Satsang with Mooji
(with subtitles)
[Questioner] Let the identification be there,
stay with the Presence, slow down.
[Mooji] No, it won't stay.
If the identification or the tendency to identify
is recognised as just some ...
and felt also that it pulls the Beingness
into unpleasant states very often,
for a while we are in the spring of life, we enjoy,
but at a certain time it will start to bite and it has to bite.
And this bite is Grace.
It forces you to go more deeply into what is real.
And as the attention discovers more
the greater space of Being,
it will leave behind the fascination for the ego.
And if attention is not feeding the ego itself,
its power will be diminished,
its authority will be broken.
And so, gradually you lose interest in that,
because something greater has come.
When greater things come
then the old fascination is gone, finished.
So it cannot be constantly there.
If it's there it's because a little investment is there,
a little investment is there,
so then it keeps sitting at the door waiting for you,
because it knows it's going to be fed, it's going to come.
And this can be a slow process also, of slowly letting go of it.
Because sometimes, we feel, ‘OK, I'm finished!’
It's like a bad relationship, ‘I am finished with you!’ [laughter]
You go off, and then you start to think about it,
'Hmm, maybe I was a bit hurried really'. [laughter]
So you send a little text to the ego, [laughter]
'OK, let's have another go', or something like that.
Some people can do it. Like I say, they can separate,
like breaking a cracker, 'Crack!' It's finished. Done.
For some it's like separating pizza
with lots of mozzarella, hot, [laughter]
can't separate.
So, slowly it takes time to really let go,
because we're not sure we're doing the right thing.
We're not sure, ‘Should I really, I mean,
really let go of my attachment to the mind completely?'
It's not so dramatic.
More and more as you are discovering your own true Self-love,
the real Self that is love,
then what is not true, what is not real, is easily let go of.
It's just you lose interest.
You don't have to chop it, or something. You lose interest in that.
And the voice is less near, it's more distant.
Like it's said that sometimes even in the daytime
you can see the moon when the sun is up.
Sometimes the moon is there, but nobody pays attention to it,
because the sun is here now. [Mooji laughs]
In the light of your own inner reality,
the shallowness of the egoic mind is not appealing for you.
So, it will be felt like, 'It exists', 'Doesn't exist'.
You're not even concerned about it.
[Q.] Thank you. [Mooji] It's good, like that?
[Mooji] Then if something more is left, let's look.
But don't go searching.
[Q.] The question comes, 'What do I do?' [Mooji] Ah.
[laughter]
[Mooji] The mantra of the mind itself,
'What do we do? What do we do?' [laughter]
Where there's only one place this question can be asked from,
it cannot be asked from the place of the Self.
The Self will never ask this question, 'So what should I do now?'
It's not a doing.
The more we are in the dynamic identity
it's very much a doing thing, 'OK, I tried this,
it didn’t work, now what do I do?'
So that’s a kind of noise of dissatisfaction,
'So what should I do?'
But what you can do is to be aware of this sense now,
‘OK, so what can I do? Who wants to find this out even?'
There are some people who really catch this question
and feel the real power of it,
'Who is asking this question?'
You believe it, and because you believe it you have to follow it.
But some know immediately
that this question is just coming from the mind. You keep quiet.
They know already that it just comes from the mind.
[Q.] I know it comes just from the mind. [Mooji] Yes, yes.
[Mooji] Then is it not enough to know that it is the mind?
Or does the mind still has so much
sex appeal? [laughter]
It snaps a finger, 'I'm here at your service my Lord',
we're ready to follow. Do you have any defences?
Do you have any immune system against your mind,
that as soon as it lifts up we are in service, or what?
So somehow it can only arise,
only appear in the space of your being.
You are the greater.
You can exist without the mind
but the mind cannot exist without you.
Which is the greater?
So don't be afraid of its voice. You don't have to follow.
There are some people,
every time a thought arises in the mind they react to it.
'That person is looking at you funny.' 'Oh, which one?’
It's like they are acting out their mind.
But you're going to hear this coming,
it tells you, ‘Yes, you're not ready, you're not worthy.'
And, ‘Ooh!' [imitates sadness]
‘Oh, your meditation was so great this morning.'
'Oh, yeah!' [expresses happiness] [laughter]
It's only ... Something here is not mind.
[Q.] I see this. [Mooji] Yes.
[Q.] I see it and I see it arising.
[Q.] What aren't I seeing. [Mooji] What?
[Q.] What aren't I seeing. Why isn't it enough?
[Mooji] It's still coming with some identity, it's still there,
and the identity cannot confirm,
‘I am in total satisfaction'.
Something is stirring it, itching.
It says, ‘I can see that when I leave everything,
but I'm just the Self. It's perfect. Nothing wrong.
But how can I stay in this place?’
So, this question is being asked
by That which is, or by that which wants to be?
Which one are you?
If you say, ‘I am the one approaching the Self,
I'm able to enter Self
and be completely at peace for a while.
But somehow the stirrings of my own tendencies
or vasanas are so strong, I can't stay long,
I have to go out again'.
So, are you the one that comes in and goes out?
Or are you That which is aware of the coming in and going out,
but is not the one that comes in and goes out?
It must be clear about it.
And then you say, 'Sometimes I am not that which comes and goes,
and sometimes I am. It feels as though I am'.
So, you must contemplate it more and see,
‘But what comes in and goes out is not Self-witnessing.
Something observes the sense of coming in and out,
so that cannot be in the bubble
of the movement of coming in and out'.
So, just you are confirming,
'Then that sense 'I', where are its feet resting?
In that which comes and goes,
or in that which cannot come and go?
And if it cannot come and go, then I must be That'.
But it must not just be mental.
You must confirm, verify,
'But I am the witness of the coming and going,
so therefore I don't need to worry about what comes and goes'.
Something must come out of it.
'How can I stay?'
Is this question asked by That which Is
or that which wants to be?
Which one are you?
Video extract from the Satsang DVD 'The Lion Replaces the Sheep'
19th January 2012 Tiruvannamalai, India
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