JOE BIDEN'S SHOULDER AT THE
MOMENT.
LET'S BRING IN LARA TRUMP AND
THEN JOHN DELANEY.
TRUMP 2020 SENIOR ADVISOR, GOOD
TO HAVE YOU HERE.
I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE POLLS BUT
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM NOW, IT'S
A TIGHT RACE BETWEEN TRUMP AND
JOE BIDEN AND TRUMP AND
ELIZABETH WARREN.
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS AHEAD BY 1%
IN TWO POLES, FOX AND CNN.
WOULD YOU RATHER ONE AGAINST?
>> I'VE ALWAYS SAID I DON'T
THINK IT MATTERS WHO THIS
PRESIDENT RUNS AGAINST BECAUSE
PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY ARE
FOCUSED ON HOW MUCH BETTER THEIR
LIFE IS UNDER THIS PRESIDENT
VERSUS THE SOCIALIST IDEAS THAT
MANY OF THESE CANDIDATES ARE
PROPOSING ON THE LEFT.
EITHER ONE OF THEM WE ARE VERY
HAPPY TO RUN AGAINST.
I THINK THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN
VERY CLEAR HE'S BEEN HAPPY TO
RUN AGAINST JOE BIDEN, BUT IF IT
HAPPENS TO BE ELIZABETH WARREN
WE FEEL COMFORTABLE THERE.
>> Martha: DAVID AXELROD, HE
HAS BEEN VERY RETICENT WHEN IT
COMES TO JOE BIDEN, VERY
CAUTIOUS ABOUT SUPPORTING HIM.
PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS NOT COME
OUT, BUT HE SEEMS TO BE A FAN OF
ELIZABETH WARREN.
HE SAYS SHE HAS A SUPER
ORGANIZATION ENTER CAMPAIGN IS
HOT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THE
REST OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS
LOOKING AT HER, DO YOU FEEL LIKE
THEY ARE HONING IN ON HER RIGHT
NOW?
>> YEAH, PERHAPS THAT IS THE
WEIGHT IS GOING TO GO.
WE HAVE SO FAR TO GO UNTIL THEN.
>> Martha: ANYTHING CAN
HAPPEN.
>> WE KNOW HOW TREACHEROUS
CAMPAIGN SEASONS CAN BE,
ESPECIALLY THE PRIMARIES, BUT IT
WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE
RISING NUMBER ONE TARGET.
UP UNTIL NOW IT HAS BEEN
JOE BIDEN AND HE HASN'T DONE
HIMSELF ANY FAVORS.
>> Martha: I WANT TO SHOW YOU
THIS EXCHANGE WITH MY NEXT GUEST
WHO IS JOHN DELANEY, A
DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE AND ITS
REFLECTIVE OF SOMETHING A LOT OF
REPORTERS HAVE BEEN PUSHING IN
TERMS OF THE NARRATIVE OF WHITE
SUPREMACY.
WATCH THIS EXCHANGE.
>> THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING.
I'M NOT SAYING SEMANTICS, AND
BEING VERY DIRECT.
I SAID IT!
>> NO YOU DIDN'T!
>> HE SUPPORTS WHITE
SUPREMACIST.
WHAT ELSE CAN YOU CONCLUDE?
>> Martha: >> IT IS REA
>> Martha: >> IT IS REL
>> Martha: >> IT IS REY
>> Martha: >> IT IS RES
>> Martha: >> IT IS RED
>> Martha: >> IT IS RET
>> Martha: >> IT IS REO
>> Martha: >> IT IS RES
>> Martha: >> IT IS REE
>> Martha: >> IT IS RET
>> Martha: >> IT IS REI
>> Martha: >> IT IS RES
IS WHERE WE ARE IN OUR COUNTRY,
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES THE
PRESIDENT HAS TO DENOUNCE WHITE
SUPREMACY AND SAY HE DOES NOT
AGREE WITH IT AND HE DOESN'T
STAND WITH ANY KIND OF RACISM
WHICH THIS PRESIDENT HAS DONE IT
NUMEROUS TIMES, EVEN AFTER THE
CHARLOTTESVILLE COMMENTS THAT
THEY CONTINUE TO CRITICIZE HIM
FOR.
THEY ALWAYS CUT THE CLIP OUT
WHERE HE DENOUNCES THAT BUT YOU
NEVER HEAR THAT.
OF COURSE THIS PRESIDENT DOES
NOT SUPPORT WHITE SUPREMACY,
THAT IS A RIDICULOUS TALKING
POINT.
>> Martha: I HEAR YOU.
WE HAVE REPORTED THAT HE HAS
SAID THAT, FOR A NUMBER OF
REASONS, POLITICALLY DEMOCRATS
THINK IT'S ADVANTAGEOUS TO STOKE
THE FIRE AND ANOTHER IS THAT FOR
SOME PEOPLE HE HAS AN
ARTICULATED IT IN A WAY THAT
REALLY HITS HOME AND SORT OF
CLEARS THE AIR OF IT AND THEY
RELATE TO THE SIZE OF WAY.
OTHERWISE I DON'T THINK IT WOULD
STILL BE FLOATING AROUND.
>> IT CONTINUES TO BE PUSHED BY
THE LEFT.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS
PRESIDENT HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO IN
TWO YEARS IT IS SO HARD TO FIGHT
AGAINST THAT.
WHEN YOU HAVE THE BEST ECONOMY
THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN DECADES,
ALMOST EVER IN THIS COUNTRY.
WHEN THINGS ARE WORKING FOR
PEOPLE THEY GO BACK TO WORK AND
THEY KNOW THEY HAVE SOMEBODY
LOOKING OUT FOR THEM.
THEY WANT OPEN BORDERS, THAT IS
HARD FOR THEM TO FIGHT AGAIN SO
WHAT DO YOU DO?
YOU CALL SOMEONE A RACIST OR
WHITE SUPREMACIST.
>> Martha: I HEAR YOU.
THE DAYTON KILLER WAS DETERMINED
TODAY, HE SHOT 26 PEOPLE AND 32
SECONDS WITH AN ASSAULT RIFLE.
THERE IS AN OCCASION THE
PRESIDENT WANTS TO DO SOMETHING
ON GUNS.
IT IS A BAN ON ASSAULT RIFLES
AND THE CONVERSATION?
IS IT SOMETHING YOU GUYS TALK
ABOUT IN TERMS OF A CAMPAIGN?
WOULD HE BE OPEN?
26 PEOPLE AND 32 SECONDS.
>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
STATISTICS IN THIS COUNTRY,
RIFLES DO NOT KILL MORE PEOPLE
THAN PISTOLS.
PISTOLS KILLED FAR MORE PEOPLE.
>> Martha: EXTREMELY QUICKLY.
>> THAT IS RIGHT, BUT THIS IS
SOMETHING THE WHITE HOUSE IS
WORKING ON AND IT'S NOT
SOMETHING IN THE CAMPAIGN WE
DISCUSSED ON A DAILY BASIS BUT
THIS PRESIDENT HAS BEEN VERY
CLEAR.
WE CONTINUE TO SEE HORRIFIC MASS
SHOOTINGS AND UNFORTUNATELY IT'S
BEEN HAPPENING FOR DECADES.
>> Martha: THERE ARE A LOT
MORE NOW THAN THERE USED TO BE.
>> THERE WERE A LOT UNDER THE
OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.
>> THE NUMBERS ARE HIGHER.
HE WANTS TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR
THAT HE TAKES THIS SERIOUSLY AND
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
>> Martha: THANK YOU.
ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU.