CHARLIE ROSE, THE CBS ANCHOR WHO HAS BEEN ACCUSED
OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT WANTS TO HOST A NEW SHOW WHERE HE HOSTS
SOME OF THE MEN WHO HAVE BEEN TOPPLED BY THE ME TOO
MOVEMENT.
AS YOU KNOW, CHARLIE ROSE HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF SEXUAL
HARASSMENT BY EIGHT WOMEN, GROPING, CAUSE, NUDITY AND
THINGS OF THAT NATURE. ALREADY HE IS ON
HIS COMEBACK TOUR. FORTUNE REPORTED:
SOME OF THE INTERVIEWEES WILL BE LOUIS CK AND MATT LAUER. THERE
HAVE BEEN A FEW ARTICLES ABOUT MATT LAUER, HOW HE HAS JUST ATE
IN HIS MANHATTAN MANSION OR IS HAMPTON'S MANSION AND HE HASN'T
SEEN THE LIGHT OF DAY BUT RECENTLY HE WAS SEEN LUNCHING IN
THE CITY SO HE IS BACK ON THE SCENE WHICH IS DISTURBING.
WHAT YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THIS SHOW IDEA?
YOU KNOW, MY GRANDMOTHER USED TO SAY, LITERALLY MEANS HAS NO
SHAME ON HIS FACE. JUST TO THINK THAT, IT IS OPPORTUNISTIC AND IT
IS REALLY DISGUSTING BECAUSE IT IS JUST LIKE, LET ME SEE IF I
CAN TURN MY RECENT DRAMA INTO A CHECK AND GET WORK MY WAY BACK
INTO THIS. IT JUST SEEMS DISINGENUOUS AND I AM SO GLAD
THAT A WOMAN SHUT IT DOWN.
I AM SO GLAD THAT A WOMAN SAID GET THAT OUT OF HERE, BRO.
IT IS SO INTERESTING THINKING ABOUT THESE MEN WHO HAVE JOINED
DAILY INTERACTION WITH THE CAMERA AND AN AUDIENCE TRYING TO
DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO SEE OR HEAR FROM
THEM ANYMORE AND THINK THAT ALREADY THIS QUICK REDEMPTION
MOMENT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR SO I THINK THEY ARE STILL
LIVING IN THIS REALLY UNSHOWERED OR A BOLD NARCISSISTIC BUBBLE
AND I AM WONDERING WHAT COULD GET TO THEM?
WHAT COULD PENETRATE IT. I ALSO THINK THAT THIS IS AN EXPOSURE OF
THE FAILURE AM A ONE PART OF THE FAILURE OF THE ME TO MOVEMENT
AND THAT IS THAT IT HAS BECOME SO PUNITIVE THAT THERE ISN'T
ROOM FOR HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT TRANSFORMATIVE JUSTICE AND
TRANSFORMATIVE JUSTICE ISN'T JUST ABOUT PUNISHING PEOPLE AND
DISCARDING THEM. IT IS ABOUT HOW CAN WE PUT PEOPLE IN
CONVERSATION AND ENGAGE THEM SO THAT THIS BEHAVIOR DOESN'T
REPEAT ITSELF SO THAT PEOPLE ARE ENCOURAGED BY THIS BEHAVIOR SO
IF YOU THROW PEOPLE OUT, THEIR FIRST SORT OF COUNTER OFFENSE IS
TO GO HARD AGAIN SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT MEANS TO LIVE
WITH THESE FOLKS THAT ARE PRODUCTS OF PATRIARCHY.
MY BIGGEST ISSUE WITH THIS SORT OF COMEBACK TOUR THAT A LOT
OF THESE MEN ARE PLANNING IS ONE, THAT IT IS ESSENTIALLY
CAPITALIZING ON THEIR WRONGDOINGS AND CAPITALIZING
FRANKLY ON THEIR VICTIMS PAIN AND THAT BRINGS ME TO MY SECOND
POINT IN THAT A LOT OF THE WOMEN WHO HAVE COME FORWARD OR WHO
DEALT WITH SOME OF THIS TRAUMA, THEY HAD TO CHANGE CAREER PATHS,
THEY LOST THEIR JOBS, THEY'VE BEEN BLACKBALLED IN INDUSTRY,
EVEN COMING FORWARD NOW DURING THE MEETING MOVEMENTS, THEY HAVE
JUST BEEN RELEGATED TO THE SIDELINES. THEY DON'T GET A
COMEBACK TOUR. THEY DON'T HAVE A CHANCE IN THE LIGHT. WE'RE
NOT TALKING TO THOSE WOMEN GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITIES.
AGAIN, WE'RE GIVING THEM IN THE UPPER TRINITY'S AND I AGREE WITH
YOU THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO EDUCATE, RIGHT?
TO CREATE A SHIFTING CULTURE, BUT HAVING A SHOW THAT
LITERALLY IS WHITE MEN TALKING ABOUT SEXUAL HARASSMENT HOW
THEY DID A I DON'T THINK IS THE WAY TO GO.
