so joining me now is pete buda judge
biden campaign surrogate and former
mayor of south bend indiana good to have
you
uh with us this evening you know we we
talked at the beginning of the show
mayor pete about the schedule obviously
you couldn't have
more different schedules the president
is in a different state every three
hours
uh and joe biden was in delaware we've
talked about this before you and i
um you know is that the way to do this
in the home
pretty sure he was getting pretty sure
he was in georgia yesterday he was in
delaware where he
was voting i think he's coming to
florida soon and obviously his strategy
is working given uh
that the biden heroes campaign is
pulling ahead now we're also not taking
anything for granted
which is why you're going to continue to
see not just joe biden and kamala harris
but folks like me
out there pounding the ground because we
want to make sure that we get out every
vote
so just just to be clear the trump has
made trump campaign has made eight
stops since sunday today is wednesday
the biden campaign stops have been two
and as you say he had is going to be
back on the road tomorrow
and you know as you say this is a very
competitive race so it may turn out that
less is more in this race we'll see
but it's clearly something that all the
strategists will be examining
um with regard to the visits from uh
donald trump are really helping him
though right like uh i look at omaha
freezing in the cold which is a great
metaphor for how he's treated his
supporters more generally
across the country and in arizona uh he
got a bunch of people
uh in a rally that has the potential to
be a spreader event which kind of
symbolizes his inability to lead us out
we've heard that
yeah it's fine
and like i said we'll see whose strategy
turns out to be the right one it may be
that in this environment it's better to
to do less and stay home
more um so we'll see with regard to
uh the issue on fracking this is
something that
i think really was the the biggest
takeaway perhaps from the final debate
this issue of transitioning away from
oil
as a country are you concerned that that
is
what is causing some of the tightening
that we're seeing in some of these rust
belt states
i think one of the reasons why we're
seeing him continue to
have very strong support especially in
the midwest
where i come from but really in a lot of
states that
normally democrats can't even compete in
is that he understands that
climate change is real and he's put
forward a way to deal with it that
supports workers in the energy industry
through this transition
uh look nobody my age or younger and i
suspect maybe
most americans period no one really
thinks that we're going to have the
exact same energy profile
in 2050 that we do in 2020. now
you can either pretend that's not a
reality just like the president wants to
pretend the pandemic is not a reality
or you can get the american people and
the american economy ready for it
by ensuring that workers who are well
you know i mean i would just point out
one
thing you will continue to be able to do
it yeah
i mean we have gone through a period
where fracking has allowed this country
to become
energy independent from the middle east
that's a tremendous
dynamic change in geopolitical in the
geopolitical
environment in the world don't you think
that that was a good change
yeah and that's one of the reasons why
you know joe biden defeated some
democrats who were further to his left
who called for an outright ban on
fracking which he opposes
i think his position is one that really
resonates with the american people
who understand that in the long run
we're going to need to continue
transitioning to more renewable
energy which is obviously not going to
happen when the sitting president united
states says climate
change is a hoax and that windmills kill
birds and at the same time
he also has expressed support for that
to happen in a way that doesn't mean a
ban on fracking you know if the
democratic party wanted to choose a
candidate
who was for an outright total immediate
ban then they would have chosen somebody
else
well it was just his own words that
confused people i think but it's an
evolving position
thank you very much people to judge good
to have you with us tonight as always
thanks for coming by