IT IS 5:00 IN NEW YORK CITY, AND
THIS IS "THE FIVE."
THE NO GOOD VERY BAD WEEK FOR
THE FBI JUST GOT WORSE.
LESS THAN 72 HOURS AFTER THE
DURHAM REPORT REVEALED AND
DISCOVERED AND PROVED THAT THE
BOROUGH WAS BIASED AGAINST
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP.
A GROUP OF FBI WHISTLE-BLOWERS
GIVING EXPLOSIVE TESTIMONY ON
CAPITOL HILL.
THE WITNESSES ACCUSING THE
AGENCY OF UNFAIR TREATMENT AND
ALLEGING RETALIATION.
REPUBLICANS SAY THIS IS FURTHER
PROOF OF WHAT IT CALLS
INSTITUTIONAL ROT AND
ANTI-CONSERVATIVE BIAS AND
ADDING TO THE ARGUMENT JUST
BEFORE THE HEARING, THE FBI
YANKED SECURITY CLEARANCES OF
TWO OF THE AGENTS.
>> WORKING AS AN FBI SPECIAL
AGENT WAS MY DREAM JOB, MY
WHISTLE-BLOWING WAS A POLITICAL
UP OATH, BUT THE FBI CLOSED
RANKS AND ATTACKED THE
MESSENGER.
>> MY FAMILY AND I HAVE BEEN
SURVIVING ON EARLY WITHDRAWALS
FROM THE RETIREMENT ACCOUNT
WHILE THE FBI HAS IGNORED MY
REQUEST FOR APPROVAL TO OUTSIDE
EMPLOYMENT.
>> I SWORE AN OATH TO THE
CONSTITUTION.
>> DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE FBI
IS HOSTILE TO YOU FOR THAT
REASON TO KEEP AGENTS FROM
SPEAKING UP?
>> YES, YES, NO QUESTION.
>> Dana: CHAIRMAN JIM JORDAN
MORNING THE WHISTLE-BLOWERS THEY
WOULD FACE HEAVY ATTACKS FROM
DEMOCRATS.
>> WE TALKED TO TWO DOZEN
WHISTLE-BLOWERS, PEOPLE HAVE
COME TO US AND WE HAVE
INTERVIEWED SEVERAL OF THOSE IN
TODAY THREE OF THEM.
THREE OF THOSE BRAVE
WHISTLE-BLOWERS AND A LAWYER WHO
REPRESENTS THEM WILL TELL US
THEIR STORY.
THEY WILL TELL US WHAT HAPPENED.
WHAT THEY SAW AND THEN WHAT
HAPPENED TO THEM BECAUSE THEY
WERE COURAGEOUS ENOUGH TO
REPORTED TO CONGRESS.
I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU GUYS,
GET READY, BECAUSE THEY ARE
GOING TO COME AFTER YOU.
YOU KNOW THEY ARE.
>> Dana: JORDAN WAS ON TO
SOMETHING, THEY BASH REPUBLICANS
WERE EVEN HOLDING THE HEARING
AND TRYING TO UNDERMINE THE
CREDIBILITY OF WHISTLE-BLOWERS.
>> ON POLICE WEEK OF WATCHING
HOUSE REPUBLICANS JUMP TO LATE
THE FOUNDATION TO DEFINE
LAW ENFORCEMENT.
MY COLLEAGUES ON THE FAR RIGHT
ARE ON A MISSION TO ATTACK,
DISCREDIT, AND ULTIMATELY
DISMANTLE THE FBI.
THIS IS THE PHONE THE POLICE ON
STEROIDS.
>> YOU ARE ENGAGING IN A SELF
PROMOTION OF YOUR NEW BOOK ABOUT
TO BE RELEASED.
AND WHAT GREAT TIMING TO BE ON
TV RIGHT BEFORE YOUR BOOK TOUR
STARTS.
>> IN TEXAS WE WOULD SAY THAT
THIS IS A LOT OF HOT AIR, AND IT
AIN’T A WHISTLE-BLOWER.
>> Dana: THIS IS ONE OF THE
MOST HEATED PASSIONATE HEARINGS
I’VE SEEN ON CAPITOL HILL IN A
LONG TIME.
AS WE WATCH THE WHOLE THING THIS
MORNING, BOTH SIDES CAME ALLUDED
TO, AND TO YOUR INITIAL
THOUGHTS?
>> Jesse: THE PRIMARY
ALLEGATION WAS THAT THERE WAS A
CASH INCENTIVE PROGRAM WITH THE
FBI.
