>> SHOULD PRESIDENT BIDEN RUN
AGAIN IN 2024?
>> TOO EARLY TO SAY.
DOESN’T SERVE THE PURPOSE OF THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO DEAL WITH
THAT UNTIL AFTER THE MIDTERMS.
>> MS. MALONEY.
>> I DON’T BELIEVE HE’S RUNNING
FOR RE-ELECTION.
>> I’M FOCUSED ON WINNING THE
MAJORITY RIGHT NOW AND
PRESERVING THE MAJORITY THIS
YEAR IN 2022, SO WE’LL CROSS
THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET TO IT.
>> I’M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE
2022 ELECTION AND 2024.
I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THOSE
ELECTIONS, AND I’M NOT GOING TO
TALK ABOUT THEM.
>> I’M WORKING ON MY OWN
ELECTION, AND THAT’S ALL I’M
FOCUSED ON RIGHT NOW.
MARIA: YES, IT IS THE QUESTION
THAT IS TYING DEMOCRATS IN KNOTS
WHEN CONFRONTED WITH THE REALITY
OF SUPPORTING ONE OF THE LOWEST
POLLING PRESIDENTS EVER FOR A
SECOND TERM IN 2024.
MY NEXT GUEST IS THE AUTHOR OF A
NEW BOOK, "THE PRICE OF
PRINCIPLE: WHY INTEGRITY IS
WORTH THE CONSEQUENCES."
HARVARD LAW PROFESSOR ALAN
DERSHOWITZ JOINING US RIGHT NOW.
IT’S GOOD TO SEE YOU, CONGRATS
ON THE LATEST BOOK.
>> THANK YOU.
MARIA: FIRST, ASSESS WHAT YOU
JUST HEARD.
OBVIOUSLY, PRESIDENT BIDEN’S
APPROVALS AND HIS SUPPORT AMONG
HIS OWN PARTY IS ERODING.
>> WELL, HE HAS TO MAKE A
DECISION NOW.
HE HAS TO DECIDE HE’S GOING TO
RUN OR BET OUT AND MAKE ROOM FOR
OTHER PEOPLE.
IF HE DOESN’T RUN, THE FIELD IS
VERY, VERY WIDE.
THERE’S NO OBVIOUS CANDIDATE.
TRUMP WINS, PROBABLY BIDEN CAN
WIN HIM AGAIN.
BUT IF DeSANTIS WERE TO RUN,
PROBABLY BIDEN COULDN’T BEAT
HIM.
SO I THINK DEMOCRATS HAVE TO
MAKE SURE THE SAME MISTAKE THAT
RUTH BADER GINSBURG MADE -- NOT
RETIRING ON TIME AND ALLOWING
HER PLACE TO BE FILLED BY A
CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN -- THAT
MISTAKE CAN’T BE MADE.
PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS BEEN THE
PRESIDENT FORD OF MODERN DAY.
HE’S CALM THINGS DOWN, HE’S
STABILIZE THINGS.
PERHAPS THE BEST THING FOR THE
DEMOCRATS WOULD BE IF BIDEN WAS
A ONE-TERM PRESIDENT.
MARIA: WELL, LEAPT ME AND YOU --
LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT ALL OLD --
ALL OF THESE APPROVAL RATINGS.
ING EVEN THOUGH HER PUSHING
THROUGH THIS SPENDING BILL THIS
MORNING IN WASHINGTON, WHAT DOES
HE NEED TO DO TO REGAIN SUPPORT,
OR IS IT AT THIS POINT OVER?
HE NEEDS TO STEP ASIDE?
>> WELL, DONE GREAT THINGS IN
UKRAINE, I THINK HE HAS DONE
GOOD THINGS ON DOMESTIC POLICY,
GOTTEN SOME VERY GOOD THINGS
PASSED.
HE IS NOT AN EXCITING, DYNAMIC
CANDIDATE WHO’S GOING TO GET
THINGS DONE.
HE IS THE CANDIDATE WHO RESTORES
NORMALITY.
AND IF TRUMP IS GOING TO RUN, I
THINK THAT THAT EVEN A LOW
RANKING CANDIDATE WITH,
ESSENTIALLY, MODERATE VIEWS, HE
WON’T WIN, BUT TRUMP WILL LOSE.
SO NOBODY’S GOING TO WIN NEXT
ELECTION IF IT’S TRUMP VERSUS
BIDEN.
IT WILL BE WHO HAS MOST
NEGATIVES AND WHO LOSES
ELECTION.
NOBODY’S GOING TO WIN THAT
ELECTION.
