>> THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION’S IMMIGRATION RAIDS ARE DRIVING A
SURGE IN THE NUMBER OF MIGRANTS
BEING HELD IN THE SOUTHERN
UNITED STATES.
UNITED STATES. A NEW FIGURE HAS SHOWN THEY’VE
QUADRUPLED.
QUADRUPLED. MORGAN RADFORD HAS NEW REPORTING
HOW DIFFERENT STATES ARE TURNING
TO PRIVATE COMPANIES AND NEW
FACILITIES TO MANAGE THE INFLUX.
>> Reporter: THIS IS ADAM’S
COUNTY CORRECTIONAL CENTER IN
MISS MS. A PRIVATE PRISON NOW
CONTRACTED TO IMMIGRATION AND
CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT.
CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT. ONE OF MORE THAN A DOZEN SUCH
FACILITIES IN LOUISIANA AND
MISSISSIPPI.
MISSISSIPPI. NOW, HOLDING MORE THAN 8,000
I.C.E. DETAINEES.
I.C.E. DETAINEES. ACCORDING TO NEW DATA SHARED BY
I.C.E. WITH NBC NEWS.
THAT NUMBER HAS ALMOST QUAUD
QUADRUPLED IN JUST OVER A YEAR.
MAKING IT THE LARGEST POPULATION
OF I.C.E. DETAINEES NOW OUTSIDE
OF TEXAS.
OF TEXAS. >> THIS IS A FIGHT THE
ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO HAVE.
TOP OFFICIALS AS YOU MAY HAVE
HEARD CLAIMING THE STATUE OF
LIBERTY POEM SHOULD BE REWRITTEN
AND IT ONLY REFERRED TO
EUROPEANS.
EUROPEANS. 13 STATES NOW SUING TRUMP OVER
THIS NEW RULE TARGETING
IMMIGRATION BY POORER PEOPLE AND
THOSE CAN MATTER.
TRUMP HAS SEEN SEVERAL
IMMIGRATION PLANS NARROWED OR
BLOCKED IN THE COURTS FROM THE
FIRST TRAVEL BAN TO THIS NEW
REBUKE TODAY.
REBUKE TODAY. A FEDERAL COURT RULING BASICS
LIKE SOAP AND SLEEP ARE
NECESSARY FORPLY GRANS’ SAFETY
AND THAT TRUMP OFFICIALS WERE
WRONG TO CLAIM OTHERWISE.
I’M JOINED BY PALO RAMOS, HOST
OF ADVICE’S LATIN X AND VICTORIA
DEFRANCESCO SOTO, PROPOSER AT
THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS.
PAOLO, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS KEY
IN THE NEW RECALL RULINGS AND
EXPLODING POPULATION?
EXPLODING POPULATION? >> MORE THAN ANYTHING I THINK
THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT
THIS IS HAPPENING CONSTANTLY.
WHAT WE SAW TODAY IN LOUISIANA,
WHAT WE’RE SEEING IN MISSISSIPPI
IS HAPPENING EVERYWHERE.
THIS IS HAPPENING IN OUR BACK
YARDS.
YARDS. IT’S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND
AFTER THIS STORY, THE
HUMANITARIAN CRISIS IS NO LONGER
JUST A U.S./MEXICO BORDER
CRISIS, NO LONGER JUST A TEXAS
OR ARIZONA CRISIS.
THIS IS HAPPENING EVERYWHERE.
EVERY SINGLE STATE HAS AT LEAST
TWO FACILITIES WHERE I.C.E. IS
DETAINING IMMIGRANTS.
DETAINING IMMIGRANTS. THIS ISN’T JUST A THEM CRISIS.
THIS IS OUR CRISIS.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO
INTERNALIZE AS WE CONTINUE TO
REPORT ON THESE STORIES.
>> PROFESSOR?
>> PROFESSOR? >> WA WHAT WE’RE SEEING IN THE
SOUTH IS EXPLOSION OF DETENTION
FORCES GIVING A LITTLE BIT OF A
BACKGROUND HERE, ARI, THE SOUTH
HAS SEEN THE FASTEST POPULATION
GROWTH OF LATINOS IN THE LAST
DECADE GROWING OVER 33%.
WHAT WE’RE SEEING IS THE PUBLIC
IN THE SOUTH REACTING VERY
NEGATIVELY TO IT.
THIS IS WHERE WE SEE SOME OF THE
MOST STRIDENT ANTI-IMMIGRANT
SENTIMENT AND WE SEE THE FOLLOW
THROUGH OF THESE CENTERS.
AND WHAT IS PARTICULARLY
DANGEROUS AND WHAT WORRIES ME IS
THAT EVEN THOUGH WE SEE ALMOST
AS MANY DETENTION FACILITIES,
PRIVATE DETENTION FACILITIES AS
WE DO IN TEXAS, AT LEAST IN
TEXAS, WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS
THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR
DECADES THAT ARE ADVOCATING FOR
THE RIGHTS OF IMMIGRANTS FOR
HUMAN RIGHTS THAT HAVE
ESTABLISHED CONTACTS FROM THE
GRASSROOTS LEADERSHIP NETWORK
AND THAT CAN HELP FOLKS.
NEED IS GREAT BUT WE AT LEAST
HAVE THE RESOURCES.
WHERE IN YOUR MYSELF MYSELVES
AND LOUISIANA,S, YOU DON’T HAVE
THAT.