SO THE MORE INVESTIGATIONS THE
FEUD OF OFFICE, THE MORE CASH
BONUSES ARE GIVEN TO THE HEAD OF
THE FIELD OFFICE, SO THAT’S WHY
YOU ARE SEEING THIS FLURRY OF
INVESTIGATIONS, A FLURRY OF
ARRESTS, THAT’S WHY SO MANY
JANUARY 6TH PROSECUTIONS, SO
MANY PARENTS ARE BEING
INVESTIGATED, CATHOLICS ARE NOW
BEING INVESTIGATED AND IT
EXPLAINS WHY.
ANYBODY WHO EVEN WENT TO D.C. ON
JANUARY 6TH WAS INVESTIGATED.
THEY WERE INVESTIGATED FOR
MONEY, BUT THEY WERE
INVESTIGATED.
AND BANK OF AMERICA HANDED OVER
TO THE FBI EVERY SINGLE
TRANSACTION THAT WAS MADE BY
PEOPLE WHO FLEW INTO D.C. D.C.
FOR JANUARY 6TH.
NOT ONLY THAT, THE FBI WAS
TAKING OFFICERS OFF OF CHILD
PORN CASES AND MAKING THEM HANG
OUT IN THE PARKING LOTS OF
PARENT-TEACHER CONFERENCES AND
MAKING THEM WRITE DOWN THEIR
LICENSE PLATES.
THEY MADE THE BETSY ROSS FLAG OR
THE BUMPER STICKER THAT SAID 2 A
A TERROR SIGNAL, SO YOU
UNDERSTAND WHY THEY SAY WHITE
SUPREMACY IS THE NUMBER ONE
THREAD IN THE COUNTRY, BECAUSE
IT IS A PREDOMINANTLY WHITE
COUNTRY AND YOU CAN MAKE A
FORTUNE INVESTIGATING EVERYTHING
EVERYTHING.
A FLAG WAVER, SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, A TRUMP SUPPORTER.
OWNER, A TRUMP SUPPORTER.
APPARENTLY, ANYBODY THAT CAN BE
CONSIDERED WHITES, YOU CAN OPEN
UP AN INVESTIGATION AND GET PAID
FOR THAT.
IT’S A PERVERSE INCENTIVE.
AND THEN THEY GOT RETALIATED
AGAINST BECAUSE THEY TRIED TO
BLOW THE WHISTLE CORRECTLY PAUL
POPPED UP THE CHAIN OF COMMAND
AND SENT THEM TO CALIFORNIA AND
LOCKED ALL THE BELONGINGS IN A
STORAGE UNIT AND ONE FAMILY WAS
LEFT HOMELESS FOR A WEEK.
AND THEY SAID THE FBI WILL CRUSH
YOU IF YOU SPEAK OUT AGAINST
THEM.
THAT’S WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE
SAYING THAT THE FBI NEEDS TO BE
DISMANTLED.
WE WILL BLOW THESE
WHISTLE-BLOWERS AND JIM GORDON
AT 7:00.
>> Dana: I NEVER PROMO YOUR
SHOW, I WILL ALWAYS DO IT.
JUDGE.
>> Judge Jeanine: NOT ONLY DID
THEY BUMP UP THE CASH BONUSES
AND WE REMEMBER WITH THE
VETERANS ADMINISTRATION THAT
THEY PUMPED UP THE NUMBERS.
AND THEY MADE THE FAKE STATS SO
THEY COULD MAKE MORE MONEY.
WHENEVER YOU PUT MONEY WITH THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, YOU ARE
MAKING A MISTAKE BASED ON THE
NUMBERS OF CASES OR BONUSES FOR
ARRESTS, IT IS INCONSISTENT.
IT’S A BAD INTERSECTION, BUT
WORSE THAN THAT WHAT THEY DID
WAS PUMPED UP THE NUMBERS, NOT
JUST FOR THE MONEY, BUT IF THEY
WERE DOING SOMETHING THAT THEY
CALLED A WHITE SUPREMACIST
INVESTIGATION AND THEY HAD FOUR
PEOPLE THEY WERE INTERVIEWING,
IT WAS NOW THE ONE CASE.
IT WAS FOUR CASES, SO THEY COULD
BUMP UP THE STATS AND SAY, YES,
WHITE SUPREMACY IS THE BIGGEST
PROBLEM IN AMERICA TODAY.
AND WHAT THEY DID TO THESE
WHISTLE-BLOWERS IS REALLY --
IT IS FRIGHTENING, BECAUSE BY
THE WAY, THERE IS A
WHISTLE-BLOWER PROTECTION ACT
AND I HAVE NO FAITH AND HAD TO
BE HONEST WITH YOU, BUT WHAT
THEY DID TO THESE PEOPLE, THESE
FBI AGENTS, AND IT IS THE MAIN
FBI AGENTS, THE MIDDLE RUNG OF
THEM THAT ARE DOING A GREAT JOB
THAT LIVE IN THE COUNTRY AND ARE
TAKING CARE TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY FOLLOW ALL OF THE RULES AND
REGULATIONS.
