STATES DO GET AHEAD OF THEMSELVES AND OPEN TOO SOON.
WITHOUT TESTING AND TRACKING AND
ALL THE OTHER STUFF.
>> THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT
PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN
PROPAGANDAS FOR DONALD TRUMP
FROM THE BEGINNING, MIKA.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> SINCE THIS PANDEMIC HAS BEEN
UPON US, SINCE THE CORONAVIRUS
HAS BEEN UPON US, BEFORE IT WAS
CALLED A PANDEMIC, HAVE BEEN
DOWNPLAYING THIS, MOCKING THE
MEDICAL COMMUNITY, SAYING THAT
IT’S BEING EXAGGERATED.
DONALD TRUMP, TIME AND AGAIN,
"IT IS GOING TO GO AWAY
MAGICALLY."
MAGICALLY." AS DR. FAUCI SAID, "IT IS NOT
GOING AWAY MAGICALLY."
"WE ONLY HAVE ONE PERSON FROM
CHINA, ONLY 11 PEOPLE.
WE HAVE 15 PEOPLE.
SOON, IT’LL BE DOWN TO ZERO."
NOW, THEY’RE AT IT AGAIN, AND
THEY’RE AT IT AGAIN IN A WAY
THAT’S REALLY DANGEROUS.
YOU KNOW, I SAW JOHN HEILEMANN’S
RECOUNT YESTERDAY, AND THE BLAME
SHIFTING.
SHIFTING. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> I WONDER IF THAT’S PART OF
IT.
IT. LET’S PLAY THIS CALENDAR.
THIS IS AN UPDATED CALENDAR OF
WHAT WE SHOWED YOU A COUPLE DAYS
AGO FROM THE "RECOUNT."
TAKE A LOOK.
>> WE HAVE IT TOTALLY UNDER
CONTROL.
CONTROL. IT’S ONE PERSON COMING IN FROM
CHINA.
CHINA. IT’S GOING TO DISAPPEAR.
ONE DAY, IT’S LIKE A MIRACLE, IT
WILL DISAPPEAR.
WILL DISAPPEAR. OUR NUMBERS ARE LOWER THAN JUST
ABOUT ANYBODY.
ABOUT ANYBODY. YEAH, NO, I DON’T TAKE
RESPONSIBILITY AT ALL.
PEOPLE COMING IN FROM CHINA,
WHERE THIS ALL STARTED.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN STOPPED RIGHT
WHERE IT CAME FROM, CHINA.
IT CAME FROM CHINA.
GOT OUT OF CONTROL.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT GOVERNOR
CUOMO, BUILDING FOUR HOSPITALS,
HE’S SUPPOSED TO BE BUYING HIS
OWN VENTILATORS.
OWN VENTILATORS. WE’RE GOING TO HELP.
PEOPLE LIKE GOVERNOR INSLEE, HE
SHOULD BE DOING MORE.
HE SHOULDN’T BE RELYING ON THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. GOVERNOR INSLEE, THAT’S THE
STATE OF WASHINGTON.
DON’T CALL THE WOMAN IN
MICHIGAN.
MICHIGAN. SHE HAS NO IDEA WHAT’S GOING ON.
ALL SHE DOES IS SAY, "IT’S THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT’S FAULT."
WE’VE TAKEN GREAT CARE OF
MICHIGAN.
MICHIGAN. WE INHERITED, THIS
ADMINISTRATION INHERITED A
BROKEN SYSTEM.
BROKEN SYSTEM. THE ORIGINAL TESTS, THE ONES WE
INHERITED, JIM, AS AN EXAMPLE,
THEY WERE BROKEN.
THEY WERE OBSOLETE.
REMEMBER, WE INHERITED A BROKEN
SYSTEM.
SYSTEM. WE INHERITED A BROKEN SYSTEM.
W.H.O., THAT’S THE WORLD HEALTH
ORGANIZATION, THEY MISSED THE
CALL.
CALL. WORLD HEALTH GOT IT WRONG.
THEY GOT IT VERY WRONG.
ON MANY WAYS THEY WERE WRONG.
I’M NOT HAPPY WITH THE WORLD
HEALTH ORGANIZATION.
