There's a new lawsuit that appears to be the first of its kind that's being filed
by two of Wisconsin presidential electors.
And they're now against the 10 fake electors that tried to act like they were
them in trying to overturn the election of course, and
let Donald Trump maybe steal that state.
Yes, we'll continue down this same road.
So what is it that these suing electors want from these fake ones.
Let's go into the details cuz the Democrats who brought the lawsuit in
Dane County Circuit Court, they're also seeking to punish two attorneys as well
who worked on this effort.
They want a judge to award all involved up to $200,000 apiece in damages to ensure
the losing side in future elections doesn't file official looking paperwork
with Congress claiming to be the winner.
We know that's the process that they went through.
So this new lawsuit brought by some of the same attorneys seeks to go further by
asking a judge to find the Republicans engaged in
a conspiracy aimed at defrauding voters.
Lets name some names, defendant's actions helped lay the foundation for
a nationwide scheme to override the results of the 2020 election thereby
setting an anti-democratic president that jeopardizes
all future elections inside and outside the state.
That's what the attorney Jeffrey Mandel wrote.
Now those bringing the sue, they're asking for a judge to block the fake electors
from engaging in similar activity in the future and from ever serving as electors.
They're also seeking to have them pay a variety of fines and damages,,
noting that one statue would allow a judge to make each pay that $200,000 that I
was mentioning a second ago.
Now the fake elections are still denying that they did anything wrong.
So I'm not really sure what they said that they did do or if they're saying that they
did this stuff but it's just not wrong, this is what they did.
So Democrats met in the state Capitol to cast the state's 10 electoral votes for
Biden, the real ones.
At the same time the fake electors gathered in another part of the capital to
fill out paperwork claiming Trump had won.
They submitted their findings to Congress, the National Archives,
a federal judge and Wisconsin Secretary of State Doug La Follette.
At the time the fake elector said that they held the meeting to ensure that
the state's electoral votes were cast for Trump if a court order later determined
that he was the true winner of the state, that's really what they were doing.
And also the following from the fake electors in Wisconsin and
elsewhere helped Trump and his allies argue that the results were in dispute as
they tried to prevent Congress from finalizing those votes.
So it was a trigger vote Jake.
What they were trying to do was just have this whole thing set up as fake electors
who were not put in those positions so
that just in case if the election was flipped and maybe courts looked at it,
they could have it already set up and ready to go.
>> So guys, this is the heart of the coup, the riot was not the heart of the coup.
They were never gonna hold the Capitol,
it's not like the the US military would have surrendered.
Do you guys have the Viking dude or the shaman dude and
13 other guys are holding the Capitol, right?
So that was to intimidate the politicians and
maybe murder them because they were chanting about hanging Mike Pence and
they had a plan to kill Nancy Pelosi etc, right?
So that's super important and dangerous but
that's not how they were going to seize power.
The way they're gonna seize power is through the fake electors and so
I love this lawsuit.
I think of all the things that they're doing, the January 6th commission,
there's no results.
There's never gonna be results except more Democratic fundraising, okay?
So all of that stuff is, in my mind, pretty much nonsense, okay?
But this could make a difference.
If a court says, yeah, no, you're not allowed to be a fake collector and
why were they chanting hang Mike Pence?
Because Mike Pence wouldn't agree to this insane plot where they basically do
a political coup against America.
Pence knows, Trump knows, they all know they didn't win.
So they're saying it's okay Mike, and Bannon brags about this,
Navarro wrote a whole book about it.
These are Trump allies, Trump administration officials.
They say Pence instead of doing this official duty,
which is just to read who the actual winner is based on the real electors.
They said don't read it and say no, we have to go back to the states and
this Republican legislators will then say the fake electors were the real
electors and then Trump will be president.
Because we'll see the fake electors so that he could win the electoral college.
No, that's an actual literal plan they had, they even wrote it in a book.
>> And talked about it.
>> Yeah and Bannon talked about it on air and that's why they were so
mad at Mike Pence because he ruined, in their mind, the coup attempt.
But the critical part was the fake electors and they signed documents.
So this lawsuit is an excellent start to hold them accountable.
If it works in this state, they're gonna do it in the six other
states where they had fake electors but guys, the most important thing they should
be doing is it should actually lead to criminal liability.
That is an actual insurrection against the government of the United States of
America, that should have very serious criminal consequences to it.
Otherwise if there is no consequences, what are they gonna do?
Next time let's run the fake elector plan, Green Bay sweep and that'll work because
apparently nobody is ever gonna hold you accountable, why not try and coup.
If you lose an election, just bring in the fake electors.
>> They stop from robbing the bank but let us kinda walk away,
let's try it next week.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah, and that's one of the things that's really terrifying about this cuz
the steak electric plan, especially if you look at the way that they're trying to
intensify their gerrymandering right now with the whole redistricting situation.
There's a lot of states where state legislatures,
you have Republican state legislatures and Democratic governors, right?
Because of the Jerry Mandarin that exists in those states.
And so it's a really really big problem where Republicans are incredibly
overrepresented in state legislatures across the country.
My concern with this lawsuit is that it ends up the way a lot of lawsuits happened
during the Trump administration because there's so
many right wingers that are stuffed into the courts thanks to Mitch McConnell.
And that's basically where the judge might say, yeah, this definitely happened and
this is definitely was a terrible thing but you don't have standing so
you're not the person that can bring this lawsuit.
I mean, you can ask who does have standing and then obviously you'll get silence but
that's one of those things that I guess I'm a little concerned of in this regard?
Because the unfortunate reality is there're a lot of people in the judiciary
across the country who are sympathetic to the people who are trying to do the coup.
There're a lot of people in Congress who are sympathetic to the people trying to
do the coup.
And so with that reality, this sort of false legitimacy that these
people are sort of depending on in order to planning their future schemes,
unfortunately isn't being challenged because once again,
the Democrats are playing the same game.
They don't wanna paint any Republicans as being illegitimate in any way shape or
form because then they're like, the traditions, the propriety.
And so I guess that kind of is my fear throughout all of this,
that the legitimacy they're granted by the circle that
they're in will prevent them from any consequence.