IT IS THE UPPER CORNER OF THE
FBI THAT IS CORRUPT AND HAS BEEN
POLITICIZED AND WEAPONIZE.
AND SO THEY TAKE THESE LITTLE
PEOPLE SO TO SPEAK AND MAKE THEM
HOMELESS.
THEY MADE ONE GUY ACTUALLY MOVE
HIS FAMILY TO ANOTHER TOWN AND
THEN FORCED HIM TO RELOCATE AND
THEN AS SOON AS HE GOT THERE,
THEY PUT THEM ON UNPAID
INDEFINITE SUSPENSION, AND HE IS
HOMELESS.
THIS IS THE FBI AT ITS WORSE.
BUT WE ARE AND HE KNEW THAT.
AND ONE MORE THING, THE
CONGRESSWOMAN I THINK HER NAME
IS STACEY PLASKETT.
SHE TALKS ABOUT HOW THIS IS
THIEF ON THE POLICE ON STEROIDS,
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
WE HAD THE INVESTIGATION WHERE
YOU SET THE FBI WAS BASICALLY
NOT DOING ITS JOB, JIM COMEY WAS
SOMEONE WHO LIED AND THE
AFFIDAVIT WAS UNVERIFIED DOWN 20
ON AND ON AND THEN YOU HAVE THE
DERM REPORT SAYING THAT THE FBI
FAILED TO RAPPEL THE MISSION OF
FIDELITY TO THE LAW AND THIS
WOMAN LABELS THESE PEOPLE AS
PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DEFUND THE
POLICE.
THE REPUBLICANS.
AND FINALLY IT IS SIMPLY TOO
EASY TO SAY THAT IT
WHISTLE-BLOWERS SAYING SOMETHING
THAT IS AGAINST HIS OWN INTEREST
IT’S EASY FOR THEM TO SAY THEY
WERE AN APT OR BAD AT THEIR JOB.
HOW DO YOU FIGHT THE SYSTEM?
HOW DO YOU FIGHT THE INSTITUTION
OF THE FBI?
YOU CAN’T.
SO IT’S AGAINST SOMEONE WHO CAN
BE A WHISTLE-BLOWER.
AND THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
>> Dana: ONE OF THE THINGS
REVEALED TODAY, OR REVEALED TO
ME, I DID NOT KNOW THAT THE
WHISTLE-BLOWER PROTECTIONS FOR
THE FBI EMPLOYEES AND AGENTS IS
DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHICH IS
SOMETHING THAT COULD BE LOOKED
AT BY THE CONGRESS.
HAROLD FORD JR., THE DEMOCRATS
CAME READY TODAY AND HAVE SOME
PRETTY STRONG NUMBERS ON THEIR
SIDE AS WELL.
BEFORE THEY DO, IT’S GOOD TO BE
BACK, A COUPLE OF THINGS, THE
DERM REPORT IS A TROUBLING
THING.
WHEN EVER THE PEOPLE, THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE LOSE CONFIDENCE
IN THE FEDERAL AGENCY,
PARTICULARLY LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCY OR HAVE REASON TO, AND
UNCOVERING A LOT OF THAT IS
SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE
SERIOUSLY AND I HOPE THAT A
COMMITTEE MIGHT TAKE A LOOK IF I
WERE CHAIRMAN GEORGE AND I WOULD
INVITE DIRECTOR RAY WAS PRAISING
THE REPORT SAYING HE WAS TAKING
BIG EFFORTS TO CLEAN UP SOME OF
THE INVESTIGATIVE’S EXCESSES TO
GIVE THEM A SENSE OF WHAT THEY
HAVE DONE AND THEY COULD EXPLODE
EXPLORE THE WHISTLE-BLOWER
PROTECTIONS FOR FBI AGENTS.
THERE IS BEEN POLITICS IN EVERY
AGENCY, THE FBI, EVERY ACRONYM
THERE IS THE IRS, THE R&D
FOREVER, AND PROBABLY A LITTLE
BIAS ALONG THE WAY.
WHISTLE-BLOWER SHOULD BE
PROTECTED IN EVERY AGENCY AND
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS TO BE
DONE AS YOU HAVE TO COOPERATE
THEIR STORIES, YOU DO THAT THEY
SHOULD NOT BE PUNISHED.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WITH THE
TESTIMONY THERE ARE THOSE THAT
BELIEVE THAT THEY HAD BEEN
RETALIATED AGAINST.