THAT. IT IS SCARY THESE FOLKS ARE IN
ESSENTIALLY BLACK HOLES IN THESE
PLACES IN THE DEEP SOUTH AND WE
NEED TO FIGURE HOW DO WE GET TO
THESE FOLKS AND GIVE THEM THE
HUMAN RIGHTS PROTECTIONS THEY
NEED AND LEGALLY ENTITLED TO.
>> PAOLO, TAKE A LISTEN TO
MORGAN RADFORD TALKING TO SOME
OF THESE FOLKS.
WE’RE HEARING FROM SOME OF THEM
AS YOU HAVE THESE LARGER
DISCUSSIONS WHAT DOES IT EVEN
MEAN.
MEAN. TAKE A LOOK.
>> Translator: YOU CAME LOOKING
FOR LIBERTY BECAUSE SUPPOSEDLY
THIS IS THE COUNTRY OF FREEDOM.
IF YOU HAVE A MESSAGE FOR YOUR
BROTHER, WHAT WOULD IT BE?
>> YOU’RE FIGHTING FOR HIM.
AND YOU’RE GOING TO KEEP
FIGHTING FOR HIM UNTIL HE’S ABLE
TO STAY HERE.
>> SO WHAT WE JUST SAW IS
PERFECT BECAUSE IT EXPOSES THE
HYPOCRISY THAT WE’RE LIVING.
WHY?
WHY? BECAUSE SHE’S TALKING ABOUT A
CUBAN DOCTOR WHO CAME TO THIS
COUNTRY SEEKING AN SEE LUM AND
INSTEAD OF BEING IN THIS
COUNTRY, HAS SPENT ALMOST TEN
MONTHS IN A DETENTION FACILITY.
ON PAPER THAT THAT MAN THAT
WOMAN DESCRIBED IS THE PERFECT
IMMIGRANT THAT DONALD TRUMP
WANTS.
WANTS. WHY?
WHY? BECAUSE HE’S A DOCTOR.
HE’S SELF-SUFFICIENT.
HE’S SELF-SUFFICIENT. HE’S A PROMINENT FIGURE ON
PAPER.
PAPER. IN REALITY, HE’S A BLACK MAN.
HE’S AN AFRO CUBAN.
THAT IS WHY UNDER THIS
ADMINISTRATION UNDER OUR WATCH
HE IS CURRENTLY IN A BLACK HOLE
COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN AND CAN NO
LONGER BE A DOCTOR.
SO THAT IS WHY THAT IMAGE WAS SO
IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT IS THE
PERFECT HYPOCRISY OF WHAT WE’RE
SEEING RIGHT NOW, THAT UNLESS
YOU ARE WHITE, THEY DON’T CARE
BUT YOU.
BUT YOU. >> THERE ARE SO MANY VICTORIA,
SO MANY CLUES, PROOFS, EVIDENCE
OF WHAT THAT IS.
AND IT WASN’T TILL THIS WEEK HAW
COULD SAY AT LEAST FORMALLY ON
PAPER THAT THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION WAS ALSO DOING
ECONOMIC DISCRIMINATION.
ECONOMIC DISCRIMINATION. I MEAN, COULD YOU ALLEGE IT.
BUT NOW YOU HAVE THIS RULE
THAT’S GOING TO BE DEBATED IN
THE COURTS AND READING FROM ONE
OF THE NEW LAWSUITS THAT SAYS
IT’S A TOTALLY RADICAL OVERHAUL
AND TRANSFORMS A SYSTEM SUPPOSED
TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC MOBILITY
INTO ONE THAT ADVANTAGES
IMMIGRANTS WITH WEALTH.
HOW MUCH OF A SHIFT IS THAT AND
DO YOU THINK IT WILL SURVIVE
COURT CHALLENGE?
COURT CHALLENGE? >> IT IS A HUGE SHIFT, ARI.
I’M NOT A LEGAL SCHOLAR.
IL DEFER TO MY COLLEAGUES OVER
AT THE LAW SCHOOL FOR THAT.
WE DO KNOW THAT THE BUREAUCRATIC
ADMINISTRATIVE RULE WAS PUT INTO
PLACE ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF
AGO.
AGO. THERE WAS THE REVIEW SECTION,
THE COMMENT SECTION.
THEY DID FOLLOW THE STEPS THAT
ARE NECESSARY FOR THESE RULE
CHANGES.
CHANGES. WE’LL SEE IF IT HOLDS UP IN
COURT.
COURT. BUT IN TERMS OF POLITICAL
STRATEGY, THIS WAS MACHIAVELLIAN
GENIUS.
GENIUS. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS
BEEN WANTING TO DO AWAY WITH
FAMILY-BASED IMMIGRATION.
FAMILY-BASED IMMIGRATION. THEY CAN’T GET IT DONE THROUGH
CONGRESS.
CONGRESS. THEY CAN’T GET IT DONE REALLY
THROUGH EXECUTIVE ORDER BUT THEY
CAN HAD CHIP AWAY AT
FAMILY-BASED IMMIGRATION WITH
THESE RULE CHANGES.
SO THAT IS GOING TO HAVE A
MASSIVE EFFECT.
MASSIVE EFFECT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT HURTS
US AS A COUNTRY, NOT JUST HURTS
US WHAT THE STATUE OF LIBERTY
SAYS.
SAYS. WE NEED THESE WORKERS.
WE HAVE A DECLINING BIRTH RATE
FOR AMERICAN WHITES.
WHO IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF US
AND TAKE CARE AND PAY INTO