I have to admit, when it just came up on the screen,
I almost teared up.
And I was like, no, you have makeup on.
Don't do it.
Don't do it because no one's going to bring you any tissue.
Listen, I'm so excited for you, America's next drag superstar.
[cheers, applause]
Congratulations, Miss Sasha Colby.
Now, tell me.
You're in your winning era.
Definitely.
And earlier, I was at the Sasha Colby meet and greet.
Period.
And if you weren't watching the show and don't catch that,
you need to get your life together.
How does it feel?
Oh, my goodness.
It's two weeks since I won.
And it's, like, still integrating in me.
Like, I haven't realized that I actually won the big one.
Like, I caught the biggest fish that you could.
And--
DULCE SLOAN: It hasn't clicked yet.
Yeah, no. Like, it'll be random.
I'll be on a plane.
I'll be like, oh, I did it.
Like, I won the whole thing.
[laughs]
That's crazy.
It's crazy.
Listen, it's like I was-- someone asked me yesterday,
like, so how does it feel to be hosting The Daily Show?
And it didn't click for me until about 4:00 PM yesterday.
Because I've been, like, moving.
And I was, like-- - The time delay.
The time delay.
And I was like, oh, shit.
I'm hosting The Daily Show.
So I know exactly how you feel.
But when I got here, I was like, they're
asking me all these questions. I'm like, oh, shit.
I'm hosting today.
Oh, I'm supposed to know the answers.
I'm supposed to know the answers to these questions.
So it's like, listen.
Now, I know the running joke we told y'all was the Sasha
Colby meet and greet.
Now, what's it like competing as a queen
who was already legendary before she got on the show?
Because you are a legend.
And you have to appreciate her as a legend.
Goddess sees goddess.
Greatness sees greatness.
Blessings see blessings.
Absolutely.
So tell the children what it was
like to be legendary and then be out here with the children.
Well, I mean, I am Mother.
DULCE SLOAN: True.
So I deal with a lot of kids.
DULCE SLOAN: Right.
A lot of kids come in and out of the way.
But I must say, the group of girls,
the group of drag performers that we were
with that I got to be so blessed to compete
with were such amazing girls.
Literally the best cast I could ever have dreamt to be with.
But legend.
They all knew, you know.
That's why they all stood up for the meet and greet.
Like, listen.
Because I remember when you walked in the room,
I don't know if you've ever seen shock and awe before.
But I'm talking about face cracked, jaws drop.
I literally saw somebody go--
And I think you can hear Anetra
go, should we all go home now?
Do we all go home now?
Because you walked in the room, and it's like,
should we even try?
I'm glad the delusion was hitting hard,
and they did try.
I mean-- [laughing]
I want them good next to me, you know?
I want to beat the best.
I can respect that because Anetra
was not playing when it came to the lip sync, just Free Willy.
No, ma'am.
If you did not see the Free Willy moment because Anetra
was not playing with anybody.
That's why the whole season, I was just, like,
please, please, please put Sasha and Anetra together.
Television is not ready.
They have to compete together.
Yes.
I mean, after that Lollaparuza that did.
I mean, that was like a final two number right there.
DULCE SLOAN: It had to happen.
Yeah.
It had to happen because the drag delusion was real.
I mean, it's real.
We all suffered from it a little, some
more so than others.
Mother, this.
This on the-- you had to-- like, now y'all know for real,
like, I've watched the show.
I was a judge on RuPaul's Drag Race last season,
like two seasons--
And I was like, it has been my dream forever
to be a judge on that show.
So I'm waiting.
Listen, they're going to put you on All Stars.
They're going to.
All Stars, all winners.
All winners.
[cheers, applause]
Now, because you are legendary, because you are mother,
we need to know about the journey.
So I do want to note that you're
the first Hawaiian queen to take the crown.
Yes.
Actually, I think I'm the first Hawaiian queen to compete.
- Oh, that's true. - Actually made this show.
Yeah. - The first one?
There's been other Polynesian girls,
but I'm the first representing Hawaii.
Praise God.
So how has your Hawaiian heritage
shaped you as a trans woman?
