You actually look at the bill and
it says no sexual instruction in grades pre K through three.
And so, how many parents want their kindergarteners to have transgenderism or
something injected into classroom instruction?
And so I think those are very young kids.
I think the legislature is basically trying to give parents assurance that,
they're gonna be able to go and this stuff is not gonna be there.
>> That was the argument that they made when they were pushing for
Florida's don't say gay bill.
Hey, it's just K through three get off our backs.
Isn't that so reasonable everybody?
And I don't know how many people bought that at the time.
We understand how these things go, but it turns out they're going that way way
faster than maybe we would have even predicted because already the Santa and
his administration are pushing to expand this for all grades.
All grades everywhere, all the time, not K through three, we're talking about full on
teens, teens that we give some rights to are going to be forbidden for discussion.
And learning education around sexual orientation and gender identity and
all of this has proceeded in like a year maybe, the expansion is already happening.
Jessica, what do you think?
>> Who could have seen this coming?
Definitely not anybody here.
It turns out it's not about grooming kids,
it's about the oppression of LGBTQ plus folks.
I couldn't have predicted it, you couldn't have predicted it, John,
this is a surprise to us.
>> Yeah, 100%.
By the way, it's probably needless to take this little roadside.
But their argument, even if they hadn't expanded, it was yes,
the idea that this is necessary that we need to stop education,
which is largely stopping adults from being able to be who they are because of
concerns about grooming were always BS, it wasn't happening.
It's not an actual problem even in that form,
it was a needless culture war to gin up the right wing base.
The expansion is another way that they're doing that and it's gonna be high school
and it'll be college eventually grad students PhD program.
I can be able to learn about this stuff.
And so, here is the actual text of the bill.
For grades four through 12 instruction on sexual orientation or
gender identity is prohibited unless such instruction is either expressly required
by state academic standards.
Or is part of a reproductive health course or health lesson for
which a student's parents have the option to have his or her student not attend.
It would ban classroom instruction on both sexual orientation or gender identity in
pre K through grade eight and would not require any employee or student
to refer to another person using their preferred personal title or pronouns.
If it does not correspond to that person's sex, proposed legislation would also make
the statewide public school policy that it is false to ascribe to a person a pronoun
that does not correspond to such persons sex.
And can we just pause briefly on this, because I love how obvious and
quick the hypocrisy is revealed.
So initially they say, how dare you make me say this thing and
it is already developed to, you cannot say this thing,
like literally if the kid wants this pronoun, if the parents want the pronoun,
if the teacher wants the pronoun, you can't use it.
So this has moved so quickly from just being about controlling kids and
giving new rights to parents to no adults or parents have rights if those rights
in exercise would result in you saying something that I don't like, thoughts.
>> Yeah, this is I don't wanna say hilarious because it's not hilarious.
It has real consequences.
But initially the conversation was like, why do these woke Nazis want
police our language and now it's like you wanna get the law involved.
All we were saying was,
please call people by the pronounced that they would like to be called by.
So, sex and gender not the same thing.
If you wanna call someone by the parts that they have and
make that enforceable by law, that seems like an infringement on
personal freedoms more so than the original situation.
So for people who say they don't care about language and
where the police of language, they seem to care about language an awful lot.
>> They sure do.
And there's one other aspect of this that I wanna make sure that people understand
because very often they will attempt to pass these sorts of bills by appealing to
reasonable standards or whatever, academic standards, they even use that language.
So it says, it states that any instruction on these topics cannot occur, quote in
a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students
in accordance with state standards as if those things are objective, as if.
Well, we found out what is age appropriate and developmentally appropriate because it
was carved into a big old rock face 1000 years.
No, they are the ones who define those things.
State standards could be objective.
They could be based on good academic research in theory.
Do you think that in Florida that's how it's gonna go?
They're taking over the boards of colleges left and right.
They are putting people in place to write those standards and
then they hide by those standards as a propagandistic shield.
That's, that's what this is.
It's more importantly, it's not popular, which we're gonna get to in just a second.
But I hate they spend literally decades trying to get people to
lose faith in academia, faith in expertise, all of that.
And then when it's convenient, they'll hide behind a fake version of
it to lend like faux academic credentials to their cultural crusades.
Yeah, it's a big contrast between people on the left where we're like,
you know what?
People don't have health care.
We should increase access to health care to address that problem.
They're like, well, there are child groomers.
We're not gonna tell you who they are, where they are, but
we think they're in schools and so we're gonna pass legislation so
that you can't use pronouns or hang LGBTQ plus flags in the schools.
It's all about pushing their way of life on other people and
it's getting to an extreme at this point and Florida is a dangerous place because
De Santa's whole platform, he hasn't announced he's running yet.
It's to make America Florida.
So this is what we can expect with the DeSantis presidency.
>> 100%.
Yeah, make America Florida man again.
It'll be entertaining, I guess for local news might not be great for
most people and to any conservatives in the audience,
I understand that you don't care about how dishonest or hypocritical they're being,
you don't care that they've rapidly expanded this.
You wanted it to be expanded in the first place.
But I will try to remind you pointlessly yet again.
When you face medical bankruptcy,
when you're having to work as a Walmart grader until you're 79 years old or
whatever it is going to provide little solace that thousands of miles away people
you've never met don't get to use the pronoun that they want.
That's my prediction.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe that will warm your heart.
I don't know.
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