HEALTH ORGANIZATION. THE REALITY IS THAT THE W.H.O.
FAILED TO ADEQUATELY OBTAIN,
VET, AND SHARE INFORMATION IN A
TIMELY AND TRANSPARENT FASHION.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO EASY TO BE
TRUTHFUL.
TRUTHFUL. THE CORONAVIRUS, YOU KNOW THAT,
RIGHT?
RIGHT? CORONAVIRUS.
CORONAVIRUS. THIS IS THEIR NEW HOAX.
THE 15, WITHIN A COUPLE DAYS,
WILL BE DOWN CLOSE TO ZERO.
>> YOU KNOW, WE KNOW ONE THING.
AS IMPACTFUL AS THAT IS, IT IS
GOING TO BE UPDATED BY THE END
OF THE DAY.
IT SAYS 31,000 DEATHS.
>> I KNOW.
>> THE DEATH COUNT KEEPS
SKYROCKETING UP, LIKE THAT CHART
THAT ERIK ERIKSON TWEETED OUT
EARLIER.
EARLIER. DEATHS ARE STILL GOING STRAIGHT
UP.
UP. SO MANY AMERICANS, MILLIONS OF
AMERICANS HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE,
AND THEY’VE STAYED AT HOME.
THEY’VE TAKEN SOCIAL DISTANCING
SERIOUSLY.
SERIOUSLY. THE MITIGATION IS HELPING RIGHT
NOW, BUT, MIKA, IN THE RECOUNT
VIDEO, DONALD TRUMP BLAMED
CHINA.
CHINA. OF COURSE, AT THE SAME TIME,
BEFORE THAT, HE’D SAID HOW GREAT
CHINA WAS, THEY WERE
TRANSPARENT, AND HE THANKED
PRESIDENT XI.
PRESIDENT XI. BLAMED THE GOVERNORS.
BLAMED THAT WOMAN FROM MICHIGAN.
BLAMED OTHER PRESIDENTS.
BLAMED THE WORLD HEALTH
ORGANIZATION FOR BASICALLY
TAKING THE SAME STANCE HE DID.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> SAID, "WHY COULDN’T THEY JUST
BE TRUTHFUL?"
BE TRUTHFUL?" THIS IS THE SAME DONALD TRUMP
THAT BASICALLY CALLED IT A HOAX.
THE CORONAVIRUS, HE SAID
CORONAVIRUS, AND HIS AUDIENCE
BOOED AT THE, QUOTE, HOAX.
THAT THE MEDIA WAS OVERPLAYING
IT.
IT. MEDICAL COMMUNITY WAS
OVERPLAYING IT.
OVERPLAYING IT. THE SCIENTISTS WERE OVERPLAYING
IT.
IT. WELL, THEY WEREN’T OVERPLAYING
IT, AND NOW THAT MITIGATION IS
WORKING, THAT LISTENING TO DR.
FAUCI AND DR. BIRX IS WORKING,
NOW THEY’RE AT IT AGAIN.
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?
>> WELL, I THINK IN TERMS OF THE
MEDIA RESPONSIBLE,ILITY, IT IS
CURIOUS.
CURIOUS. EVEN THE HOSTS WE CAME IN WITH,
THE ATTITUDE OF THE INTERVIEWS
ARE ALL IN LINE WITH TRUMP’S
DESIRE TO REOPEN THE COUNTRY.
WHICH HE HAD THIS BIG
PRONOUNCEMENT YESTERDAY.
PRONOUNCEMENT YESTERDAY. >> BEFORE TESTING, BEFORE WE’RE
READY.
READY. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. A BIG PRONOUNCEMENT YESTERDAY
ABOUT A GRAND REOPENING, WHICH
IS NOW GIVEN TO THE STATES,
GIVEN TO THE GOVERNORS, WHICH HE
CLAIMED HE HAD ABSOLUTE POWER
OVER BUT NOW DOESN’T.
BECAUSE HE WOULD LIKE THE
RESPONSIBILITY TO LAY ON THEM.
DR. BIRX LAID OUT VERY CLEAR
GUIDELINES AS TO HOW SOME
BUSINESSES COULD REOPEN.
THEY ARE SPECIFIC.
