>>> IN JUST OVER A MONTH, 121 PEOPLE FROM 17 STATES IN
WASHINGTON DC HAVE BEEN
DIAGNOSED WITH THE MEASLES.
IT DOES NOT BODE WELL AS WE'RE
COMING OFF THE BIGGEST OUTBREAK.
IT IS PART OF A BIG MULTISTATE
OUTBREAK THAT SEEMS TO HAVE
STARTED IN DISNEYLAND.
THE CLUSTER OF CASES THAT IS
MOST SCAREY IS IN ILLINOIS,
EIGHT OF NINE PEOPLE ARE BABIES
UNDER THE AGE OF ONE.
THE LAST IS AN ADULT.
SO FAR THE ILLINOIS CLUSTER HAS
NOT BEEN CONNECTED TO THE
DISNEYLAND OUTBREAK.
DISNEYLAND OUTBREAK. MEANWHILE TODAY IN WASHINGTON,
SENATORS FROM BOTH PARTIES
TALKED ABOUT WAYING TO PREVENT
FURTHER OUTBREAKS.
FURTHER OUTBREAKS. DR. MARK SEAUIER WAS QUICK TO
POINT OUT THAT THINGS ARE
GETTING WORSE, NOT BETTER.
>> WE'RE ALL CROSSING OUR
FINGERS HERE THAT MAYBE WE'RE
NEAR THE END, BUT THE CASE
NUMBER WENT UP BY 20 JUST THIS
LAST WEEK, SO I'M NOT SURE WE'RE
DON'T WITH THIS YET.
>>> A WEEK AGO, IT WAS 102
CASES, TODAY WE'RE LOOKING AT
121.
121. NOT SURPRISINGLY HEALTH OFFIC L
OFFICIALS SAY MOST OF THE PEOPLE
INFECTED WERE NOT VACCINATED.
THAT IS A PROBLEM CONSIDERING
THAT SOME PARENTS ARE PURPOSELY
NOT VACCINATING THEIR CHILDREN.
>>> ELI, MY 10 MONTH OLD SON HAS
RECEIVED ALL OF HIS VACCINES ON
SCHEDULE, BUT IS NOT OLD ENOUGH
FOR MMR.
FOR MMR. AND MY DAUGHTER WHO IS FULLY K
VULNERABLE BECAUSE OF HER
CANCER.
CANCER. THIS HERD IMMUNITY IS THE ONLY
THING PROTECTING MY TWO YOUNG
CHILDREN FROM BEING EXPOSED TO
MEASLES OR WHATEVER THE NEXT
OUTBREAK IS.
OUTBREAK IS. >> NOW WE HAVE A BEST SELLING
AUTHOR ATUL GAUWANDE.
I HAVE SEEN YOU TALK AND WRITE
ABOUT THE CHANGE BETWEEN THE
DOCTOR AND PATIENT RELATIONSHIP
WITH TWO THINGS.
THE RISE OF THE INTERNET AND THE
DECLINING TRUST THAT PEOPLE HAVE
IN THE MEDICAL PROFESSION.
HOW MUCH OF THAT IS DRIVING WHAT
WE'RE SEEING HERE IN TERMS OF
VACCINATIONS?
VACCINATIONS? >> I THINK THOSE ARE
SIGNIFICANT.
SIGNIFICANT. YOU ADD TO IT THAT THESE ARE
DISEASES WE DON'T SEEM TO
REMEMBER WHICH IS IRONIC.
THESE CONDITIONS, PEOPLE WILL
SAY MEASLES, IS IT REALLY THAT
DANGEROUS?
DANGEROUS? AND WE FORGET THAT CHILDHOOD
VIRAL ILLNESSES WERE MAJOR
KILLERS NOT THAT LONG AGO.
AND IN MY OWN CHILDHOOD, I
DEVELOPED MUMPS WHICH HAS SINCE
BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE
CONTROLLED WITH VACCINATIONS.
AND I WAS ONE OF THOSE KIDS,
BECAUSE THERE WAS THOUSANDS WITH
MUMPS, I DEVELOPED THE MOST
SEVERE FORM, AND I WAS JUST
LUCKY I SURVIVED.
YOU CAN DIE FROM THE DISEASE.
WHAT WE HAVE NOW, WHICH IS THE
REAL SURPRISE IS A GENERATION
WHO HAS HAD THIS KIND OF DIRE
ILLNESS AND RANGE OF ILLNESSES
THAT SHORTEN LIVES ELIMINATED
FROM OUR MEMORY.
AND THAT SAME GENERATION THAT
BENEFITTED FROM IT IS THE ONE
THAT DOUBTS GIVING IT TO THE
NEXT GENERATION.
NEXT GENERATION. >> SO, I GUESS THE QUESTION HERE
IS, AND THIS PERTAINS TO THE NEW
BOOK YOU HAVE OUT ABOUT END OF
LIFE CARE AND HOW WE MAKE THESE
DIFFICULT DECISIONS IN CONCERT
WITH MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND
FAMILY ABOUT END OF LIFE CARE,
AND THE VACCINATIONS.
WHICH IS HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT
REBUILDING A TRUST SO YOU CAN
HAVE CONVERSATIONS OR
RECONSTITUTING MEDICAL AUTHORITY
AT AN AGE WHERE IT SEEMS TO BE
ON THE DECLINE?
>> I THINK THIS IS WHERE STORY
TELLING IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT
BECAUSE WE DON'T REMEMBER THE
STORIES OF WHAT HAPPENED TO
PEOPLE WHEN THERE WAS A TIME
WHEN INFECTIOUS DISEASE WAS THE
MOST DIRE THING THAT FAMILIES
WORRIED ABOUT.
WORRIED ABOUT. NOW IT IS INJURIES.
AND WE'RE RIGHTLY CONCERNED
ABOUT ACCIDENTS, GUNS, AND OTHER
CONCERNS LIKE THAT.
ABROAD YOU SEE THE STORIES AND
YOU BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
HAPPENS, AND IT IS SIMILAR AT
THE END OF LIFE.
WE HAVEN'T REALLY BROUGHT THE
STORIES OF WHAT THE EXPERIENCE
IS OF DIEING IN A HOSPITAL,
DIEING IN INTENSIVE CARE, AND
MAKING IT CLEAR THAT IS A KIND
OF SUFFERING THAT DOESN'T EXTEND
PEOPLE'S LIVES, IT OFTEN
SHORTENS PEOPLE'S LIVES WHEN WE
DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF
APPROACH.
APPROACH. SO I THINK WE'RE BEGINNING TO
UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO BRING
THE STORIES AND BE ABLE TO MAKE
THEM PUBLIC.
THEM PUBLIC. >> A PLEASURE, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>>> A GROWING NUMBER OF
DEMOCRATS ARE REFUSING TO ATTEND
THE ADDRESS TO CONGRESS LAST
MONTH.
MONTH. PLUS