THAT'S
THAT'S EIGHT SIX SIX EIGHT FOUR EIGHT TWO ONE TWO SIX OH WELCOME BACK.
>> A NEW DOCUMENTARY FOCUSES ON
PETE SOUZA.
HE WAS THE WHITE HOUSE
PHOTOGRAPHER FOR BOTH
PRESIDENTS REAGAN AND OBAMA.
THE DOCUMENTARY IS CALLED THE
WAY I SEE IT AND OUR FRIEND KIM
HOLCOMB TALKED TO PETE AND
PRODUCER LAURA DERN ABOUT WHY
ALL OF THIS IS SO RELEVANT
RIGHT NOW.
OKAY.
>> I'LL START WITH YOU.
YOU WERE AN OFFICIAL WHITE
HOUSE PHOTOGRAPHER FOR TWO
PRESIDENTS AND YET DIDN'T
REALLY CONSIDER YOURSELF
POLITICAL UNTIL A FEW YEARS AGO
.
THAT MAY CONFUSE SOME PEOPLE.
>> WELL, MEANING THE SENSE THAT
I WAS DOCUMENTING HISTORY IN
PARTY POLITICS DIDN'T REALLY
PLAY A ROLE AND THAT JOB IS I
THINK WHAT I MEANT.
>> AND WHEN DID YOU
SPECIFICALLY BECOME POLITICAL
IN YOUR MIND?
WAS THERE?
>> I MEAN I SAY I SAY I'M
POLITICAL NOW BUT I GUESS WHAT
I REALLY MEAN IS I'M I'VE MADE
A DECISION TO SPEAK OUT AS A
CITIZEN.
AND I GUESS THE VARIOUS THE
VERY NATURE OF SPEAKING OUT
AGAINST THE CURRENT PRESIDENT
IS ISN'T IN FACT A POLITICAL
ACT.
SO LAURA, FOR YOU, MOST OF US
ARE USED TO SEEING YOU ON
CAMERA PLAYING A CHARACTER.
WHAT ABOUT PETE AND HIS SUCH
SPECIFIC AND AND UNIQUE
EXPERIENCE?
THIS SPOKE TO YOU AS BEING A
CHARACTER WHO YOU WANTED TO
BRING TO THE SCREEN FROM BEHIND
THE SCENES.
>> WELL, MY PRODUCING PARTNER
JAMIE LEMONS AND EVAN HAYES HAD
THE PRIVILEGE OF SEEING PETE
SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS DURING HIS
BOOK TOURS AND THEY WERE SO
IMPACTFUL TO THEM.
>> I HAD KNOWN PETE'S
EXTRAORDINARY WORK AND THE GIFT
OF HIS IMAGES NOT ONLY IN TERMS
OF ARCHIVING OUR HISTORY BUT
FOR ME PERSONALLY.
ARCHIVING WHAT EMPATHY LOOKS
LIKE, WHAT LEADERSHIP LOOKS
LIKE REGARDLESS OF PARTY
POLITICS.
AS PETE SAID.
SO THE IDEA THAT THROUGH HIS
STORYTELLING AND SHARING OF HIS
EXPERIENCES THAT WE CAN BE
REMINDED WHAT THAT IS FOR US
AND TO FOREVER PROTECT
PARTICULARLY WHEN WE GO TO THE
BALLOT BOX AND HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO USE OUR VOICE IN
A WAY THAT SO DEEPLY MATTERS
THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO SHARE
THAT STORY THROUGH PETE'S WORK
AND WORDS AND BRAVERY AND
IRREVERENCE AND STORYTELLING
THROUGH THE THROUGH THE THE
IMAGES THAT HE'S GIVEN US.
THAT WAS WHAT WAS MOST EXCITING
AND I FEEL GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
>> AND THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY SOME
DEEPLY MOVING PARTS THIS FILM
SOME SOME LOWS WE RELIVE SANDY
HOOK AND SOME THINGS THAT ARE
VERY TRAGIC TO FEEL AGAIN.
AND THEN THERE ARE SOME
WONDERFUL HIGHS I HAVE TO SAY
WATCHING YOU GET MARRIED IN THE
ROSE GARDEN WITH CERTAIN
SEATTLE MUSICIAN PLAYING YOUR
WEDDING.
CARLISLE.
WEDDING. CARLISLE. YEAH, SHE'S A BUDDY OF MINE AND
I WAS SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE HER
COME TO COME TO THE WEDDING AND
IT WAS IT WAS ACTUALLY KIND
OF FUN TRYING TO ORGANIZE HER
SCHEDULE AND PRESIDENT OBAMA'S
SCHEDULE SO WE COULD SO WE
COULD MAKE IT WORK.
>> I MEAN IT'S HARD TO EVEN
IMAGINE BEING ABLE TO SAY THOSE
THINGS IN ONE SENTENCE TALKING
ABOUT YOUR WEDDING DAY IN ORDER
FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA TO
OFFICIATE MY WEDDING AND BRANDI
CARLILE TO PLAY IT.
>> WE HAD TO MAKE SURE THE
SCHEDULES WORKED.
>> LAURA, WE ARE LIVING IN SUCH
A DEEPLY DIVIDED POLITICAL
MOMENT.
>> WHAT DO YOU HOPE THIS MOVIE
SAYS TO AUDIENCES WHO WILL
WATCH IT?
>> WELL, AS PETE HAS SAID,
FACTS ARE FACTS.
>> THERE'S NOTHING ELSE.
AND THE TRUTH DOESN'T LIE AND
THE IMAGE DOESN'T LIE AND HIS
IMAGES NOT ONLY REMIND US WHAT
EMPATHY LOOKS LIKE BUT AS WE
HEAR ON THE WEST AND IN THE
PACIFIC NORTHWEST.
NO, WE'RE HAVING OUR WINDOWS
DOORS CLOSED AND THE
DEVASTATION OF THESE FIRES ARE
HITTING US ALL.
YOU KNOW, IT'S DEFINITELY GOING
TO TAKE INCREDIBLE COMPASSION
AND CONSIDERATION TO HELP US
FIGURE OUT A PLAN IN THIS
CLIMATE CRISIS.
AND SO EMPATHY RULES ALL AND I
AM SO GRATEFUL TO PETE'S
EXTRAORDINARY GIFT TO CONTINUE
TO REMIND US OF WHAT THAT LOOKS
LIKE SO THAT WE FIGHT ALWAYS
WITH OUR VOICES AND OUR VOTE TO
MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT AND ROLE
OF ALL LEADERS NOT JUST
PRESIDENT BUT BUT LOCAL
LEADERSHIP IN CONGRESS AND
SENATE.
SO IT'S AN EXCITING TIME TO TO
ENSURE THAT FOR THIS COUNTRY.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
TIME, YOU GUYS AND I HAVE TO
SAY IT MADE MY HEART FEEL HAPPY
TO SEE THAT CHARLOTTE DOES MAKE
IT INTO THE MOVIE ALBEIT DURING
THE CREDITS YOU'RE GIVING IT
AWAY.
>> WE WON'T TELL ANYONE.
>> OK.
YOU GUYS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
PLAYERS REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU.
>> KIM IS ALWAYS SPILLING THE
SECRETS, ISN'T SHE THE WAY I
SEE IT.
AIRS TOMORROW NIGHT AT 7:00 ON
MSNBC.
IT'S GETTING TO BE THAT TIME