ARE THEY PERFECT?
NO.
NO. BUT THEY HELP WITH THE PHYSICAL
DISTANCING.
DISTANCING. THEY HELP WITH TRYING TO STOP
THE SPREAD.
THE SPREAD. THAT’S ALL ON US STILL.
IT’S NOT TESTING.
IT’S NOT THERAPEUTICS.
IT’S NOT A VACCINE.
IT WAS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE TO
WATCH THAT HOST WHEN WE CAME IN,
PUSHING DR. FAUCI TO TRY AND
SAY, "THIS MIGHT GO AWAY," LIKE
SOME OTHER EPIDEMIC THAT, YOU
KNOW, THE WORLD HAS FACED.
FOR HIM TO SAY, VERY POLITELY,
TO USE THE WORD "MISLEADING" TO
HER FACE, BECAUSE IT WAS.
USUALLY, JOURNALISTICALLY EVEN,
THE WAY SHE WAS QUESTIONING AND
PUSHING TOWARD THIS GOING AWAY
WAS SO OFF-BASE.
YOU LOOK FOR TWO, THREE SOURCES.
YOU LOOK FOR REALLY, REALLY
STRONG SOURCES.
STRONG SOURCES. THERE ARE NO SOURCES SAYING THIS
IS GOING TO GO OUT AND AWAY ON
ITS OWN.
ITS OWN. SO YOU HAVE TO WONDER WHAT THE
MOTIVE IS THERE, LIKE A JOB OR
SOMETHING.
SOMETHING. JIM VANDEHEI, I MEAN, DONALD
TRUMP OFTEN INTERACTS WITH HIS
FRIENDS ON TELEVISION, AND TRIES
TO PUSH FOR A CERTAIN THEME.
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT HE STILL
SORT OF IS INTERACTING THAT WAY?
>> WELL, I THINK WHAT’S
INTERESTING ABOUT THIS
CONSPIRACY THEORY IS IF YOU
THINK ABOUT THE CONSPIRACY
THEORIES SINCE DONALD TRUMP TOOK
OFFICE, HE WAS USUALLY A BIG
PARTICIPANT IN IT.
RIGHT NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT
DR. PHIL OR DR. OZ OR SOME OF
THESE CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATORS
ARE SAYING, POINT TO DONALD
TRUMP.
TRUMP. DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN THE ONE
SITTING AT THE PODIUM SAYING 2.2
MILLION PEOPLE COULD HAVE DIED.
MAYBE IT IS 1.6 MILLION PEOPLE
COULD HAVE DIED.
THEN HE SAYS THE NUMBER IS
200,000 TO 250,000.
THEN THEY’RE SAYING IT’S A HOAX,
AND WHY IS HE SAYING, "THIS IS
WHAT I SEE WHEN I LOOK AT THE
EVIDENCE?"
EVIDENCE?" IF DONALD TRUMP DID WANT TO
SIGNAL TO THEM, YEAH, GET BACK
TO WORK, THIS IS A HOAX, HE’D
JUST SAY IT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN HE PUT
OUT LAST NIGHT, THAT WAS A VERY,
VERY CONSERVATIVE PLAN.
IT WAS DIFFERENTIAL TO THE
GOVERNORS.
GOVERNORS. IT’S STAGGERED AND BASICALLY
DOING THE THINGS THAT THE FAUCIS
OF THE WORLD WANT HIM TO DO.
WHATEVER IS HAPPENING WITH THESE
DOCTORS -- AND, BY THE WAY, I
TALKED TO BUSINESS LEADERS.
I TALKED TO FORTUNE 500 CEOs WHO
SHARED THIS VIEW AND WILL TALK
ABOUT IT IN PRIVATE.
THEY BELIEVE WE’RE OVERREACTING.
YES, IT IS A TERRIBLE DEATH
COUNT, BUT IT’S NOT THAT HIGH
COMPARED TO THE FLU, OR THAT
HIGH COMPARED TO CAR ACCIDENTS.
SO THERE’S DEFINITELY PEOPLE OUT
THERE WHO SINCERELY BELIEVE THE
RISK/REWARD, THAT WE’VE ERROREER
ON THIS.
