Unfortunately there are more
coronavirus-related deaths at this
point, more than 750,000 Americans
have died from the pandemic.
And we're still hearing cases where
people are unvaccinated and
still think that
Ivermectin is the solution.
A Florida teacher for instance,
was admitted to the hospital with
COVID-19-related complications.
And she has died weeks after her
husband filed a lawsuit against
the medical center in an attempt to
force her doctors
to treat her with ivermectin.
The doctors of course, said no,
because this is not a medication
that's been proven to treat
coronavirus.
Tamara Drock, 47 year old teacher
near Palm Beach Florida passed away
from Covid complications after 12
weeks in the hospital.
Her husband had sued the hospital
last month to force doctors to
administer ivermectin, an anti
parasite medication, but the judge
didn't buy his arguments in court.
And so Palm Beach County Circuit
judge James Nutt rejected rocks
lawsuits saying allowing judges to
countermand doctors decisions could
set a dangerous precedent.
He urged the drugs and
the hospital to try to reach
an agreement on their own.
A deal fell apart after
a doctor agreed to administer
ivermectin at a dosage.
The family's attorney said was too
low because the family attorney
would certainly know better than
the doctor administering the drug
that has not been proven
to treat coronavirus.
Now after his wife's death,
Drock is not willing to give up.
Instead, he plans on expanding his
crusade so that others don't go
through what he went through.
He says, quote, I'm hoping they
name a law after her.
So no one has to go through this.
If she had walked out of
the hospital,
she could have had the medication.
He also says we don't know if
the drug would have saved her life.
But it could have, he argues.
It could have.
>> No, couldn't.
>> Exactly, maybe it wouldn't have
done anything.
But we're pursuing the case
strictly from a legal perspective
every person in Florida has
a constitutional right to choose
what is done with their own body.
>> Be careful right wing if you
want to agree with that because
then women would have a right to do
whatever they want with their body.
And I know that that's like your
nightmare.
>> That's always
the carve out though.
>> Yeah. >> That's always.
>> Yeah, anything you want with
your body unless you're a woman and
if you get pregnant then we own
your body and
we can do whatever we want to it
anyways now in this case.
So you can say well, all right,
Jenkin flip it.
I like to say,
we should always look at it.
What if the shoe was on
the other foot?
Why can't they take whatever
they want?
Well, it's when you're in
a hospital, the doctors have
a certain responsibility to give
you treatment that is effective.
So, just fill in the blank with
other medicine and you'll begin to
get a sense of how absurd it is.
What if they were insisting?
No, it's got to be Metamucil,
you've got to give her Metamucil to
treat her coronavirus?
Well, the doctors would say, well,
that's got nothing to do with
anything know that we're not going
to give her that right?
They said no, I'm going to force
you to give her that.
Okay, but
maybe it's harmless, right?
But what if it was chemotherapy and
they're saying you must give my
wife chemotherapy?
Well, the doctor's gotta has taken
a pledge to not do any harm and
he can't give you chemotherapy.
It doesn't make any sense with this
I've ever met in is
the same thing in the sense that
it's not necessarily as harmful
as chemotherapy, but it's not for
this disease.
It just isn't.
They picked a random drug almost
out of the blue, Ivermectin, okay.
And they're saying now doctors,
even though you all know this is
wrong, we demand that you
do the wrong thing and treat and
give the wrong medicine,
otherwise we're going to sue you.
Earlier in the show we did a story
where they now have bounties on
firing teachers if they teach
about racism, right?
That's the New Hampshire 500 bucks
a pop, you turn him in now there's
bounties, in a sense,
we'll do this lawsuit on doctors if
you don't give the wrong medicine,
we're going to sue you?
>> Yeah and I mean, what should
also be considered is the fact that
you have a woman who is being
treated at this hospital for
12 weeks.
So clearly there's some trust in
the health care professionals who
are providing care for your wife.
So if you trust the doctors, then
why not listen to the advice and
the expertise from the doctor's,
right?
And if you don't trust the doctors,
why admit your wife to this
hospital?
It's just, look,
we're in this weird and
it's frustrating.
We're in this place
where everyone thinks they're
an expert on everything,
right, mother's conservatives.
They think that there
are educational experts and
they know better than teachers and
educators who have gone to school,
gone to college, got their
credentials and have the expertise
necessary to do their jobs.