Ooh.
Well, I think being any Indigenous culture,
there is the third sex.
There is this level of non-binary
that was always known and spoken about before, you know.
DULCE SLOAN: Colonization.
Christianity.
All that.
Love you, Christians.
Love you, too.
Love yourselves.
Anyway.
Now, that's the real thing.
That's the real thing.
How are you going to love anybody else?
Can you get an amen?
I mean, read the word. That's not the point.
Y'all gonna be so mad at me. That's not the point.
- Anyhoo, tangents. - Truly.
Tangents, tangentials.
What was the question?
Um, how is--
we both got distracted because you are so pretty,
and this jacket is shiny.
And I like shiny things.
I was asking you how has your Hawaiian heritage
shaped you as a trans woman?
Well, like I was saying before I interrupted myself,
in any Indigenous culture, there was space
for trans and non-binary folk.
And they were integral parts of our society
in every Indigenous culture you can find.
So my transness is in my blood.
It's in my DNA.
It's what has been going on since before any man-made
religion, any of these standards
that we hold ourselves to, any male, woman, all of that.
That's just a way to oppress, a way to keep in line,
a way to segregate everybody.
And that's why I feel it's so important to be really
into your culture, to figure out your culture
because we are always programmed to believe what
our parents need us to believe instead of what
is actually going through our veins
in our DNA and our blood.
Right.
And then what the society at large
wants you to believe because if we go by mainstream society,
then none of us would be able to dance.
No, ma'am.
I definitely wouldn't have been able to show my tits
on national television.
And we all needed that.
I mean--
We all needed that.
Real tea.
Like, I was like, everyone saw a great competition
in Sasha Colby.
But all my friends were like, they didn't
even see Sasha Colby yet.
Naked, drunk at brunch, you know?
Rolling around half naked.
I think you showed us so much.
I think only doctors would need to see any more of you.
Not a cough.
I mean, listen.
If I close my eyes, and they were like, OK,
Sasha Colby is missing.
I'm like, all right, don't you worry.
It might have to identify her by her titties, but I got you.
Two words, I said--
Or, you know, identified by booty.
Hey, listen, because that thing is thangin'.
- Mermaid. - And as someone whose thang--
Mermaid.
--also be thangin', listen.
Thangin' recognize thangin'.
Yes.
[cheers, applause]
Now, as women of color, especially,
we always have to worry about representation.
And I know you want to be an example of a happy trans
person in the media.
Why is that important to you?
Well, all that media has been concerned
with a lot of the time is telling the transition story,
telling the trauma, telling the effect
that it did on the family, but not
showing why we go through all that and how happy,
like being so adamant about making yourself feel
comfortable in your own skin.
That's the whole reason why we do the transition.
It isn't to hurt or harm or traumatize
our families or anyone else.
It is to be our true, happy selves.
And we are missing that a lot.
[cheers, applause]
And I don't want it to get, like, misconstrued
that I want to be a representation of only
I'm a happy trans person.
There are so many happy, well-adjusted,
loving trans people, but you only see us
getting murdered and beaten.
DULCE SLOAN: Yes.
So to be able to normalize the fact that you probably
have come into contact with three or four
trans people every day and not even
know it because we are everywhere,
and we're not going anywhere.
[cheers, applause]
I can definitely understand that because being
a woman of color and a plus size woman of color
in this industry, you spend a lot of time.
It's like, oh, well, your plus size.
You must be unhappy.
And it's like, no.
I'm not.
Also, I'm very--
No, the skinny girls are unhappy.
They hungry.
The skinny girls are hungry.
They are very hungry.
Girl, I was at a diner at 3:00 AM,
and I saw this drunk white girl eating a salad.
And I'm like, that's not what you want.
That's not what anyone wants at 3:00 AM.
You want fries. You are drunk at 3:00 AM.
Why are you eating lettuce?
Eat the fries, girl.
You are in a tracksuit. You're in yoga pants.
It's working.
Eat the fries.
Drunk on the salad?
You finna be sick.
Now, I have to ask this question because we know
we have to ask this question.
