I do not know if you have gone into the question of measurement.
The whole of the West,
the whole technological world of the West,
which you are copying here,
is based on measurement.
If there was no measurement there would be no technology.
And the Greeks, the ancient Greeks, were concerned with measurement,
and they exploded: their philosophy and their discoveries,
mathematics and so on, exploded over the West.
India said, the ancient people
– if I have been told correctly,
because the speaker doesn't read all these books, thank God.
So he is not burdened with knowledge, with tradition.
He can look at things as they are –
India said that measurement is illusion.
You cannot measure
– the speaker is saying this –
you cannot measure the universe,
you cannot measure with words or thought the immeasurable,
or that which is beyond all time.
To understand the enormity of it,
the grandeur, the beauty,
the strength and the immense vitality
of a brain that is utterly free,
it has got tremendous energy,
as in the technological world those who are inventing,
searching, asking, exploring,
they have immense energy there.
But when the brain is free of the self, the 'me',
which is essentially the wastage of energy,
self-centred activity,
when there is freedom from that,
the brain has got immense, incalculable energy,
and there must be that energy.
Not put together by thought,
not through various forms of
awakening what you call centres in your brain,
and Kundalini and all that kind of stuff.
The speaker knows something about all that.
He disregards it totally.
Whereas if there is freedom from conflict,
and inwardly there is great silence,
and meditation is that.
Not contrived, manipulated,
but silence
which is not put together by thought.
Silence implies space.
The brain must have space,
but it has no space when thought is operating,
because thought is limited, as all knowledge is limited.
So there must be absolute silence and space,
which can only take place when there is no measurement,
no becoming.
And when there is that silence,
not the silence between two noises,
not the silence or peace between two wars, two conflicts,
silence is something totally unrelated to noise,
and when there is that silence
then there is that which is sacred,
which is not measurable by word.
This is meditation and this is religion,
which has total relationship with our daily life.