I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP WHITE MEN BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO SAY
QUICKLY AS I DID AN INTERVIEW FOR THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER ABOUT
LOUIS CK AND I WAS BEING ASKED ABOUT SEXUAL HARASSMENT, WHAT
THEY DID TWO ARTICLES AND ONE WAS ABOUT LUCY CASE COME BACK IN
A BUNCH OF WOMEN WROTE THESE ARTICLES ATTACKING ME BECAUSE I
SAID, I NEVER SAID IF I THINK LOUIS CK SHOULD COME BACK OR NOT
BUT I SAID IF HE DOES COME BACK HE SHOULD USE THAT AS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE WHO THINK LIKE HIM
BECAUSE I CAN TALK TO THOSE PEOPLE TELL I AM BLUE IN THE
FACE AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO ME BUT I WAS NOT
ENDORSING A COMEBACK BECAUSE I DID NOT KNOW THERE WERE OTHER
MEN THAT WERE BEING INTERVIEWED. THEY SAW ME CONFORM PERFORM,
THEY ASKED ME SOME QUESTIONS, THEY PUT ME IN THIS ARTICLE AND
ALL THESE WOMEN WROTE THESE ARTICLES WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS
WE ALSO, YOU JUST SET IT, A WHITE MEN, THE INTERSECTIONS
ABOUT THE SEXUAL HARASSMENT IN THE ME TO MOVEMENT THAT IS FOR
ME WHO WORKS IN HOLLYWOOD, HE FEELS VERY ELITIST SOMETIMES AND
IT FEELS LIKE THESE HOLLYWOOD WHITE WOMEN WHO HAVE
OPPORTUNITIES TO GO OUT AND LEAD THE CHARGE WITH PEOPLE LIKE
MYSELF AND OTHER WOMEN OF COLOR, WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS
BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, WE ARE NOT AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO
OUT AND SAY HARVEY WEINSTEIN DID THAT TO ME BECAUSE LOOK WHAT
HAPPENED WHEN LUPITA SAID IT. HE DENIED AND WHEN THE GIRL WITH
LENA DUNHAM'S COMPANY SAID THAT SHE WAS RAPED, THE TWO WOMEN
STOOD BY THE GUY SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS THIS IS PROBLEMATIC.
I DO AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING WHEN DAVE'S CHAPELLE SAID
A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME FOR HIM BECAUSE HE IS A MAN AND THERE IS
NO WOMAN OF EQUAL POWER IN COMEDY TO COUNTER WHAT DAVE
CHAPELLE WAS SAYING WHAT I DO AGREE WITH THE FACT THAT AT SOME
POINT, WE HAVE TO HAVE DIALOGUE. I EDUCATE MY SON JUST AS MUCH
AS MY DAUGHTER ABOUT HOW YOU TREAT HUMAN BEINGS AND I THINK
THAT WE CANNOT JUST DO THE WITCHHUNT THING.
OF COURSE NOT. THEY ALSO HAVE USED THIS COMMENT OF THE
WITCHHUNT COMING AFTER THEM WHICH IS SO IRONIC GIVEN THE
FACT THAT THE WITCHHUNT WAS DIRECTLY TARGETING WOMEN. AND
LITERALLY TO DISEMPOWER THEM AND TO DISENFRANCHISE THEM BUT I DO
WANT TO SAY AND CLARIFY, WHAT I MEAN ABOUT TRANSFORMATIVE
JUSTICE IS NO, I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU IN THIS MOMENT
WHERE YOU'RE BEING EMPOWERED TO CAPITALIZED AS YOU
SAID TO PROFIT OFF YOUR PERSECUTION OF WOMEN. WHAT I
WOULD PREFER AND I WOULD OFFER THE STRATEGY THAT I KNOW SOME
MEN ARE COMING TOGETHER AND CREATING AFFINITY GROUPS TO TALK
ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE IN THIS ENVIRONMENT AND HOW THE
PRESSURES OF BEING RAISED AROUND SOCIETAL STANDARDS OF WHAT IT
MEANS TO BE A MAN.
THAT DIALOGUE ISN'T ACTIVELY BEING HAD AND I THINK WHEN
THAT STARTS TO OPEN THINGS UP THEN YOU CAN GET TO THE
NITTY-GRITTY OF YOU KNOW WHAT?
THAT WAS MESSED UP. IT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO OCCUR.
I THINK THAT IS A REALLY GOOD POINT. ALL RIGHT GUYS, WE ARE
GOING TO TAKE A BREAK AND WHEN WE COME BACK WE'RE GOING TO TALK
ABOUT KANYE WEST AND A BAR WHO HAS BEEN SERVED JUSTICE AFTER
THEY KICKED OUT A GUY WEARING A MAGA HAT. STAY TUNED.
ALL RIGHT, WE ARE BACK. HANNAH, AIDA, AND MAYTHA. I'M GOING TO
READ SOME OF YOUR TWEETS RIGHT NOW. "BROKAW'S SMEAR ATTEMPT
HAS
CONVINCED ME THAT HE DID IT. " YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IS A GOOD
POINT.