IF I WAS CHAIRMAN JORDAN, I
WOULD CALL IN THOSE AND ASK THE
WHISTLE-BLOWERS, WILL YOU SIGN A
DOCUMENT THAT SAYS WE CAN LOOK
AT YOUR EMPLOYEE FILE, BECAUSE
THESE ARE SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS.
AND I DON’T LIKE IT IN ENGAGING
REPUBLICANS SO BAD, I THOUGHT IT
WAS IRRESPONSIBLE OF THE
CHAIRMAN TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT,
BUT IF HE HAS THE EVIDENCE TO
BACK IT UP, YOU SHOULD PUT
FORWARD THE EVIDENCE.
I GET BACK TO CHRISTOPHER WRAY A
LOT MORE CREDIT THAN PERHAPS
SOME NOT AROUND THIS TABLE, BUT
SOME ARE IN THE PRESS, HE DID A
LOT TO CLEAN THIS UP.
AND HE SAYS IT IN HIS OWN
REPORT, I HOPE THE FBI GETS BACK
TO DOING WHAT THEY DO BEST WHICH
IS PROTECTING US AGAINST
DOMESTIC AND FOREIGN CRIMES AND
THREATS AND GET BACK TO THE
GREAT WORK THEY DID IN IDAHO
WHERE THEY WERE ABLE TO HUNT
DOWN THAT GUY WHO KILLED THOSE
FOUR PEOPLE.
>> Dana: THAT WAS ONE OF THE
THINGS I WOULD ASK YOU ABOUT,
TOM AND WHISTLE-BLOWER TESTIMONY
ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT THEY
SAID THEY HAD WAS THAT ALL OF
THE FOCUS ON DOMESTIC TERRORISM
HAS REALLY TAKEN OUR EYE OFF OF
THE BALL FROM FOREIGN ENEMIES
AND TERRORISM.
AND WE ARE BACK TO YOU LIKE A
SEPTEMBER 10TH ATTITUDE.
>> WE HAVE SEEN THEM DOING THESE
RAIDS AND KNOCKING ON DOORS WITH
PRO-LIFE DEMONSTRATORS AND
THINGS LIKE THAT, INVESTIGATING
CATHOLICS AND OTHER ISSUES LIKE
THAT.
IT’S OBVIOUSLY ROTTEN AND I SAID
TO MY FRIEND THAT BOTHERED HIM,
I SAID THEY ARE GOING TO GET
AWAY WITH IT, BECAUSE THEY BROKE
THE LAW LEGALLY.
HE SAID WHAT ARE YOU TALKING
ABOUT?
HOW DO YOU DO THAT?
AND I SAID THEY BROKE IT
LEGALLY, WE HAVE SEEN IT
DRAMATIZE ON TELEVISION SHOWS
LIKE "THE WIRE" WHERE YOU HAVE A
LAWYER WHO IS DOING WORK FOR A
DRUG DEALER AND WE WATCH THE WAY
THAT HE WORKED.
HE USED THE LAW TO HIS ADVANTAGE
TO MAKE THIS DRUG DEALER
LEGITIMATE, BUT HE WAS A
DRUG DEALER.
HE WAS SELLING DRUGS TO
CHILDREN.
THAT’S WHAT THIS LAWYER WAS
DOING, BUT YOU CAN’T GET HIM ON
IT.
THAT’S THE WAY GUYS LIKE
JAMES COMEY AND McCABE
OPERATED.
THEY KNEW THAT THEY WERE ABOVE
THE LAW BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT
THE LAW IS.
I THINK THEY BROKE THE LAW.
I DON’T LIKE THE WORD BIAS.
THEY BROKE THE LAW LEGALLY.
NOW THE WHISTLE-BLOWERS MIGHT BE
ABLE TO UNCOVER SOME THINGS.
I DON’T THINK THAT THEY WILL GET
IT AT THE TOP, BUT SOME MAY BE
ABLE TO ROLL WHEN YOU GET THESE
GUYS WHO ARE AT THE INSIDE
GIVING INFORMATION.
>> IT IS INTERESTING THAT IT
APPARENTLY HAS THE TONGUE.
HE USED TO LOVE THE MEDIA.
FINDING HIM ANYWHERE.
>> CAN I SAY ONE THING, FOR ALL
OF THE COMPLIMENTS THAT
CHRISTOPHER WRAY IS GETTING, WHO
DID HE LET GO?
HE CAME IN RIGHT AFTER
JAMES COMEY, AND WHAT IS HE
DOING OTHER THAN I AM GOING TO