IGNATIUS.
AND HOST OF KASIE DC ON MSNBC
KASIE HUNT.
AND WE HAVE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT,
EVERYBODY, 56 DAYS UNTIL THE
GENERAL ELECTION.
21 DAYS UNTIL THE FIRST DEBATE.
AND EARLY VOTING UNDER WAY IN A
NUMBER OF STATES.
A NEW NATIONAL POLL FROM CBS
NEWS YOUGOV SHOWING JOE BIDEN
WITH A DOUBLE DIGIT LEAD OVER
PRESIDENT TRUMP, 52 TO 42%.
A LOOK AT WISCONSIN NOW, THE
MORNING CONSULT POLL OF LIKELY
VOTERS THERE SHOWS JOE BIDEN UP
A EIGHT POINTS OVER PRESIDENT
TRUMP, 51 TO 43%.
THE LATEST RASMUSSEN POLLS SHOWS
THE SAME NUMBERS IN THAT STATE.
AND CBS HAS JOE BIDEN UP IN
WISCONSIN 50 TO 44%.
THAT SIX POINT LEAD WAS THE SAME
AS PRIOR TO THE UNREST IN
KENOSHA.
AND MORE VOTERS ARE SIDING WITH
JOE BIDEN WHEN IT COMES TO
PROTESTS.
45% OF WISCONSIN VOTERS APPROVE
OF THE PRESIDENT’S HANDLING OF
THE UNREST.
55% DISAPPROVE.
51% APPROVE OF JOE BIDEN’S
HANDLING OF THE PROTESTS, 45
DISAPPROVE.
WHEN ASKED WHICH CANDIDATE MAKES
THEM FEEL MORE SAFE, 45% SAID
JOE BIDEN, 43% SAID PRESIDENT
TRUMP.
A STATISTICAL TIE.
AND NOW, 44% APPROVE OF TRUMP’S
HANDLING OF THE NATIONWIDE
PROTESTS, 56% DO NOT.
WHEREAS 51% APPROVE OF JOE
BIDEN’S HANDLING OF THE
PROTESTS.
48% DISAPPROVE.
AND IN THE LATEST ABC NEWS IPSOS
POLL, 59% THINK BIDEN WOULD DO A
BETTER JOB HANDLING THE
NATIONWIDE PROTESTS.
39% THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP WOULD.
59% ALSO SAY BIDEN WOULD DO A
BETTER JOB REDUCING VIOLENCE IN
THE COUNTRY.
SO A LOT OF DIFFERENT POLLS TO
LOOK AT NATIONALLY AND ALSO
THOSE WISCONSIN NUMBERS, JOE.
>> THE WISCONSIN NUMBERS
OBVIOUSLY SO MANY PEOPLE LOOKING
AT WISCONSIN BECAUSE THE -- TO
PARAPHRASE THE LATE GREAT TIM
RUSSERT, IF 2000 WAS ABOUT
FLORIDA, FLORIDA, THEN MANY
BELIEVE 2020 IS ABOUT WISCONSIN,
WISCONSIN, WISCONSIN.
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE ALL OF DONALD
TRUMP’S EFFORTS TO STIR UP
RACIAL ANIMUS IN WISCONSIN, TO
RUN AN US VERSUS THEM CAMPAIGN
IN WISCONSIN TO SOMEHOW GET
CLOSER TO JOE BIDEN IN WISCONSIN
HAVE FAILED.
HE’S DOWN, AS WE SEE, TEN
NATIONALLY.
IT HASN’T MOVED THE METER
NATIONALLY BUT IN WISCONSIN THE
LAST TWO POLLS THAT CAME OUT
YESTERDAY HAVE HIM DOWN 8
POINTS.
I WONDER IF WE FILE THIS UNDER
ANOTHER FAILED EXPERIMENT BY
THIS WHITE HOUSE TO PREACH A
RACIST BRAND OF LAW AND ORDER
THAT HAS FALLEN ON DEAF EARS.