ON THIS. NOBODY ON THE TASK FORCE,
OFFICIALS ARE SAYING, "YEAH,
IT’LL DISSIPATE QUICKLY."
WE KNOW WHAT IT IS, AND WE KNOW
THE STEPS WE HAVE TO TAKE.
IT WAS ARTICULATED YESTERDAY.
THERE’S A GAP BETWEEN THE
BRAVADO YOU HEAR FROM PRESIDENT
TRUMP IN THE MEANDERING NEWS
CONFERENCES, AND WHAT THEY’RE
ACTUALLY DOING.
ACTUALLY DOING. HAD HE NOT DONE ALL THE WEIRD
STUFF ABOUT, "I’M THE
AUTHORITARIAN LEADER AND CAN
DICTATE WHAT GOVERNORS CAN DO,"
IT WAS ALL MEANINGLESS AND
NONSENSE.
NONSENSE. HE ENDED UP DOING WHAT THE
CONSTITUTION SAYS HE CAN DO.
HE DEFERRED TO THE STATES TO LET
THEM MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT
GOVERNANCE AND LOCALITY.
>> I’M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THE
FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF
TALKED ABOUT OVER 2 MILLION
PEOPLE COULD DIE IF THERE
WEREN’T SOCIAL DISTANCING
GUIDELINES THAT WERE FOLLOWED.
IF THEY DIDN’T FOLLOW WHAT DR.
FAUCI AND DR. BIRX AND OTHER
MEDICAL PEOPLE SAID.
HE, OF COURSE, SAW WHAT HAPPENED
WITH BORIS JOHNSON, WHO MOCKED
THIS.
THIS. WENT AROUND SHAKING HANDS AND
ALMOST DIED.
ALMOST DIED. ENDED UP IN INTENSIVE CARE.
THEN WAS BEGGING PEOPLE TO TAKE
THIS SERIOUSLY.
THIS SERIOUSLY. I HAVE RELATIVES, SADLY, FRIENDS
WHO WEREN’T TAKING THIS
SERIOUSLY, BECAUSE THEY’RE
LISTENING TO SO MUCH OF THIS
PROPAGANDA THAT IS DEADLY
PROPAGANDA.
PROPAGANDA. IT SHARES ME TO DEATH FOR THEM.
FOR A LOT OF FRIENDS AND LOVED
ONES.
ONES. BUT LET’S LOOK AT THIS CHART
AGAIN.
AGAIN. I DIRECT THIS TO THOSE CEOs
YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT THAT SAY,
"THIS IS JUST LIKE CAR
ACCIDENTS."
ACCIDENTS." LOOK AT THIS CHART.
AGAIN, THERE’S CAR CRASHES,
STRAIGHT LINE.
STRAIGHT LINE. THERE’S THE 2017/’18 FLU.
LOOK HOW LOW IT IS.
THERE’S THE 2017/’18 FLU AND
PNEUMONIA NUMBERS.
PNEUMONIA NUMBERS. THE ’57 AND ’58 ASIAN FLU WITH
PNEUMONIA.
PNEUMONIA. THEN CEOs, LOOK AT THE RED LINE.
HERE’S THE DEAL, WE CAN’T REOPEN
THE ECONOMY, AS MUCH AS I WANT
TO REOPEN THE ECONOMY, AS MUCH
AS MIKA WANTS TO REOPEN, AS MUCH
AS ALL OF OUR CLOSE FRIENDS WHO
HAVE SMALL BUSINESSES WANT THE
ECONOMY REOPENED, UNTIL THAT
LINE FLATTENS OUT.
IT SURE AS HELL WOULD HELP IF WE
ACTUALLY HAD, JIM, TESTING.
IT ALWAYS GOES BACK TO TESTING,
TESTING, TESTING.
TESTING, TESTING. DONALD TRUMP HAS FAILED
MISERABLY ON TESTING.
BORIS JOHNSON FAILED MISERABLY
ON TESTING.
ON TESTING. THE UNITED STATES AND UNITED
KINGDOM FAILED MISERABLY TO
TESTING.
TESTING. WE SAID NO TO THE WORLD HEALTH
ORGANIZATION WHEN THEY HAD TESTS
FOR US EARLY ON.