They want to tell teachers what
they can and
can't teach in history classes.
Then in this case,
you have people who think they're
medical experts because they
watched a Joe Rogan podcast or
something and they're convinced.
It's guys,
we have to trust in people who have
gone through the process of
becoming experts in their field.
It's not to say that everyone gets
it right a 100% of the time.
Of course mistakes are made
sometimes.
But in this case for
ordinary Americans who have no
medical training to just think that
they know better than doctors and
to demand that the doctors
prescribe something that has not
been medically proven
as a treatment for Covid is insane.
>> So, and I will do a slight
asterix on what you said, but I
love where you were going with it.
And so let me see if I
can build on it.
So it depends on the field, right?
So if you say trust politicians
because they are experts in their
field, I say no deal.
>> Yeah, I agree with you on that.
>> Yeah on the other hand, if you
say people have studied a long time
with particular expertise and
knowledge that you need, Doctors,
engineers is a great example right.
Now, it's not just whether I trust
them or not.
What's the alternative they say,
well, you can either trust 99% of
the world's doctors or Joe Rogan.
And by the way, the media
in this country is poisoned.
So corporate media tells you,
don't worry,
the people in charge and
the powerful and
the wealthy are looking out for
your best interest.
It's absurd, don't worry,
politicians are not corrupt when
they take millions of dollars in
legalized bribes.
So corporate media lies to you in
one direction.
Then right wing media comes in and
Rogan and Door and Tucker and all
of them come in and go, no, don't
listen to the damn doctors Meathead
over here knows better than all
the doctors in the country.
And then people believe them
because they doctor doesn't have
a podcast and Rogan does.
And so they listen to him and
they think,
well I trusted him on this and
that and he's pretty and he knows
what he's talking about on MMA.
So he probably knows better
than 99% of the world's doctors.
And so the media poisons
the culture and
gets them to say no do not.
Now to build on what you're saying.
A last thought on this is
the engineers.
Imagine if they did this and
I'm worried about putting this out
into the world because they might
and they said don't listen
to the engineers.
They say to build that bridge with
that kind of material you shouldn't
you should build it with paper
machine Rogan told me.
And now they say paper machines
just for horses.
It's not paper machines also for
humans.
That's why we should build a bridge
with paper machine don't
listen to the engineers,
their goddamn experts.
They studied this for years.
So hence they don't know
the Randall online knows okay so
God help us.
That's probably next because
they've attacked every source of
actual facts and information that's
trying to help you.
So if you want to believe
the Meatheads instead of trained
doctors that's on you brothers and
sisters.
>> Yeah and look it's not just
about Meatheads.
And yes I mentioned Rogan
specifically because he's
the most popular right?
He's got a massive platform and
he's influential but
he's not the only one and there is
an incentive to cover these crazy
like conspiracy theories about
Covid unproven prophylactics.
And also treatments for
Covid, like there's I mean, you see
it play out in the numbers, right?
The number of views that any given
show gets, if they cover Covid from
the perspective of a conspiracy
theorist.
>> 100% I mean, that's look, Tucker
is actually a smart guy who drives
a lot of these conspiracy theories
for his own political purposes.
But Meatheads like Rogan and and
and Door saw all the viewers going
in that direction and they were,
chase the viewers.
I'm going to get more viewers,
I'm going to get more listen,
I'm going to get more money.
Even Rogan who should be immune
from that.
But ironically, he doesn't have
immunity from greed is or
maybe he's just dumb, but
it doesn't matter guys.
Bottom line is just think about
the engineer analogy, if all of
a sudden a podcaster told you that
the engineers don't know how to
build bridges and he knows better,
would you trust the podcaster
to build the bridge instead?
Well, of course you wouldn't,
right, because then the bridge is
going to collapse and
they say after we build a bridge,
your family is going to go over it.
Would you trust the podcaster or
99% of the engineers?
Now, they're saying the same thing
about doctors and
the doctors are also affecting
whether you live or die.
They're saying here,
here's the right medicine and
about a giant percentage of this
country, whatever the number is,
a giant percentages going, no,
I think the meathead podcaster is.
I'm going to put my life in his
hands, instead of agreeing
to 99% of the doctors.
It's mental you should actually
seek treatment from a mental health
professional.