>> YEAH, JOE, YOU KNOW, I WAS IN
WISCONSIN ALL LAST WEEK.
SO I FEEL LIKE IN ADDITION TO
SEEING THE DATA THAT’S BEEN
COMING IN THAT STATE EVER SINCE
THE SITUATION UNFOLDED IN
KENOSHA ON THE INITIAL SHOOTING
OF JACOB BLAKE AND THEN KYLE
RITTENHOUSE AFTERWARDS, I FEEL
LIKE I’M TUNED IN ON THIS STORY
AND I WAS THERE LAST WEEK WHEN
TRUMP WAS THERE AND BIDEN WAS
THERE AND TALKING TO A LOT OF
PEOPLE.
I HAVEN’T MET ANYBODY WHO KNOWS
ANYTHING ABOUT POLITICS IN
WYOMING WHO THINKS JOE BIDEN IS
GOING TO WIN THAT STATE BY 8
POINTS ON ELECTION DAY, NOT A
SINGLE PERSON.
BUT I THINK WHAT THE NUMBERS
REFLECT TO YOUR POINT AFTER ALL
OF THAT CONVULSION AROUND THE --
AS I SAID, THE SHOOTING OF JACOB
BLAKE, THE PROTESTS, THE RIOTS,
THE BURNING, THE TWO CANDIDATES
COMING THERE AND MAKING IT
GROUND ZERO LAST WEEK, NOT MUCH
HAS FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGED NOT
JUST SINCE THEN BUT SINCE THE
CONVENTIONS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLLING IN
WISCONSIN ALL YEAR YOU HAD
BASICALLY JOE BIDEN AT THAT --
LIKE A HIGH SINGLE DIGIT LEAD.
EVERYONE THERE, REPUBLICAN
EXPERTS, DEMOCRATIC EXPERTS,
ASSUMES -- DONALD TRUMP WON THE
STATE IN 2016, THAT THE THING IS
GOING TO TIGHT EBBEN AND IT’S GO
TO BE A COUPLE POINTS OF A RACE.
I THINK WHAT WE LEARNED FROM
LAST WEEK AND I FOUND FROM THE
GROUND, WHAT I KEPT HEARING OVER
AND OVER AGAIN, WAS JOE BIDEN
AND DONALD TRUMP BOTH CAME TO
KENOSHA.
DONALD TRUMP CAME AND LOOKED AT
THE DESTRUCTION, LOOKED AT THE
BURNED BUILDINGS, TALKED ABOUT
RIOTS, JOE BIDEN CAME AND MET
WITH THE COMMUNITY, TALKED TO
JACOB BLAKE’S FAMILY AND A LOT
OF PEOPLE WERE VERY TUNED INTO
THE FACT THAT BEFORE DONALD
TRUMP CAME TO KENOSHA, HE WOULD
NOT DO WHAT JOE BIDEN HAD DONE,
WHICH IS CONDEMN VIOLENCE ON
BOTH SIDES.
AND PEOPLE SAW THAT SPEECH THE
NIGHT BEFORE THE -- THE PRESS
CONFERENCE THE NIGHT BEFORE
TRUMP CAME TO KENOSHA WHEN HE
REFUSED -- NOT ONLY DID HE
REFUSE TO DENOUNCE KYLE
RITTENHOUSE, BUT HE DEFENDED
HIM.
THAT COUPLED WITH THE WAY THAT
TRUMP CONDUCTED HIMSELF ON THE
GROUND, COMPARE AND CONTRAST
BETWEEN TRUMP AND BIDEN, TRUMP
IS SEEN AS A FORCE OF DIVISION
AMONG VOTERS IN THE MIDDLE OF
THE ELECTORATE IN WISCONSIN AND
THAT’S WHY I THINK THERE’S A
CEILING ON HIS ABILITY TO COME
CLOSE TO TIGHTEN THIS RACE UP IN
A LOT OF STATES AND A LOT OF