MARIA: WELL, I WANT DO YOU ABOUT
THAT BECAUSE YOU SUPPORTED
TRUMP, AND YOU WERE TRASHED FOR
IT IN THE PUBLIC.
YOU WROTE A BOOK ABOUT
INTEGRITY.
WE’LL GET -- SLIP IN A SHORT
BREAK AND GET BACK TO THAT,
TALKING ABOUT INTEGRITY AND WHAT
IS GOING ON IN THE TWO SYSTEMS
OF JUSTICE AT TODAY’S DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE.
MARIA: WELCOME BACK.
I AM BACK WITH ALAN DERSHOWITZ.
ALAN, I’VE GOT TO GET BACK TO
SOMETHING YOU JUST SAID BECAUSE
YOU SAID JOE BIDEN WAS MODERATE,
YOU SAID HE’S PASSED SOME GOOD
THINGS, YOU SAID HE DID A GOOD
JOB IN UKRAINE.
I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE TALKING
ABOUT.
THIS IS NOT A MODERATE
PRESIDENT, OKAY?
WE HAVE ANOTHER SPENDING BILL
THAT THEY’RE NEGOTIATING RIGHT
NOW WHICH WILL LIKELY STOKE
INFLATION, AND ON UKRAINE HE
OFFERED ZELENSKYY A FLIGHT OUT
OF THERE, YOU KNOW, ON WEEK ONE
SO THAT RUSSIA WOULD JUST TAKE
OVER, SO I DON’T KNOW WHAT
YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF
JOE BIDEN BEING MODERATE, ALAN.
>> COMPARED TO WHO?
I MEAN, COMPARED TO PRESIDENT
TRUMP, WHO I DID NOT VOTE FOR.
I DEFENDED HIM AGAINST AN
UNCONSTITUTIONAL IMPEACHMENT,
BUT I DIDN’T VOTE FOR HIM.
COMPARED TO PRESIDENT TRUMP,
PRESIDENT, CURRENT PRESIDENT,
BIDEN, IS A MODERATE.
SO IS HIS ATTORNEY GENERAL --
MARIA: NO, HE’S NOT A MODERATE.
HE’S NOT A MODERATE.
IT’S JUST NOT TRUE, AND I KNOW
THAT’S THE LINE THE DEMOCRATS
HAVE BEEN TRYING TO SELL US
SINCE DAY ONE DURING THE
CAMPAIGN.
BUT HIS ACTIONS AND HIS POLICIES
ARE INDICATIVE THAT HE’S NOT A
MODERATE.
BUT LET’S MOVE ON BECAUSE YOU
WROTE A BOOK ABOUT INTEGRITY,
AND THIS MORNING WE’RE TALKING
ALL ABOUT INTEGRITY AND TWO
SYSTEMS OF JUSTICE.
NOT ONLY IS HE NOT A MODERATE,
BUT HIS SON HAS BEEN A SELLING
INFLUENCE.
HUNTER BIDEN AND THE
INVESTIGATION IS CONTINUING
THERE.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SAY AND WHY
DID YOU WRITE THIS BOOK?
AND WHAT ABOUT THIS HUNTER BIDEN
INVESTIGATION, ALAN?
>> WELL, IT SHOULD GO FORWARD.
THIS IS MY 50TH BOOK.
I’M PROUD OF THE FACT THAT I’VE
WRITTEN 50 BOOKS IN MY CAREER.
THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT BOOK
I’VE WRITTEN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
I’M A NEUTRAL, PRINCIPLED
PERSON.
I DEFENDED PRESIDENT TRUMP, I
VOTED FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN.
AND I AM BEING ATTACKED BY BOTH
SIDES BECAUSE PRINCIPLE DOESN’T
EXIST TODAY IN AMERICA.
EVERYTHING IS PARTISANSHIP.
PLEASURE AND SO I’M GOING TO
CONTINUE TO LIVE A PRINCIPLED
LIFE EVEN IF THE LIBRARY IN
MASSACHUSETTS WON’T ALLOW ME TO
SPEAK, EVEN IF THE JEWISH
DEMOCRATIC ASSOCIATION WON’T
INVITE ME TO ITS EVENTS.
I’M GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE
PRINCIPLED, CONTINUE TO SAY WHAT
I WANT, I’M GOING TO CONTINUE TO
ASSESS PRESIDENT BIDEN FAIRLY
AND NOT IN A PARTISAN WAY AS I
WOULD WITH A REPUBLICAN
CANDIDATE.
THAT’S NOT SOMETHING IN AMERICA
TODAY THAT’S HIGHLY DESIRED,
WHICH IS WHY I WROTE MY BOOK,
"THE PRICE OF PRINCIPLE."
I’M PAYING THE PRICE.