WE ARE IN SUCH A MESS RIGHT NOW
BECAUSE OF TESTING.
JIM, THE PRESIDENT UNDERSTANDS
THIS.
THIS. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE IF WE GO
BACK TOO SOON.
FOR THOSE CEOs AND SMALL
BUSINESS OWNERS, IF WE GO BACK
TOO SOON, AND WE GET HIT AGAIN,
HARD, AND THEY HAVE TO CLOSE
AGAIN, THEN IT’S TWICE AS
DEVASTATING IF THEY HAVE TO
RECLOSE ALL OVER AGAIN.
>> I’LL SAY WHAT I SAID THE
OTHER DAY.
OTHER DAY. PUT THE CONSPIRACY NUTS TO THE
SIDE.
SIDE. MOST AMERICANS HAVE BEHAVED
SUPER RESPONSIBLY AND DONE WHAT
THEIR GOVERNORS TOLD THEM TO DO.
IF WE HAD ENOUGH MASKS AND
TESTING, PEOPLE WILL DO THE
RIGHT THING.
RIGHT THING. THEY’LL DO THEIR INSTANT TESTS.
THEY’LL RETURN TO WORK.
STAY 6 FEET APART.
THEY’LL PUT A MASK ON.
WE’VE SEEN IT.
EVERYONE IN MASKS, MOST PEOPLE.
YOU CAN FIND A COUPLE ANOMALYIES
BUT MOST PEOPLE HAVE DONE THE
RIGHT THING.
RIGHT THING. NOW, IT REALLY COMES DOWN
TOWARDS GETTING TESTING RIGHT.
DO WE GET ENOUGH TESTS TO ENOUGH
PEOPLE THAT ARE INSTAN TANTANEOU
AND TRUSTWORTHY, SO WE CAN MOVE
INTO A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN BE
IN A WORKPLACE?
IN MOST PLACES, IT LOOKS LIKE
WE’LL HAVE ENOUGH HOSPITAL BEDS.
OVER TIME, LOOKS LIKE WE WILL
HAVE ENOUGH VENTILATORS WHEN
THERE IS AN OUTBREAK, ASSUMING
YOU GET THE TESTING PIECE RIGHT.
YOU CAN HAVE SOME RETURN TO
NORMALITY.
NORMALITY. YOU’RE NOT GOING TO HAVE
CONCERTS, PROBABLY NOT HAVING
FOOTBALL STADIUMS FULL OF PEOPLE
THIS YEAR.
THIS YEAR. BUT THE REST OF THE THINGS, IF
YOU DO ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS,
CAN HAPPEN.
CAN HAPPEN. ONE OF THE THINGS THE PRESIDENT
IS BEING TOLD BY ADVISERS IS,
"LISTEN, BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR
RHETORIC HERE.
RHETORIC HERE. YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO BLAME THE
CHINESE IN TERMS OF, LIKE, WHO
IS TO BLAME FOR THE ORIGINATION
OF THIS VIRUS.
BUT IF YOU PUSH PEOPLE BACK, AND
YOU’RE THE PERSON WHO SAT ON THE
PODIUM AND SAID, I’M ALL
POWERFUL, AND I DICTATED
EVERYONE SHOULD RETURN TO WORK,
AND THEN YOU SEE A MASSIVE DEATH
SPIKE, IT’S TOTALLY ON YOU."
THERE’S A DANGER IN THE "I’M THE
ALL POWERFUL LEADER," WHICH, BY
THE WAY, IS WHY HE IS DOING WHAT
EVERYONE SAID HE SHOULD DO AND
KNEW HE WOULD DO.
DEFER TO THE GOVERNORS.
SOME OF THE GOVERNORS NEXT WEEK
WILL START TO RETURN TO WORK.
WE’LL SEE THE CONSEQUENCES OF
THAT.
THAT. HOPEFULLY THEY’RE RIGHT, AND
HOPEFULLY IN THOSE REGIONS, IT
WASN’T AS BAD AS PEOPLE FEARED,
AND THEY CAN DO IT.
>> WE’LL SEE.
SOME OF THOSE PLACES, THE
PRESIDENT SAID, COULD OPEN AS