THE GOVERNMENT IS
GOING TO DO AND WHAT McCONNELL
THEY'RE IN CONTROL, THEY WILL
HAVE TO SUPPORT AND FINANCIALLY
SUPPORT THESE INSURANCE MARKETS
>> IN ANY EVENT THEY WILL HAVE
TO FINANCIALLY SUPPORT IT IN
SOME WAY.
MITCH McCONNELL BELIEVES THAT.
WHILE THEY MAY BE DIVISIVE.
THAT WILL SIMPLY HAVE TO HAPPEN.
DAVID: GINA, PEOPLE ARE
CONCERNED THAT REPUBLICANS ARE
INSURANCE COMPANIES TO SAVE
OBAMACARE, THAT WOULDN'T FLY,
WOULD IT?
>> THEY'RE SAVING --
DAVID: THAT IS FOR GINA.
GO AHEAD.
>> THAT IS A BAD WHY, THIS IS
THE PROBLEM WITH SOCIALIZING
ANYTHING.
IT DOESN'T WORK.
THE MARKET DOESN'T BEAR IT OUT.
WHEN YOU HAVE A FREE SOCIETY
WHERE 20%, JUST IMAGINE THAT FOR
A MOMENT, SOMETIMES WE FORGET,
HOW MUCH OF OUR ECONOMY IS ALL
INVOLVED IN THIS WHOLE OBAMACARE
BUT 20% OF OUR ECONOMY IS ALL
WRAPPED UP IN ESSENTIALLY WHAT
IS SOCIALIZED IT DOESN'T WORK.
IF THIS WHOLE PREMISE WILL NEVER
WORK IN A FREE SOCIETY.
AND THEN WE WILL SEE THE LACK OF
REGULATION PLUS THE FREE MARKET
THRIVE AND, EVERYONE WILL BE
DOING BETTER INCLUDING INSURANCE
COMPANIES BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY
INCLUDING PATIENTS.
ONE ADDITIONAL THING.
THE PEOPLE WHO ENDED UP PAYING
FEES WITH OBAMACARE MAKE LESS
THAN $50,000 A YEAR.
THIS IS NOT HELPING THEM.
DAVID: SCOTT, I PROMISE I, I
WANTED TO HEAR YOUR OPINIONS OF
WHERE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS
COULD AGREE TO TWEAK THE HEALTH
CARE SYSTEM TO MAKE IT BETTER,
QUICKLY.
THERE IS SO MUCH POLITICAL BAD
BLOOD BETWEEN THEM.
THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
KEEP THOSE INSURANCE PREMIUMS
DOWN AND REASONABLE SO YOU DON'T
HAVE THE SPIKES AND WHAT HAVE
BUT AMERICA IS CHOOSING
OBAMACARE, INCLUDING VERY VOTERS
THAT THE REPUBLICANS WANT TO
VOTE FOR THEM.
THEY'RE CHOOSING IT.
DAVID: SCOTT I STARTED WITH YOU,
I WANT TO END WITH GINA.
WHAT SPECIFICALLY COULD
REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS AGREE
ON HOW TO TWEAK OBAMACARE?
>> I THINK TAKING A LOOK WHO IS
REALLY BEING HURT BY THIS, THAT
IS THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS.
THEY ARE THE ONES BEARING THE
BRUNT OF IT.
IT IS SIX PEOPLE, BECAUSE THEY
WILL NOT HAVE HEALTHY PEOPLE IN
THE POOLS.
THOSE ARE THINGS WE CAN AGREE ON
THOSE ARE THINGS WE CAN AGREE Oç
TO MOVE FORWARD, FREE IT UP
BASED ON WHAT WE JUST DID