We have a huge housing crisis in our country,
the likes of which we have not seen in a long period of time, but
I believe that we need to build horizontally, not vertically.
It's one of my speeches, developers don't like it when I say this, but it's true,
the higher the building, the more liberal the voter, it just is.
So, if you are, the closer to the ground you are, the more conservative you are.
We should encourage people to spread horizontally and not vertically.
Look at denver, the higher the high rises has denver become less free or more free,
it's become a dystopian nightmare.
You guys know that, now you might say charlie,
it's a correlation of the causation, think about it.
If you're on the 32nd floor, renting, not owning,
if you're not in the weeds, and in the yard.
And understanding what it takes to grow food, and to maintain the land,
are you be more or less likely to actually be a conservative.
The higher the building, every single study shows,
they become more liberal over time.
It's happening in phoenix, happened in denver, happen in atlanta,
happened in dallas, happened in chicago, happen everywhere and yet
few people actually say that out loud, whatever.
>> Okay, during an event that was hosted, by turning point USA,
charlie Kirk decided to.
I don't know, there were so many weird arguments kinda baked into that rant.
That I don't even know where to start John, but yes, you've heard it
here first folks, if we're dealing with too many high rise buildings.
All of a sudden, the Libs will come right,
it somehow transforms the population to the left, okay, go ahead John.
>> He has no idea what he's talking about, he has no idea, but
it does at least look like.
Unlike some other more established right wingers, it sounded near the end,
like he does have people around him.
Who are cautioning against saying that, he says nobody says this, but
whatever I'm going to.
They like, people are trying to help you though buddy,
they were trying to point out that you're not making any sense,
that you don't understand what you're talking about.
And the fact that this is, one of your speeches, like this is in like your
back pocket to whip out when you're talking about housing.
The idea that, if you take a conservative and you put him on the 30th
floor in a couple of years, he's gonna be drinking chai every day.
What are you saying, you don't even know you,
you brought up the idea of the difference between correlation and causation.
But you clearly don't understand what that point is about,
cities change over time, time passes, populations change.
There are many things that can influence the ideological makeup of a city.
The fact that you lifted people doesn't by its own nature,
make them liberals, that's not how that works.
>> He also made a weird point about like, we can't be building upward,
we have to build outward.
Because if people aren't getting their hands dirty,
playing around with the soil, they're not gonna what.
Okay, first of all, I just wanted to dispel the notion,
that charlie kirk ever does.
Any manual labor, including like mowing a lawn, okay,
homeboy came from a super wealthy privileged family.
Like, I would not be surprised if they relied on migrants to do the work for
them, but that's a different topic, probably for a different time.
But like, I actually love manual labor, especially outdoor yard work,
which I can't do, I don't have a yard, but I like to do the work in my parents yard.
And that has done nothing to transform me to a conservative,
like how stupid are these arguments.
>> Yeah, I do yard work, so should I be worried, am I not gonna be a progressive
soon, I do yard work, I do work in my garage, which is on the ground floor.
What about community gardens, sure seems like a thing that some hippies and
libs like weird that they haven't turned into conservatives yet.
There's nothing to this, but again, I'll go back to my previous point,
so long as politics is about the absurd.
So long as it makes no sense, so long as it's not attached to reality, and
it has nothing to do.
With who gets what, when and why,
how politics affects the distribution of resources.
So long as it's miles away from that,
they are still winning, yep it's really pathetic.
But he forgets that his daddy happens to be a big
proponent of high rise buildings, let me remind him.
>> You have one of the landmark buildings down in the financial district,
40 wall street.
Did you have any damage or did you know what, what's happened down there.
>> Well, it was an amazing phone call, I made 40 wall street actually was
the second tallest building in downtown manhattan.
>> And it was, actually before the world trade center was the tallest,
and then when they built the world trade center,
became known as the second tallest, and now it's the tallest.
>> It's just he's such a bad person, imagine that being your reaction to 911,
looks like I've got the tallest building in new york now, what a piece of trash.
>> I mean, [CROSSTALK] seriously,
sociopaths, they don't know how to relate to regular people.
It takes a lot of money, a lot of advertising,
a lot of fake news personalities to convince them that these are people
that might possibly have your back.
Look, if you want to have debates about, the relative merits of high rises
versus suburbs, like if you want to do that, we can do that.
There's definitely, many different pros and
cons to different ways of organizing people.
But the idea that, by its very nature we should be opposing dense
accumulations of housing, because of the ideological implications.
That is madness, it's madness, thankfully that not a single policy maker,
not a single real estate developer is ever gonna listen to.
But maybe a few impressionable people, will come away from his insane
screen thinking some crazy things about high rises.
>> And look, this is my theory,
okay, my theory is the reason why you have more left leaning people.
In densely populated parts of the country,
is because densely populated parts of the country, tend to also be far more diverse.
So it's way harder for right wing demagogues,
to fear monger about people of colour, or about LGBTQ.
People, like it's cuz we know them, we work with them,
where they are in our neighborhoods or communities.
Their people we associate with, their our friends, oftentimes family members.
That's part of the reason why, it's just people in densely populated parts of
the country are harder to reach, because it's harder to lie to them.
Because they actually experience,
people from all different backgrounds on a regular basis, and
it turns out, diversity ain't so scary, that's my theory.