Now, you won Drag Race at a time
where drag is being politicized for absolutely no reason.
What do you think they're really trying to do?
Well, I mean, the legislation--
I don't want to be, like, political
and say, like, this--
I mean, you know, the conservatives.
DULCE SLOAN: We can talk about the government
because they're out here attacking a donkey.
Right?
Yeah.
It's always about these white men kind of trying
to control people's bodies.
So they were doing-- controlling
women's reproductive rights, controlling our medicine.
Like, a basic human right of giving
trans people and even, like, anyone good health care.
So it's always about controlling.
And I always noticed that these guys,
they're not really killing a lot of trans men.
There's a lot of trans women being murdered.
That's because these men objectify trans women as much
as they objectify cis women.
DULCE SLOAN: Yes.
So once they objectify you, and you're living your truth,
they get so mad because they're one,
jealous that they're not living their truth.
DULCE SLOAN: Yes.
And two because it makes them question why do I like this?
Like, but why do you have to question that?
Why does that even have to be a thing, you know?
So for all of them, just--
I think they just want to be in drag.
Or they probably went in drag, and then they looked awful.
Santos.
[;laughs]
Listen, you hop in drag.
You find out you're a booger, and you--
Bitter. Bitter booger.
DULCE SLOAN: Bitter booger. - Honey.
DULCE SLOAN: And you're like, you know what?
Ban them all.
This Freetress wig might not be for me.
She couldn't find a mother.
- She couldn't find a mother. - She couldn't find them.
They said-- No.
Lost cause.
Now--
Call CPS.
Oh, my goodness.
Nothing like calling CPS on a 45-year-old man.
Like, not on his children, sir. On you.
You need adult supervision. - Uh-huh.
This is true.
So with all these anti-drag bills that
they're starting to pass places, has that
affected where you can work?
Yes.
I'm a little nervous to go to Tennessee,
and I do have a booking there in, like, a month or so.
You could be committing crime.
I mean, technically, walking--
like, setting foot down there, I'm breaking
the law for some reason.
It's insane.
Even when you're in girl drag?
Well, like, so if you are--
I'm not too sure exactly.
But I've heard from my queen friends,
like Aura-- she lives in Tennessee.
Like, you can get in drag at the venue.
But to be out, like, walking from your car to the venue,
if you're in drag, you're breaking the law.
So someone like me who doesn't--
this is what it's made for.
I can't get out of drag.
I'm trans woman. DULCE SLOAN: You're a woman.
I'm going to be breaking the law,
and that's what they want.
Oh, because they're trying to--
It's a roundabout way to get trans people controlled.
So they're trying to say you're in drag,
when you're really just be wearing a woman's--
The legislation, I believe the wording is if you're
in an article of clothing that is not your assigned birth
article of clothing, that's how they can roundabout
say that drag is illegal.
And then the real thing is being trans is illegal.
Oh, that I didn't--
Y'all didn't know that? Girl!
They live in New York. They think they free.
I know. We live in a--
we live in a good left bubble.
Listen, I've had a lot of people try to con me
and tell me that New York wasn't racist.
Go outside.
Anyway.
Like y'all know where all the Dominicans are?
OK, that's not racist?
Anyway.
If you know where every part of a group is, it's racist.
I shouldn't be able to roll, oh, I
go across that street, that's where they at.
But you know what?
That's not what I'm talking about.
We talking about Sasha Colby right now.
My goodness.
This is a segment of tangents.
I mean, listen, I am tangential.
I'm a tangerine.
I'm tangential.
Oh, they mess around and taught me vocabulary.
Now, all right.
Now we have talked about all of the political things.
Yes.
We have talked about the experiences.
But what I do have is one final question for you, Mother.
If I was in the family, what would my drag name be?
Oh.
I mean, Dulce is already a sickening drag name.
I hear you.
And Dulce Colby sounds really nice.
I'm a Colby?
I just gave birth again.
[screams]
So somebody clean up this water you broke, honey.
Listen, I'm the water.
I'm the water done broke.
Listen, somebody get this placenta wrapped up.
I'm ready.
Colby, baby.
Sasha Colby, everybody.