Using Trump's own words against him.
The lawyer for Jean Carroll,
who is suing
Trump in civil court over an alleged rape
and defamation,
closing her case
against the former president with video
from his deposition video
where he defends
his remarks on that Access
Hollywood tape where he said stars
could sexually assault women
without their consent.
Well, historically, that's true
with stars.
It's true with stars
that they can grab women by the pussy.
Well, that's what
if you look over the last million years,
I guess that's been
largely through
not always, but largely true,
unfortunately or fortunately.
And you consider yourself to be a star
I think you can say that.
Yeah.
That was his deposition in this case
where I'm not pulling old tape.
That's like for this case.
The jury expected to begin
deliberations tomorrow
and could
force Trump to pay damages to Carol
if it believes her allegations now.
Ryan Goodman has been following this case
with us from the beginning
is now up front.
And Ryan,
let me just ask you, because this is
a case you've been watching very closely
and you kind of have pointed out
that others had not for a while.
Now, obviously, it's on the front burner.
The jury verdict
does need to be unanimous,
but it's a civil trial.
So the burden of proof is just sort of
that they've got
the prosecution has to prove
it's likely that this happened
and that could be 51%. Right.
I mean,
you don't have to have beyond
a reasonable doubt.
So you've got a much lower standard,
even though you need unanimity.
How significant would it be
if the jury does find Trump guilty?
So I think this is partly a reason
why it's a sleeper
that people don't necessarily
realize that there's
a lot of statistical evidence
that shows that the American voters
will respond very strongly
if it is proven that he is
guilty of sexual assault.
So there was a Quinnipiac poll
in December of 2017
and it asked American voters
if it was proven that he committed
sexual harassment.
Do you think he should be
removed from office
and a very high number.
61% said yes for sexual harassment.
This is sexual assault.
And also that.
61% in terms of it being proven
there would be being proven
in a court of law by unanimous jury
so that's and that.
61% is also higher
than any single poll ever
in the first two impeachments
against him no poll reached 61%
removal from office.
Okay that's that
so that I think just an incredible
just to give everyone
a data point of where we are now.
The his comments
in that deposition
about the Access
Hollywood tape
are not the only part of that deposition
that he's got a lot of criticism
over his go to
defense his entire defense on
this was actually
she's not my type
E Jean Carroll's not my type.
He is in the deposition
they said
with as much respect as I can,
but she is not my type.
I wouldn't
be my type in any way, shape or form.
Well, it's politically incorrect.
She's not my type.
And that's 100% true.
She's not my type.
Okay.
So in a deposition environment,
he had made a decision
whether his lawyers wanted him to or not,
that that he was going to say that again
and again. Again.
But then I want to just point out
that he
and then appeared undermine himself
because he mistakenly said that
this photo, which I'm
going to show of him with E!
Jean Carroll,
he mistakenly said
that the woman with him in this picture
was his second wife, Marla, Maples.
So this person who is not his type,
he thinks is his wife.
Let me play that part
I don't even know who
the woman, let's say. I don't know who.
It's Marla
You say marbles in the photo.
That's Marla.
Yeah, it's just it's my wife.
Which one?
Are you putting something up here?
That you just pointed to?
Who is that versus point?
Your wife
and the person of the woman on the right
is your then wife.
I don't know if this was the picture
not his type,
but he thinks it's his wife. Okay.
He did not end up testifying.
This deposition is what we got
Is this going to help or hurt him
with the jury that he didn't testify?
Notwithstanding the horror
of the deposition,
I think it hurts him quite a bit.
And the plaintiff's counsel, in
fact, starts
their closing argument
and ends their closing argument
almost like bookends by saying
he's not here before you.
He did not come and testify
before you, the jury,
and tell you that this was a lie.
Why is that?
Wouldn't you yourself rush to court
if you were falsely accused
of something like sexual assault?
They think it really helps them a lot.
All right.
And just a final quick question to you.
What have you ever.
What do you make of that deposition?
It's damning from beginning to end.
It's you know, the Access
Hollywood tape was entered in evidence
because it is like a confession.
It matches many of the allegations
against him from aging.
Carol, hers go further further step.
But then he doubles down
in the deposition.
And there are lots of other parts
of the deposition
that are really bad for him.
He also loses it
and calls the woman
attorney for Jean Carroll
that she's not his type either,
which is just misogyny through
and through in the deposition.
And this is the theory of the case.
This is a misogynist
is the theory of the case.
And that's why he committed
this act of sexual assault.
So there's
so many other parts of the deposition
that it's really not something good
that the defense counsel would want.
All right.
Thank you very much, Ryan Goodman, and,
of course, will await to
see when that verdict comes.